All you need is love or could it be this simple?

@dawnald (85135)
Shingle Springs, California
December 5, 2009 12:02pm CST
So I'm googling around looking for marriage help and I find this: http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi3100_how.html And I start reading everything that's on this site from start to finish. And what this Dr. Harley person has to say (mostly) resonates with me and feels true. And I've got Richard reading it too and so far he's excited about it. Well to summarize what I'm babbling about here as far as what on this website is striking a nerve (synopsis for Thea): Most people get married because they love the person they are marrying People start getting disenchanted because: - the other person isn't meeting their emotional needs or - the other person is doing things repetitively that bother them - they aren't spending enough quality time together - they don't communicate the problems for fear of hurting the other person, etc. - they disagree on things and go off on their own and do whatever they want How do you fix it? You get the love back by: - doing the things that do meet the other person's emotional needs - not doing the things that bother, annoy, anger, hurt, etc. the other person - communicate openly - spend time together - they both agree on what they're going to be doing or they just don't do it Assuming no abuse and assuming both people are receptive to changing, sounds so simple. I wonder if it can work?
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• India
6 Dec 09
Yes i need love in my simole life....
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
we all do...
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
6 Dec 09
I think it could if both partners were willing to put the effort into it. Both partners have to be willing though. I also think that the relationship must not have come to a certain point too. I know that before in certain situations for me there was a point in which I was just through and no matter what the effort..I wasn't responsive at all. A shame but I couldn't help how I felt.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
I'm sure there's a point of no return for a relationship. I'm giving this a chance though as I'm not sure I"m there yet...
• United States
6 Dec 09
Hi, D.! John and I were the best of friends since we were very young kids, and I think that's why our marriage is marvelous.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
and you're probably good at communicating your needs to one another too!
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Dec 09
of course it can work if both people really want to learn how to make their marriage work better. I and my deceased husband used to use some of these ideas. The first thing we started to do was learn each others emotional needs and act accordingly. It takes a little practice but is well worth it. also i think a key word is respect, do we respect each other, as in I do not like someone even my hubby when he was alive walking in on me when I am on the throne. If I am just combing my hair thats fine,I can share the bathroom but otherwise do not intrude. My husband on the other hand did not mind letting me in inspite of that,but I chose to wait. all just little things but they annoy and thus we learn to respect the other person needs. this makes for amuch pleasanter time together. We learn to brainstorm together and to argue and to compromise when necess
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
Respect is very important. You may not agree with what the other person wants, but if you can respect that it's important to them and do it anyway, it's a good start.
@katsmeow1213 (28717)
• United States
7 Dec 09
It's not that simple! Let me tell you, my hubby is one of those ones who is repetitive and it drives me nuts! I've told him since way back when we were just in the dating phase that he needed to stop certain things because they automatically get me hot under the collar. Eight years later he still hasn't stopped, and I've tried every approach imaginable to get him to stop. He swears he'll stop, but never does. At this point it's just habit to do these things, and sometimes he does them without thinking. I mean, none of it's major, not going to wreck our marriage over it, it just drives me nuts and I wish he'd stop!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
I wonder, if you had it up to your neck with it and you were walking out the door, would he suddenly be able to stop the behavior?
• United States
7 Dec 09
Yeah, we've been in that spot. It wasn't totally because of the behaviors, it was mostly due to stress and he and his habits were the outlet, or just added to the stress. I've told him a few times if things didn't change I was gone. I've packed my bags once or twice, took off in the middle of the night... stuff like that. He'd promise to be better, and things might change for a day or two. But soon we settle back into the same routine and everything goes right back to how it was. Sometimes it's not all about the other person changing though. I believe change starts with ourselves. I'm learning acceptance. The more I accept his behaviors, the happier we can be together. He's extremely accepting of all my bad behaviors and flaws. I know I do things that drive him nuts as well, but he rarely brings them up, he just accepts that part of me.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
The good doctor would disagree with you, I think, but I'm not so sure I agree with him. It just depends on the behavior. Some things can be accepted easier than others.
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
6 Dec 09
[b]Those are the only things, coupled with a blessing from God, that do work! Why wait until a marriage is ready to fall apart to try them? If a couple begins with complete communication, honesty, a desire to please the other, & so on, unless one or both of them undergo a complete personality shift, it will keep them from drifting apart! Oh, a caveat about "communication." It does not mean you must confess stuff to the other that happened before you were even dating, nor does it mean that if you commit adultery, you have some obligation to "get it off your chest" so YOU will feel better. That will only destroy the other's trust--& to what benefit? None! Worse, if by that time you have children, they would suffer the consequences of your vanity if your crushed spouse divorced you. Broken homes are never a good thing! So just ask God to forgive your errors, recommit yourself to the marriage, & move on. Don't be selfish. Maggiepie___^..^
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
I'm sure it's much harder after the love has gone, so to speak... The doctor who posted this stuff disagrees with you though. He believes you should confess all past affairs, etc., so that the person knows exactly who and what they're dealing with. I'm not sure I agree him either. I feel like if you had certain bad behaviors in the past, but you've worked really hard to change them, why tip somebody off about something that isn't going to happen again?
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
5 Dec 09
It sounds far to simple and I guess the big part is that the 2 People still love one another and are willing to refresh their Marriage I do hope it can work as it might help some Marriages to get the Marriage back together
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
that the 2 People still love one another - that is the big question...
