Nasty words and insults may belong on a school play ground, but Here?

@Hatley (163781)
Garden Grove, California
February 27, 2010 3:41pm CST
This is maybe partly a rant but a mylotter friend of mine who is beloved by many here, her and her little dog, was hurt and insulted by someone. this is so hard for me to believe as she is one very sweet kind person. So am asking other mylotters. are not nasty words and insulting words the things kindergartners and first graders may do? Are they appropriate for we mylotters to use in our discussions? Why do any of us do these kind of things? Surely we are all adults to some extent here? What gives? I just do not understand. This person has a lot on her plate right now and the last thing she needed was for a mylotter to say something to her that hurt her. your take please.
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@benny128 (3615)
27 Feb 10
I guess when you are on a site like this people have their own opinions I can't comment on what was said as I have no idea what was said and in what context. But when ever somebody posts on mylot or any web site then they leave themselves open to things they might not want to hear. I am not saying its right or wrong as I said before I have no idea what was said, if it was offensive then the place to air it is with the admins of mylot as I know of a few accounts which have been suspended due to offensive behaviour which is not welcome on mylot by the mylot admins. Hope your friend gets it sorted.
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• Australia
28 Feb 10
Flaming is for amateurs and people who are still living in 1995. It's out of date, out of touch, and lousy manners. There's no excuse for abuse, and never any justification. Mylotters take note: You don't have to put up with it. Report it, draw attention on threads like this one, and let other Mylotters have their say. The message will get through, eventually. Well done, Hatley, for bringing up this subject.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
1 Mar 10
wanderlaugh, there was a misunderstanding on my part, then hers, so am asked to put this to bed as its all beenresolved and she is fine.she justs wants peace now so she can get moved.,
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Feb 10
hi benny yes it was reported I am now told and the person who did this was talked to by mylot admins. so that is good. I also did not see the discussion she told about but was so sad as this person is a real sweetheart and never says anything unkind to anyone. yes I know when we post in public but still mylot has rules about flaming and using insulting words.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
27 Feb 10
They are not appropriate for kindergarten and first grades. in fact, parents have to teach their children to be nice and kind as soon as the child can understand. There are also those who believe by swearing and cursing that they can get away with it because there is no way to trace them. (unless they use some of the words the FBI is looking for.) By the way, is the little dog all right?
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 Mar 10
What that means is that they use the F words and they also blaspheme God by using HIS name in cursing. It was cuss too, not cuss tooth. Or swear and curse too.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Feb 10
hi suspenseful yes he is doing well and i am so glad too.You are so right they are not appropriate for little children either. I think there its partly p arents fault as small ones will imitate their parents, and if parents are not careful the little ones will swear and cuss too
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@pupupd (1515)
• India
1 Mar 10
Sorry I am not from English background, but can you tell me what did you mean by "and cuss tooth.." in your last line? I agree with both of you regarding parents mistake on spoiling their children. Children most of the time immitate what they see their parents doing and that is what they learn and grow up doing it even more. If parents are not careful about their actions then their kids are bound to suffer.
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@lissaj (532)
• United States
27 Feb 10
I don't think nasty words and insults are appropriate anywhere, especially in a playground. We are adults with a wide array of words in our vocabulary. We should be able to express our opinions on topics without being insulting. It is our job as parents to teach our children this also. Of course we know that not everyone does this. If I were your friend, I would not pay any attention to replies like that. The way I see it, if someone can not post a reply in a respectful manner without being rude, then I really don't have the time to respond to it. Everyone has a different opinion and I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone who can't voice those opinions nicely.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Feb 10
you and me both lissaj we as adults have good vocabularies so lets use respectful words and not aim to hurt or humiliate anyone. I am getting to the point where I will bypass discussions that show meanness in any way as there is no excuse for it at all. Rudeness is not necessary in a place like mylot at all.
