religions in schools

United States
August 25, 2009 8:32am CST
Ok, I have got to ask this because my wife asked me if I had asked yesterday the new teacher's if there were any JW's in the class with the kid's. Honestly I didn't ask. So I had to ask why it was so important to her. She told me that last year her kid's couldn't celebrate Christmas, or even Easter in there class because there was 1 or 2 kid's that were JW's. I have honestly never heard of such a thing. But the kid's started telling me that they couldn't do it because it's against those people religion. I am sorry but that is going way to far. Why make other people's kid's pay the price of missing out on something like an Easter egg hunt because their kid's are from a different church and dont believe in Easter. Christmas could not be celebrated, because they don't believe in it. In fact they couldnt even color picture's of christmas tree's in Grade K because of this. What are your opinion's on this? Its a public school so all kid's should be treated the same. I feel as though if they don't want there kid's celebrating such thing''s, send them off to a church school. What are your opinion's? How would you feel if out of 70 classes 3 or 4 classes had to miss out just because of someone's religion and it was your kid's classes?
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@cupkitties (7489)
• United States
26 Aug 09
My opinion is that religion doesn't belong in School PERIOD. That is not why you are there and if you need to learn relgion that is what churches are for. It is the kids who want to do religious like coloring christmas trees that need to go to church school not the other way around. Think about it this way. Isn't there things a christian isn't supposed to be invovled in? What if a child raised from a family who does witch craft attended the school and they decided to let everyone color pentagrams or something? You're lying if you tell me that you would be thrilled about it and wouldn't complain. I bet most of the christians would demand not only that to be not allowed but if any other religion wanted to celebrate their holiday there would be complaint about that too.
• United States
27 Aug 09
They celebrate halloween and to most culture's that is paganism. Yet once again the JW children can not even allow children in there classes to have a halloween party. So that should tell you something, as I said above its not just religious Holiday's. It is even Birthday's for other children. Which has nothing to do with religion other then it being against there own religion.
@Archie0 (4667)
26 Aug 09
When i was a kid i remember my mom use to ask me wheather there are any my caste children if yes then i should be with them only.I really dont understan and accept this thought and readily will go with my mom atleast now because i dont have anything to do with religion and things like that.
• United States
27 Aug 09
I don't think that religion actually even has to do with Holiday's really. When most of us think of Christmas these day's we think of Santa clause and reindeer not baby Christ. So to me that mean's religion went out the door year's ago. When kid's think of easter they think of a bunny not a cross. So there goes the religion again right out the window.
@doryvien (2293)
• United States
26 Aug 09
My son's school is non-sectarian and it accommodates children of different religions. However being a country that is largely Catholic, most if not all the christian practices and celebrations are held there, that includes Christmas and Easter. Kids who do not have the same belief are allowed not to participate, or even skip school - it's their prerogative. I wouldn't want my kids to miss special occasions just because a few in the class are not allowed by their religion to have them.
• United States
27 Aug 09
That is exactly how my wife and I both feel. That if parent's don't want the kid's to be involved dont send them that day, or maybe they can find a different activity for them to do in the library or something like that.
@KrauseHome (36750)
• United States
26 Aug 09
Personally I would think anymore it is Religion period and anything to do with Jesus they are not wanting in their schools more than because there are some JW's in there. I think personally that too many people are really beginning to miss the boat now and concentrate on things and making a Big deal on things instead of really worrying and celebrating things as they are supposed to be. When the Declaration was signed there was Freedom of Speech and Religion and now this is all being lost to other things as well.
• United States
26 Aug 09
I was telling my wife that I was begining to feel as though there was no right's left at all. But it's true we all use to be able to have that freedom and now it's like we don't. Lately it seem's to be worse then it use to be.
@coolcat123 (4391)
• India
25 Aug 09
being from a different religion , i celebrate and thus enjoy all the religions and its festivals. Especially christmas, where we make a christmas tree , buy many gifts and distribute it among kids etc. and the whole thing is admired and seen by my neighbours. Some of them do the back biting part also saying that belonging from a different religion and culture, one must not follow or do other relion's practices.
• United States
26 Aug 09
Oh I know, we try and put up some thing's for different holiday's even if we ourselves dont celebrate it. I believe that it's always best to learn a bit about different culture's and different religion's, even if this mean's there Holiday's. We even tried Kwanza one year for some people that we knew. It may not be our religion or our Holiday but we had friend's that celebrated it so we joined in just to learn about it. You will never learn unless if you try.