• Australia
5 Dec 09
Dawn it all sounds very logical and "abc" to me. The main ingredient is a desire to WANT things to work out. If that is there, there is no barrier.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
Want to work things out and follow through - it's the follow through that's the important thing to me at this point.
@royal52gens (5488)
• United States
6 Dec 09
Sounds good. But Dawn, you know I am very disenchanted with relationships right now. Maybe someday in the far off future I will believe in love again. Yes, divorce has soured my outlook. I hope this article you read is of great benefit for you. It is good you are looking for answers to questions. Me? I quit asking the questions. But then again, that is just me and not you. God Bless you with answers to your questions. May you find what you seek.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
I'm pretty disenchanted myself, but we shall see...
• United States
9 Dec 09
I can't speak for everyone but, I think some of it is true but, my marriage has been failing for quite some time and he will never stop his stupid habits. somethings just stay the same and you can't get that away from them. say for interest my husband likes to collect junk and I saw the way his sisters live and they live in cluttered places and say oh I might need that one day! Do you get my point? this is not sellable stuff it's only stuff they won't part with. They all love thrift stores and thats because it's cheaper. I personally don't like anything much anymore about him. He will be leaving again, this time for seven months and it's going to change everything this time. As for you my dear friend you should try to save your marriage. Is it really what the two of you want? Please ask yourself questions like can we really communicate openly or will we hold back something? Lay it all on the table and take a real hard look at it cause if you want to really make it work you have got to figure out the things that really bother you both. My husband perfects everything I do and makes me feel stupid,so one day he didn't like the way I cooked something or how I cleaned so, now he has that job and I just sit back and play. Maybe he's leaving cause he's overworked . aaawwwww!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Dec 09
I don't know if I'm quite to that point with him. He has a lot of good qualities among the bad and he is willing to try. Will that change how I feel at this point? I don't know. But three children and 26 years says it's worth the effort to me.
• United States
9 Dec 09
my own comment? yeah and further more he can leave and I won't care! tada!
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• United States
10 Dec 09
you are so right for hoping for your marriage to work and, I think that is where you both have to start is with some hope! good luck to you and quit worrying so much and just keep trying! luv ya both, joyfulpraise
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Dec 09
:-)
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
Oh thank you Dawn, I nearly passed by when I saw the link but you thought of me. As one who got annoyed by the other persons predictable behaviour and regression into some patterns which are just a no no for me, such as sulking, or having to be told repeatedly the basic things in life which a child of 7 has already mastered, to me that just makes the person lose all their attractiveness. For me once that has gone I'm done. I finished mine and I don't regret it as I've only got one life and can't imagine spending it with someone who annoys me. You certainly see a different side though when you want to divorce and the other person doesn't want it. I wouldn't have had your patience to try and work on it as I'd totally lost interest. You've got 3 children though so there's more at stake. Mine was working away so wasn't around as much at the end so it was less of a blow for my son. But funny how in the end the doting father ends up making the son being the one to pay for my choice by hoping that by not sending a penny of support for his son I'll go back to him. If you both think there's something worth salvaging though, and the attraction is still there, then go for it.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
Not quite sure if I'm patient, stubborn or just afraid to leave and screw up the kids. But if he's seriously willing to work on it, I think it's worth one more go...
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
8 Dec 09
Yes and no. It is simple, and it does work in general. The problem is, most people assume that the "you get the love back by" area is what the *other* person is supposed to do. So two people are in the middle of a marriage break down. The one gets on the web site and reads up: Do things that meet the other persons emotional needs. Do not do things that bother, annoy, anger, hurt. Communicate openly Spend time together. So then think "Oh wow! That's exactly what our problem is!" run off and get their spouse to read it. They also agree "You are right! That is exactly what our problem is!" Then they both wander off to their respective places in the house, and wait for the other person to meet their emotional needs, stop doing things that bother and annoy them, and wait for them to communicate openly, and hope they eventually spend time together. Both of them expect the other to do, what they both know needs done. Then when it doesn't happen, they both think "well obviously my spouse is a jerk. They know exactly what needs to be done, to make me happy, and they are not doing it". So they both go right back into a marriage spiral, and this time they are angry because they know the other isn't doing what they need to, in order to make them happy. So is it simple? Yes. But it's the hardest thing in the world to get two self centered people to do.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Dec 09
At a minimum, at the start, one person has to get away from the self centered thing and start doing things that make the other person feel good in the hopes that the other person will soften up and start reciprocating. If both of them go off to their respective corners and wait, nothing's ever going to get better.
• United States
6 Dec 09
people can change but if they have to whats the point in being together? and if they do really want to be together whats the point in leaving? stay with someone for who they are and how u feel around them
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
So I should accept being with somebody for who they are no matter what they're doing that hurts me and the children?
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
5 Dec 09
Dawn, i hope it works for y'all. Can't hurt to try it. GOOD LUCK.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
Nope, can't hurt...
@savypat (20216)
• United States
5 Dec 09
It seems to me for this to work both parties must be clear as to the goals and expectations in this agreement, after all most of the problems start and end with communication. It's best to put it in writing and both to sign. Do not sign unless you totally agree with everything in the contract, work on the wording until you both are satisfied. You will be amazed on how much better you are both feeling after just doing the work to get the contract made. Blessings
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Dec 09
I hadn't thought to put it in writing, but clearly both parties must agree. :-)
@camomom (7535)
• United States
11 Dec 09
Just dropping in to say Hi. I'm WAY behind on my friends posts. Sorry for the generic comment. Happy Holidays!!!