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@pupupd (1515)
• India
1 Mar 10
I don't think whatever happened with your friend was due to lack of vocabulary or lack of ability to voice opinion in polite manner Lol That person genuinely wanted to hurt your friend and has done it, this is not acceptable here in mylot. And the most important thing to notice here is written words are more worse than anything said or heard. Those things can be viewed anytime by anyone unless admin deleted it from the record.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
27 Feb 10
Oh now what? Kick the bullies out!
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Feb 10
hi dawnald. I found out the bully or bullies did more or less get kicked out. I felt so angry as this person is really one sweet kind person and has enough on her plate without being insulted. but the person or persons were reported and have been dealt with.good for mylot.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
1 Mar 10
hi all embarrassed as I misunderstood and she did too , all big misunderstanding that has been rectified, she is fine just wants this over, andpeace again.
@free_man (7330)
• United States
28 Feb 10
Hi Dawnald. I think we should be able to kick the bullies out of this site. Hi Hatley. I hope these bullies did get kicked off this site. If they can't be on here and be nice to others then they should be kicked out off this site.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
28 Feb 10
Hi Hatley! Love your new beautiful avatar! Makes me feel all Springy and happy! As for the discussion in question, I don't know which one, but if I did and who insulted our very close friend I would give them hell and more! Whatever it was that was said to her was definitely uncalled for because she is one of the most revered people on the Lot! I am very upset to hear that someone would dare insult her! She is one of the sweetest and kindest people here and is going through so much at this time and needs all her friends around her and not some stupid azzhole throwing negative crap! That is as you said, kindergarten behavior! It if find out who was the person, I will report them! We will not take this kind of behavior to our "Senior Memembers" here! That means, those of us who have been here for the long run! Don't even try to mess with us because we have alot of friends to back us up and the admin too! Right Alice!
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Feb 10
thanks Opal she told me it had been reported and dealtwith 'and was so sweet, she told me not to fret. I just got really ticked off as I thought everyone here liked and loved her and her doggie. well now I am so glad, I did' not see the discussion or I would have been really teed'off
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
28 Feb 10
She sent me a private email! I feel a bit better now too! I am like you! If I would have seen it I would have gone off! Hugs, Opal
• Canada
27 Feb 10
I'm fairly new to mylot and I got to say that this has been a great experience for me. In my 4 weeks that I've been with mylot I have read some good discussions, good responses, but like in any forum or social site there will be some negative views and opinions from people that will come off as offensive. Whenever I encounter another mylotter who has a strong opinion about my discussion and it comes off as kinda offensive to me, I'll just respond to that comment and then move on to the next one. Unfortunately there are some that have something offensive to say, but we as mylotters have to realize that everyone on this planet has their own views and opinions. It is up to us to determine what to do with those comments.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Feb 10
hi tdiamond33 welcome to mylot. I am glad you arehaving a great 'experience as mylot really is a great place and usually everyone is kind and is able to share varying opinionswithout being unkind or hateful. I always weigh things and if the response is really really' insulting I do not minus it I just report it. but I am careful that its really insulting not just a difference of opionions. lol.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
27 Feb 10
Hi Sweetie It will never change there will always be someone here and other Sites that will do this It was not so much said to the Person it was actually reported and the Person received a warning from admin The thing is People will never approach the Person first they will report and then this happens Don't worry Sweet I am sure your Friend will be ok as you say she just has to much going on right now and is close to breaking down so this will be the last thing on her mind I love you Sweet
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Feb 10
Gabs I know you are right but its so sad that p eople do these things as its childish and so immature. Do take good care of yourself and ] dont let silly crap make you feel bad. We are all your friends. good luck on your move and get lots of rest now. hugs from hatley.
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@pupupd (1515)
• India
1 Mar 10
Did gabs get to read all the nasty words? Who is that friend hatley? I want to hear what she has to say about this discussion which has been dedicated to her for the injustice done to her.
