Do you always understand every discussion you read or see?

@Hatley (163781)
Garden Grove, California
September 25, 2009 2:48pm CST
I came across one discussion I wanted to answer as the poster sounded like he really wanted help but either he or she was using English as his or her second language or the poster simply forgot to put in an extra sentence' that would have explained just what he was trying to' say or ask. The poster started out saying they had just got married then something about two something bad, which to me did not make sense. If you wanted to try to answer this, how would you do it without hurting feelings if the person is indeed struggling with English language? I tried to just say I would love to help if you would just explain a little bit more. I only hope the poster did not feel insulted. I know I could just have gone on to something I understood more clearly, but I really was touched by that particular discussion and did want to help. any ideas?
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
25 Sep 09
Hello my friend Usually what I do is take what ever I can from the discussion and respond to that, or read the responses and respond that way, sometimes it is really hard to understand, but I often figure things out in my own way, and it works out pretty good, I think asking the question was fine, if someone does not understand me I would hope they would ask me to clarify as oppose to making me feel bad Thank you.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
26 Sep 09
I think sometimes we can learn a little bit more from others who respond, especially if the person who started the discussion replies to others in his discussion.
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• United States
26 Sep 09
Hi you all..I will have to agree. That is how I learned how to work this site. I would go and read what others had to say and then put it to work for me. Are you doing okay Garden? I hope so. How you miss kitty how are things going your way? Good I hope. You two keep smiling ...
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
26 Sep 09
Hello u2 This is true, I must admit most of the time when I respond to a discussion I don't read the responses first, although we should I don't because I like to respond from my thoughts not others, but in a situation like this oh yes, reading responses helps alot. Rose, how are you today my friend? smoochesss
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@sunny68 (1327)
• India
25 Sep 09
there are indeed many discussions that i fail to understand or am at loss for a response. sometimes it takes a long time before i come across a discussion to respond to...
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi sunny68 I am coming across that a lot too, and this one for some reason struck a chord in me as the poster seemed to want help about a new marriage yet as I didn't understand all of it I could not help.
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@sunny68 (1327)
• India
26 Sep 09
i understand what you mean. i also come across some members who are desperate for a few dollars. even though i understand, i fail to respond....
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Sep 09
hi I wondered afterwords if I had just wasted my time and if that discussion as it was so short and odd had been deleted. have to look and see
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
30 Sep 09
Yes, Hatley, I've seen a few of those and have been at a loss to understand and one of them is by an American! She must type really fast and she leaves out letters, punctuation and spaces and then uses lots of capitals. They are very hard to understand sometimes so I just bypass those as I think - if you can't take the time to post your discussions properly then I can't be bothered to reply. As for our non English speaking friends, I figure they have done their best and when I check back they have responses from people who understood better than I what they were trying to say. I think if you ask them to explain, they get a bit flustered. I can understand that, as I would too and I would be embarrassed as well.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Oct 09
hi mstickle I tried to find it but either it was way back or it had been deleted,as I w ent back and back some more and did not find it. I wanted to know if someone might have taken a stab at it.
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@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
26 Sep 09
As I see it,If You don't understand a discussion due to it being too incomprehensible,You have the option either to a)ignore the discussion altogether,or b)ask the Person to clarify what they Mean,or c)make the best of a bad Job and try and answer the discussion as is..As it stands there's a load of clear to understand zero response discussions in the no response bin that nobody has picked up on,so it looks like most would stop at option a),never mind go further..so You're a considerate Person to take the interest and go that step further! I'm sure the person would be conscious of their limits in English if that was their problem,but would probably welcome more practise with someone interested in what they had to say!
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
26 Sep 09
So were You able to respond any better with more info on the discussion?
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi ShepherdSpy Yes I was just pained to think someone 'was newlywed and already in pain over something, yet I could not help so asked for a little more explanationg.' I probably should have gone on by.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Sep 09
hi shepherd I am going back now and see if 'he responded and if so maybe I can help some way,even just to be a shoulder to weep on.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
26 Sep 09
Sometimes it is also hard for me to comprehend what the poster is trying to relay in their discussions. I try to interpret the writings in my own understanding and response according to what I understand it to be. Sometimes my interpretation turns out correct and my response get a credit from the poster but no less few become infuriated and tell me sarcastically like 'zandi, you don't know what you are talking about'. Either I got my message put across wrongly or others just refuse to accept my views. What ever it is, we can't please everyone and we are not here to please all. Like me, many are trying hard to make ourselves be understood by all especially the native speakers. Some might translate direct from their mothers' tongue and in the process distort the whole meaning of what they wanted to convey in their posts.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
26 Sep 09
The 3 smiling smileys you put here is enough for me to be in cloud 9 and I wouldn't ask for more but to be fully understood and appreciated for my views.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Sep 09
hi zandi458 I am glad I made your day.cheers.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi zandi you know I wish they would let us give two' best responses as now I wish Ihad not already given' one. you do make such perfect sense. You are right' we cannot please everyone, and we are not here to please everyone. so we all do the best we can.