@Ravenladyj (22936)
• United States
25 Aug 09
Here at the schools in my area the students DO NOT celebrate Easter, Xmas etc..the school isnt decorated or anythig of the sort....Its not allowed...reason being from what I understand is because of the whole not allowing religion etc in the schools AND because there are so many different religions among the student (and staff for that matter) body... If I remember correctly, Halloween also isnt celebrated at the schools in my area
• United States
25 Aug 09
Around here in the elementary school's they celebrate it. I just think it's wrong to make other children pay for what one religion feel's is right. Most of us have been brought up that even though we don't believe in what someone else does it's not our place to judge them. By doing such a thing it's like one religion is saying no one can celebrate anything because we don't believe in it. To me that is just wrong.
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@Pose123 (21662)
• Canada
25 Aug 09
Hi youngpatrol, I find this difficult to understand. There is no reason not to celebrate the holidays of all religions and if some parents want their children to opt out of these things than they can. JW's are not the only Christian group that don't celebrate Christmas but they are probably the best known. Religion doesn't belong in schools except to teach children to be tolerant of all faiths. Blessings.
• United States
25 Aug 09
Some of our friend's are Jewish. Even though they dont celebrate Christmas, there kid's are allowed to celebrate it along with other's at school. But when someone say's a whole class can not celebrate because of their belief's to me that is just wrong. I think if they don't want their kid's around other's that do celebrate such thing's then they should at least keep them home when there will be a special activity. That way other kid's wont be left out. It's mean to the other children, I don't believe that God would agree with someone being mean to a child just to make themselve's happy.
@zoey7879 (3104)
• United States
25 Aug 09
I'll assume youngpatrol that you're either older than myself, my age, or not much younger. This kind of thing is common practice now. Gotta love political correctness. I mean, it's great that people have their personal beliefs and that, but if they don't want their children to participate in activities that are going on, there are SO many other things that they can do than cry about it and be the "bad apple (The parents not the children) that ruin it for everyone" (sorry to those who that might offend, I just couldn't think of any other way to word it). Here, certain grades in the elementary school couldn't celebrate Halloween in anyway, and the ones that could weren't allowed face paint or makeup. If parents of these beliefs don't want their children to participate... They can keep their kids home those days, they can send them to a private school, or they can get off their @$$e$ and explain to their children why it is that they have to be left out. I think that this behavior teaches INTOLERANCE. I practice different religious and spiritual beliefs as my child, but I don't make her miss out on ANY of it, nor do I force the beliefs of either upon her. I let her make her own choices about her spirituality, as long as it's not going to harm her in the long run. Christmas holidays are now "Winter breaks". The friggin holiday is CHRISTMAS, not WINTER! Oh, it doesn't stop at a religious standpoint either. Where I live it's gone racial. Columbus Day is no longer a holiday at the school.. Nor is Martin Luther King Day. But.. this school spends thousands a year teaching about and celebrating Cinco de Mayo. Why? Because 60% of the school's population are immigrants from Mexico. I'm not in a big city, I'm in a town with 6,200 people and in the surrounding 7 or 8 counties, we're the only school with this practice. Why? Because this culture is here. I'm sorry but this is in America - to hell with the American holidays and Christian and Pagan holidays, but we're going to celebrate Cinco de Mayo? Bullocks. Since my daughter's school is no longer allowed to honor certain federal holidays, the school has "made up days" with various excuses as to why to cancel class, my favorite being "Deer Day"... The first day of deer season, or just random days where the parents and students are told no explanation. PC... Politcally Correct. PC... Politcal conundrum. PC... Polically corrupt.
• United States
25 Aug 09
I have to say that our local school's have not gone that far yet. They in fact celebrate a whole month just for African American's. In fact they teach the kid's all that whole month about all the African American's in history that have been somebody. They had a science fair last year that revolved around African American scientist's. MLK day is a big thing around here. My wife got ticked last year and said why don't they teach the kid's about Native American history. Since that is what made the US what it is. But no, instead it's all about African American's. Cinco de Mayo they don't even think about. Yet they can take 3 day's off for MLK day yet, they have school on President's day?? What's up with that. I love how they change it from Christmas vacation to Winter vacation. Back when we were kid's they had a tree in the school. These day's that is not allowed. Because it may be against someone's religion. They can't color picture's of the easter bunny and hang them up in the school, because it's against someone's religion.