@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
28 Feb 10
I try not to be insulting here, but sometimes some person will push me too far and then they'll hear my tongue. For example, one person called me a racist and he heard about it about for a day. As I don't usually do that, I think I have more leeway with the MyLot admin than someone who gets out of line everyday. I think those are the people they ban.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Feb 10
hi cripfemme I think so too, and I have done the same thing when I saw once a mylotter who had a whole slew of people ranting at her. but mylot admins did not say anything to me but they sure deleted a lotof those ranter's responses thank goodness for that, my friend says the badies were reported to my lot admins and dealt with by mylot admins.
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@nanajanet (4436)
• United States
27 Feb 10
Nasty words and insults sound like an immature and/or low self-esteem person. It is bully behavior and we all know that bullies do not like themselves very much and many times, not all, are of lower intelligence, too. Was this person reported? I hope so!
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Feb 10
hi nanajanet yes indeed that had to b e immature and probably a person or persons who did not think much of themselves. they have been reported and mylot admins did admonish them too. things like this irritate me as mylot is usually not at all like this,. we often have people who may disagree with our opinons but still respect us and them and we do the same.
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28 Feb 10
Hi Hatley, I don't ubnderstand why some people behaves like children, why are they so nasty? I did not see the her response by this pesron but I know the his dear friend of ours is going through some tough time and she don't need this person to say nasty things to her, if this person who is nasty, has no business being here on mylot. Tamara
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
1 Mar 10
hitamara feel so dumb,she asked me to put' this to be,all a big misunderstanding and has been fixed all are happy again. she just wants some peace and quiet now.
1 Mar 10
Hi Hatley, I know she spoke to me and told me about it, yes all is well at the mo, she needs some peace as she has been so stressed of late, hugs. Tamara xxxx
@LaurenInLA (2270)
• United States
27 Feb 10
Hi Hatley. Whether she has a lot on her plate or not isn't the point to me. We all deserve to be treated with decency and respect and if you can't give that to someone, then you shouldn't comment. I am very sorry that your friend was hurt. She should consider the source and remember that most of the people who respond to our comments don't know what uniquely wonderful people that we all are. It's unfortunate that some people have so little joy in their lives that they lash out at people who are filled with it. Instead of feeling hurt, I hope that she will feel sorry for someone who has so little in their lives. Best of luck to her.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Feb 10
hi laureninla she said as much herself, and is so much more kind and understanding than I am, sorry to say. things like this make me feel angry and sad too as like you say these people must be so unhappy they feel the need to hurt people who are enjoying life.the culprit or culprits were talked to by mylot admins. thats good.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
28 Feb 10
Hi Hatley, I am a nasty one in real life. :( I dont really want to be. I politely say no several times but when the person is not taking my no - and persists with his or her own agenda - I do go for nastiness and insults. :( Not everybody is sensitive and caring enough Hatley. So sometimes it becomes essential to give some thick skinned people a dose of their own medicine. As to your friend, I am certain she does not belong to the category that deserves nastiness. Some people are born with the art of being nasty - and they are popular as well! In others case, as in mine, the art is cultivated - therefore, I dont get it instantaneously. It goes on brewing in my mind, and then comes out suddenly. The person who seems to have been nasty with your friend is in all probability, a born nasty person! Genetic fault! It runs in families. They are best forgotten as retards, or deformed people. They generally have their set of friends who enjoy such behavior. And such people dont become adults because they are retarded, remember? They only spread unhappiness wherever they go. :( Tell your friend to ignroe them. She deserves to be happier. There are ample people out here, who could do with friends like her. :)
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Feb 10
hi vandy no you are not that bad e xcept when you need to be. the bullies or bully I found out were reported to mylot admins and havebeen thoroughly admonished. this by the sweetie who was hurt by the idiot or idiots.I did not see the discussion myself, probably just as well as I might have got myself in trouble blowing up at whoever it was. thank Goodness it was reported.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
1 Mar 10
I have no doubt that you'd have been there to defend her. :) What I like about friends here is that they stand up for what is right! I came in for some undesirable comments, and I was still shocked, but Grandpa_Lash was swift enough to report it as abuse, and went so far as reprimanding the Indian boy for using that language for me. I was very touched with that gesture. I am sure other mylotters would have come to defend your friend. :) Somehow, this seems like a large family where everybody knows everybody, and there seems to be no room for mean things. :)
27 Feb 10
I was attacked on here today actually, just because I showed some confidence. The person (who have only responded to 4 disscussions) stated that i must think highly of myself and in her opinion I must be unattractive to have say what i did. Not cool. One of my Mylot friends stuck up for me big time, as she kind of insulted her also.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
1 Mar 10
hi renaissance I think I saw that .glad they stuck up for you too.Im embarrassed as shetold me to put this to bed, 'as I misunderstood, and it was all a big fat misunderstanding that has been cleared up now. she just wants to get moved and feel good again.