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
26 Sep 09
Hiya Hatley, nice to see you around in discussions again. For me, I'd go for politeness anytime. I would love to understand what the commentator is trying to say in the discussion and try my best by asking questions first; a few of them before answering; just to be clear of what he/she is asking. I think if someone sees our genuine interest to help answering the discussion, he or she won't get offended definitely.
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
29 Sep 09
It's definitely awesome to have you back as well. I couldn't do being too long away from here too..
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Oct 09
hi zed I am glad we are both back I am so addicted to mylot it is funny.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi zed,oh my its so good to be back, after 11 long months,wow, I am on mylot again. I did hope maybe the poster has responded to my asking him or her for a little more information.
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@riyasam (16556)
• India
26 Sep 09
i think you did the right thing,i would also have done so if i were in your place,i would reply to the discussion asking them to explain,if they were in my friends list otherwise i would just pass by their discussion.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi riyasam thanks for I did hope that I would not' insult this person who probably was not an English speaking person but was in evident pain over something.
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@Shar19 (8231)
• United States
28 Sep 09
I know exactly what you mean. There seem to be a lot of discussions like those that don't make any sense. First I'll do my best to try and figure out what they are trying to ask or say. If I can't figure it out then I'll just skip it.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Sep 09
hi shari19 yes its so irritating as the person really seemed'to want to explain something but he did not really do it.so I might as well have moved on. He sounded in a lot of pain but why not take time to explain clearly what he wanted.
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26 Sep 09
Hi Hatley, I would help as well but you know I have tried to help someone before but they didn't respond back to me but i would love to help as asked them what they meant. Hugs. Tamara
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi tamarafireheart I have to check to see if they did'respond to my asking for more information. I should have done that right'away but life off the mylot sort of intervened too,' Like Doctor's appointments and programs here at Gold Crest too.hugs to you too.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
26 Sep 09
I’ve come across some discussions like that too and it is difficult. Sometimes the discussion starter will comment on my response with something I don’t quite understand and it may be in the form of a question and I am stuck as to how to reply. Best thing to do is to ask for an explanation as tactfully as possible I guess.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi Paula27661 yes some of them are really difficult, and 'I think Tact is the best way to handle it. And I really' did think for awhile on how to word what I asked so it 'would not seem insulting.
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@happy6162 (3001)
• United States
26 Sep 09
When I do not understand a discussion I just leave. I check to list for another discussion that interest me and answer it.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi happy yes that's probably the best way to handle' difficult situations in discussions. I am an old busy body wanting to help everyone and only hoping not to hurt anyone either.
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• Malaysia
26 Sep 09
No, I do not understand all their posts and some responses are really difficult to comment on. Firstly, they are just brief sentences. The substantial issue are missing. Secondly, some just write one sentence and expect me to read their minds. Thirdly, there are statements that are too tangential to make sense of.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi gracefuldove I have come across so many that are just too brief to completely describe what they are asking. ' that was it exactly I felt this poster was trying a mental thing expecting me to reach through the cosmos and just read his or her mind.
• Indonesia
26 Sep 09
Well, to the people whose using non english as a primary language ( like me ), having write your thought is kinda hard. And, if i post something and then the other comment that they can understand it, i will try to make my writing more clearly. Off Course i will never feel insulted because of that, especially if they asking me with a polite line. I will feel honour because usually if people found out that they dont understand the discusion starter mean, their just move the other discusion. So i apreciate their effor to understand more about my request. But i do feel insult if they write it in not Polite line ( more like a mocking line ) like "Please take a kindergarden class before you write in here", or "Hey, alien language is not accepted here", or "What the hell are you talking about? Are you retarded or something?". And many more. Thanks
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
lordcacocao hi you know mylot admins really well clamp down on responders who give you such insulting responses like that, I know I would have hated that had I been in your' shoes. No I wou ld never mock anyone trying to learn English as its one very hard language to learn. So if anyone ever insults you like that again do report them to mylot at once.
@Melbee11 (230)
• United States
26 Sep 09
I try my best to anwser any discussions. I don't care if I didn't get to the point of the person asking, it's just the way I am. Just me at least trying to anwsering it should be enough right? Well I try my best to find my way through. :D
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi Melbee11 I am that way to, I try my best to anwer a discussion, and I think we all try our best to understand and respond. the poster just needed a bit more explanation.
