can a relationship survive domestic violence and be healthy?

United States
September 7, 2009 9:13pm CST
My 25 year old daughter was beat up by her boyfirend of 4 years (they also have a 2 year old and she has a 6 year old form a pervious relationship) It was the fisrt time he put his hands on her and she called the ploice, and then family. he stole her truck and creidt card and was arrested the next day. mean while she got a new cell phone (and new number) a restraing oder from the courts and is packing to move to a new apartment to put as much distance between them as possibable. she is DONE. while talking to a freind of mine she said maybe he could get councing and they could work it out. I say once a man puts his hands on a woman in anger and hits her, it is only down hill from there. I know first hand most women don't get out the fist time it happenes. But My daugher remembers my situation form my ex husband years ago and said no way will she wait for the second time. I am proud of her for taking her life back. so what do you think? have you ever been in a violent relationshiop? did you get out the first time? did the violence stop? does it ever? can two people get past and and be healthy? not have the batterer be controling and the victim be submissive? I cannot see it. anyone?
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21 responses
• United States
8 Sep 09
No because once the trust and respect have been broken there will always be a part that wonders will it happen again and on the other side there is always the thought well I'll do it just this one more time. I grew up in a bad area and saw this on a daily basis it will not get better.
• United States
11 Sep 09
I know I not only coulnt trust my ex I had a hard time trusting anyone for a long time. IT is sad. I think my daugher will be fine, once she gets some counseling and time to get settled in her new apartment.
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• United States
11 Sep 09
time is the only real cure that and a good man to show her how it should be, that worked for me.
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@lazeebee (5461)
• Malaysia
9 Sep 09
Hi Doulaworks, it's terrible to be caught in an abusive relationship; I've a girlfriend who was caught in one, and didn't seem to get out of it. Every time she made an effort to run away, her abusive partner would someone find her, and pleaded with her for forgiveness and all that. So back she goes to him, and the whole cycle starts. I think once a man lifts his hand on you, it's bound to happen again. I can't take this - would most probably leave him! I don't think whatever love I feel, can tolerate knocks and bruises!
• United States
11 Sep 09
I agree that love cant take the physical stuff, much less the emotional stuff. they cycle is a deceptive one, and abusers are expert manipulators. thanks for your response.
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• Canada
11 Sep 09
I think once that kind of thing happens, the relationship is over. Why is it worth saving, because of a child? I don't think so!! The mother and the child need to be as far away from that beast, as they can get. There is no point in staying with someone who has beat someone else, because the abuser may abuse again.
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• United States
11 Sep 09
that is all so true, thanks for your response! It is a harsh realityt that abusers only get worse most often.
@emmanola (482)
8 Sep 09
I'm a man and I'm totally against any violence of any sort especially violence against women. I sympathise with you for the abuse you and your daughter have suffered in the hands of violent men. I, however, want to look at the issue differently. Our society is changing fast and we by our actions or otherwise are catalysing the bad transition. Where is the joy and fulfilment of marriage that used to be there? Are husbands loving their wives as they should? Are the women as submissive as before? These are few questions among many each of us need to answer sincerely. Forgive me but I am for marriage any day. I don't feel co-habitation in any guise is God's ordained relationship between a man and a woman. Where there is no marriage relationship the love is suspect and no one should expect total commitment. I'm not here to judge you, your daughter or any other persons. What I'm saying is, it's high time each of us re-consider his/her approach to the issue of the foundation of true relationship cemented by marriage. God blessings.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
8 Sep 09
Marriage is actually harder in an abusive situation. These guys know they are given to such behavior. After leaving my first husband, I lived with my 2nd husband for 2 years before getting married. Getting married was more important to him that it was me. In fact...he really pushed it. I wanted to be sure. During that time, he was sweet and not once lifted a finger to hurt me. It was not until I had our daughter that the abuse kicked in. He did admit that he felt at that point that he had me. He did for a while. I was out of work at that point....another thing he insisted on...me giving up my job to be home with our daughter. I did day care and other work from home. Then as I was getting ready to leave with the help of my father, found myself pregnant again. The birthcontrol that I'd just gotten from the pharmacy was outdated by years. I did get out but this prolonged it.
• United States
8 Sep 09
I agree that marriage is best. it changes things for the better that jsut cannot be in a non marrage relationship. How ever I was married to a man who was abussive and it took me two years to get out because we had a son and I had to fight leagally to end the marriage and get custody of my son. I moved twice and he found me and the law refused to make him leave as we were still leagaally married. so marriage could be a hinderance in an abussive situation. Thanks for you thought. I agree marriage is prefered, with a courtship that is sufficient to really be sure, exspecially BEFORE one has children. call it old fashoned, but there are too many people rushing into marriage with the idea that if it dosent work out, they can always get divorced. sad. very sad. Thanks again for your kind words.