@roniroxas (10560)
• Philippines
26 Sep 09
no hatley. there are some discussion that i dont understand. when it is about high tech gadgets some of that i dont understand, upgrading your PC i dont understand. about some religions i dont understand and i just dont go there. i read it and learn if i can but i dont response. if i ran on a discussion that i dont understand but i think i can help then i would do the same thing that you did. i will ask to explain it a little more so i can understand it and help. thats a good thing to do hatley.... reaching out to people who needs a little advice or a suggestion.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi roniroxas yes I just wanted to reach out and see' if there was anything I could do or say to help this' person who sounded so confused and upset, it stared out I am newlywed, so I figured it was a marital problem but needed more information.
@robert19ph (4577)
• Philippines
26 Sep 09
hello Hatley, not all the time. and if that was the case even i wanted to response to that i choose not to anymore. i might have a wrong interpretation that my answer will not be of help. this way, i can avoid hurting his/her feelings. maybe next time.
• Philippines
27 Sep 09
I think that will work. I do hope you did try posting on that discussion.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Sep 09
hi robert I am going to go back in discussions I have responded to and check if he made any'more comment to my response.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi robert19ph oh I really don't think that the way I worded my response could possibly hurt anyone's feelings as I thought a long time on how to phrase it so it would not be hurtful at all.
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
9 Oct 09
Hi Hatley, Sometimes I wonder if anybody understand ME when I type up a discussion because there's so many parts to my stories! LOL I wouldn't mind if someone were to ask what I meant by this or that because I know I can be very confusing. So why not just be out with it and tell the person that you mean good and all but you don't understand what they're trying to say and that you do want to help. The person should take it to mean a nice thing and act accordingly however, if they don't then to hell with them! lol
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
20 Oct 09
Hey.... don't be sorry. You didn't delete it, mylot a$$ociates did. I had one deleted too just days ago, the one about having a blue star. Gee, don't know what was wrong with it but mylot a$$ociates apparently didn't like it so they deleted it. Such is life, ya know?
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Oct 09
hi catsanddogs You write great discussions. I wonder what on earth 'was wrong with your talking about your blue star? I never saw anything in the rules about that,and others make discussions on their stars and they are still here. odd.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Oct 09
hi catsanddogs as for me I have never had an ounce of trouble reading your discussions,guess because I have had trouble in'my own life too, and I went back to try to find that discussion and I think for whatever reason mylot admins deleted it. sorry about that.
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@rosdimy (3926)
• Malaysia
26 Sep 09
I do not think that I understand every discussion that I read or see. Posters with English as a second language are not the only guilty ones. The first group may have difficulties in expressing themselves. The second group may be convoluted, or beat too much around the bush. At times I am also guilty of not making things clear to the reader. To avoid hard feelings I would use the following phrases or words I my responses to discussions which I have difficulty in understanding. They include "I assume...", "Presumably...", "I presume...", and "As I understand it..."
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi rosdimy yes those are great words to use in' trying to ask the other person to make things a bit more clear. I think I did say, Do I understand 'that you have a problem?
@voldrox (7191)
• India
26 Sep 09
Hi Hatley I understand, sometimes it happens that we want to help someone but we don't know what exactly he/she wants to know, there is problem with there english. . . . they might already be in a stressful situation and we don't want him/her to feel any worse by taking our request the wrong way, these matters are sensitive and needs to be taken care of, just hope the person you politely asked understands that you want to help and not get offended for the language, such discussions are genuine and unfortunately sometimes people are not able to express themselves clearly through english, i only hope they get better at it with time. . . have a nice weekend Hatley!
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi voldrox yes you are right on all counts. My hat is always off to all of you who speak English as a second language as I myself would be so screwed up trying to learn another language. I am just not talented in learning languages.
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@voldrox (7191)
• India
26 Sep 09
Oh Hatley please don't say like that, i know you could learn another language . . .
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Sep 09
hi voldrox,you really think so , it would be sort of 'fun as I have a lot of free time or I would not be on here so long. I so think we all should have at least two languages we are conversant in. thanks for the vote of confidence.
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@deniblue7 (122)
• Indonesia
25 Sep 09
My idea, you just take the positive side, while negative leave, maybe they tried to help with the bad experiences they have experienced. so do not make too much of a problem. and if you want to help them then help them as much as you
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Sep 09
hi deniblue if only the poster had just put in a few' explaining words, it would have allowed me to give a sensible answer, How could I help if I didn't know what' they wanted help with?
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