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@celticeagle (159058)
• Boise, Idaho
8 Sep 09
IF both people work at healing and are upfront about expectations and realistic in their feelings. I think love is important here too. If the aggressor is seeking help and has apologized and is truly trying on a day to day basis then I think it could work out. I have never been in a violent relationship. FOR LONG. I think my daughter's father could have been violent but I left after the first time so I don't know. If both parties works at it it may be able to be a positive outcome. Rare but I think it could happen.
@celticeagle (159058)
• Boise, Idaho
8 Sep 09
You are totally right BUT if the aggressor wants to work at it and shows himself to do so then with love and respect it COULD work. There is always both sides to look at it.
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• United States
8 Sep 09
thanks for your views on this. it is a hard one. less than one percent of abusers get help and fewer really change thier abusive ways. I know first hand that real love isnt supose to hurt or be fearful.
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@rg0205 (2636)
• Hong Kong
8 Sep 09
First of all, I commend your daughter for taking the necessary steps to protect herself and her children. I would say that, whether a relationship with domestic violence can survive and be healthy depends on the two people in it, whether both are willing to work towards a better relationship. One has to forgive but both have to seek counseling. Unfortunately, I must say this, men who hit their women once are more inclined to do it again. Why? Because it is that easy. They have major issues and they need to fix themselves before getting into a relationship again. I do not know anyone who has been beaten up by their spouse once and then the violence stopped. It just continued until the "victim" just packed up and left. I would've done the same thing as your daughter because if the man could abuse her, the mother of his children, then it isn't too far fetched to say that he could abuse their kids, too.
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• United States
10 Sep 09
IT is sad. my 6 year old grand son told my husband this weekend hid daddy deserved to be in jail for hitting his mom. very sad the kids are affected too. we are getting an appointment for him to get therapy too. thanks for your insite and kind words
@rg0205 (2636)
• Hong Kong
10 Sep 09
I wish you all the best. Blessings to you and your family.
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• India
8 Sep 09
i appreciate ur daughter's move but women in my country are not that fortunate enough. being into human rights i have come across many a researches in my country showing women here behave as if they have no choice but to act submissive and wait for things to change. the researches say that it do change but only when the husbands get old enough . the poor wives spend their whole life getting spanked or waiting for the miracle to happen i truely pity their fate,but places where the society is more supportive there is no reason for women to stand something like that.
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• United States
10 Sep 09
that is sad to hear. I never thought of other countires it maynot be possibable to get out. I will pray for those who are battered around the world. so unfair that poepl cannot feel safe in thier own home. thanks for you response
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
8 Sep 09
I think your daughter was more than likely right in leaving. I'm sure that some relationships can survive with much councelling for both parties. I was in 2 abusive marriages. The first was mild compared to the 2nd which was a nitemare. I got out and I got councelling. It was in counceling that I learned so much about domestic violence and how it works. It esculates as a rule and so does the victims tolerance of it. It lowers the victims esteem until they start believing that it is their fault....they deserve the beatings. I had to learn to stop blaming myself....stop blaming him & try to get to the root of why I put up with what most women would run from. Without help, most women, even if they leave the abuser will move on to someone else who will abuse them even worse. The adrenelin that is released with each confrontation is more frequent than is normal and can cause one to become addicted to ones own adrenelin. I recovered and became stronger. I was told that it was because that I was not abused as a child which most of the women who put up with it were. I did have low esteem....mom was more than a tad bit critical and maybe that bordered on mental abuse...don't know but my dad was just the opposite so it balanced out. I lucked out. If it was my daughter, I'd be so relieved that she got out right away. You raised her right.
• United States
11 Sep 09
thanks, for your kind words. I really am proud of her for getting out so fast and making all the right moves. It is trying at best. but healing will happen for her and the kids. thanks for the response
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
8 Sep 09
Hi doula! Nice to see you again! I had been thinking about you just recently and wondering how you and your lovely family were doing. I think that what your daughter is doing is definitely the right thing to do! I don't think that once a man puts his hands on a woman that he can ever be trusted again! It is told by all the domestic violence counselors that once it happens it will happen again and again and each time it will get worse and it could end up in the victim being killed! I have been in a violent relationship so I do know that getting out right away is the most important step! Some woman don't believe this and end up going back to the batterer and end up in constant fear for their life! So your daughter made the right decison to get out, get a restraining order and get as far away from this guy as she possibly can and never have anything to do with him again!
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• United States
8 Sep 09
Hi ya Opal, it is gret to hear from you again too. I think that her doing all she can to be safe is the best thing, I know she is still scared of him. she check everyday several times to make sure he is still in jail. they saddest part is, the police officer said he is facing more time for stealing her car then beating her! sad.
@cupkitties (7421)
• United States
8 Sep 09
I did not get out of my abusive relationship the first time. I hate to say but its true. I was also very young and not thinking clearly. Does the violence stop? Maybe. I don't know. I remember a few years ago seeing about a man who used to abuse his wife and then they went to counseling and now he doesn't do it anymore. Thing is contrary to popular belief abuse is not always about some temper problem. Most cases have to do with having power and control over someone which is why the abuser will usually do what they can to cover their backs like lie and try to say that injuries to their victim were self inflicted. The best thing to do is get out and if you know someone in this situation, be there for them because most abusers will have them thinking that no one cares about them.
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• United States
11 Sep 09
oh for sure it is about power and control. it is alos about their own insucurity too. other wise they would have no reason to bully someone else. thanks for your comments.
@uicbear (1900)
• United States
8 Sep 09
I am glad your daughter is out of there. Many times physical violence comes after verbal or emotional abuse, and once the abuse become physical it tends to happen more and more often. I just wouldn't be around, and I wouldn't want especially to have my children around someone with that kind of temper. I myself have never been involved in that type of relationship, and your daughter is strong and smart not to try and give him a way back.
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• United States
11 Sep 09
I agree, more and more comes out as t ime passes, he was definatly controlling, and very passive agressive with her and harsh with the kids. I saw through him a l;ong time ago, I just hate that it came to this. he is a gonner for sure.
@russso (1693)
• Philippines
8 Sep 09
Violence is a serious thing. If he has done it once, he can certainly do it again. I have not been in a violent relationship but if I ever I get into one, I'll be immediately out of it. It's not right to let other people hurt us, even if they say they love us, they do not have the right to do so -- no one does.
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• United States
10 Sep 09
thanks for your comment, I agree that it is serious and it is likley to happen over and over as long as the victim stays.
• United States
8 Sep 09
Personally, the first time I think would be a leaving issue for me. I didn't move countries and give up my whole life for my husband to be bashed, and that would be a part of it - that to do what I have done, it has to be worth it, and that would show he wasn't (I should say I'm talking in theory here, not because I think dear hubby would ever do such a thing!) However, I DO know a couple like that who seem to have moved on and have a better life now. I really hope what I see is true and she hasn't just learned to hide it better though. Good luck to your daughter, I hope things get better for her.
• United States
10 Sep 09
good to hear you are ina healthy relationship. I agree that it may be possiabable for a few to move on from it, but few ever do. it would take a lot of therapy to work though.
@iceydon (342)
• Philippines
8 Sep 09
Violence could never make a relationship survive and be healthy.It will always be repeated for sometime knowing that it had been done at the first time. They could exist but up only to the threshold allowable by the victim. But who am I to judge what love can truelly make for the abusive and submissive to change for the best.
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• United States
10 Sep 09
that seems to be the opinion we most all here have shared. If the victim gets out the fisrt time it is more likley, the abuser moves on to someone else who they can control. IF the victim stays and it happenes again, they may have a harder time leaving.
@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
8 Sep 09
I am so lucky that I have never had violence in my life but I have seen a lot.. I have seen some women who love someone so much they put up with anything. But I think with violence like unfaithfulness there is something lost in the relationship, the innocence maybe I don't know...but i really think it all depends on the strength of the love of the woman that makes or breaks the relationship.
• United States
8 Sep 09
thanks for your response, I am gald you never expierenced this. it leaves emotional scars that last a life time
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Sep 09
I suppose that if the abuser really wanted to change and got counseling and made every effort, the relationship might survive. But why would anybody who has been abused want to take that chance?
• United States
11 Sep 09
that is my point as well, why take the chance, a tiger never changes his stripe, my granma used to say. Thanks for you repsonse
@zoey7879 (3092)
• United States
8 Sep 09
Very very very few and far between survive this type of situation because 99% of the time, the abusive person in the relationship does not learn to, and cannot, change.
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• United States
8 Sep 09
so very true, they often feel they have no porblem and the other person deserved it.... sad, very sad. thanks for your response
• United States
8 Sep 09
I completely agree with you. A man should never put his hands on a woman. Once that happens, it is downhill. Just because he did it once, does not mean he will never do it again. But frankly, one time is too much. You should be very proud of your daughter because she is clearly doing the right thing. Good for her.
• United States
11 Sep 09
thanks for your response and kind words. I am very proud of her.
@misisbau (317)
• Philippines
8 Sep 09
Your daughter is wise to not wait for the second time. Violence is never the answer.
• United States
10 Sep 09
thanks for your comment, I am proud that she left and is staying out. it took courage to do that. many women are to scared to get out. She is too scared to stay.
@JLHolley (128)
• Visalia, California
18 Feb 20
I would like to be hopeful, but patterns always repeat themselves. I once thru my significant other in jail for domestic violence and I was surprised he did not hit me for the next year and a half. This was hopeful, however, the abuse started in other ways. Verbal and mental. Making people think I was crazy ect