@13tyates (1606)
• United States
28 Feb 10
This site is meant to help everyone and not in any way harm or hurt someone! It is really sad that people have to be rude and hurtful to others. We do have to remember though that there will always be people like this. If someone does not agree with something then they should say so in a kind matter. Noone should hurt anyone! As for your friend I hope she is able to get past this, and tell her sorry that people have to be like this and try to find all the great things about amazing people on MyLot! :)
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Feb 10
13tyates hi she just asked please go no further,it was a complete misunderstanding thats been resolved,so now she just wants to rest up for the big move tomorrow.
@13tyates (1606)
• United States
1 Mar 10
I am glad it was a misunderstanding and it is not bad! Still even in other situations it is sad to see it happen! But I am glad it was a misunderstanding! Hope she does good!
• Pakistan
28 Feb 10
hi hatley! It does no matter to the target person, but it degrade the personality of the person who behave like that you told. Only nasty people can use the nasty and dirty language. Therefore you friend or you should not show any reaction. Ignorance is the best revenge and reply to such misbehaving people.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Feb 10
hi sheenshaukat please lets let this close as she said it was all big misunderstanding that has been resolved. she just need to get on now with her life and the big move.
@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
27 Feb 10
I agree with you Hatley. Insulting, belittling or nasty words have no place here or anywhere else. They never help who ever they are aimed at, nor in the long run do they help the person who uttered them. Some try to elevate themselves by knocking some one else, but it's only in their own minds that it improves anything. If anything it reduces them to a lower status than before, but unfortunately they just done see it. Wouldn't it be nicer if everyone realized that in raising some one up, that it raises themselves too?
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
1 Mar 10
catdla1 Im embarrassed,I misunderstood her, she says it was all a misunderstanding that has now been put right,so it was must be closed.,she just wants to get moved.
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
2 Mar 10
Well! Glad that is settled for all concerned! Ice cream social at my house....coming?
@cyrus123 (6363)
• United States
27 Feb 10
I don't think anybody has a right to use nasty words or insult people no matter how old they are. It is childish, though. Whoever said these insulting words must have been going through a rough time him/herself. That's still no excuse to be rude to people. People who use nasty words and insults need to realize that other people have problems, too. Kathy.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Feb 10
hi Kathy no it sure is not , and of all people to have this done to, the person is really very kind and sweet. but anyway we all need to remember once something is down on virtual paper its too late to rescind it, so I always check myself specially if I am a bit irritated by a discussion as I do not want to be rude just because I might not agree. we all have our own beliefs and opinions and must respect others just as we want to be respected too.
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@cyrus123 (6363)
• United States
27 Feb 10
It's not christian to behave this way, either. Kathy.
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@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
28 Feb 10
Hello, Hatley. There are some wonderful people on here - and there are also some who are just a complete waste of the space they occupy. If I can't say something positive, I try not to say anything at all - it is rarely justified to say hurtful things, whatever the sircumstances. The only time I make with the insults is in a situation such as you describe when a good friend is being flamed. Then everyone better run for cover, because I won't see my friends insulted and do nothing about it.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Feb 10
hi Sandra1952 seems it was just a misunderstanding, and its been' resolved and she asks us to not air anything, she justs wants to go on about her life, and get ready for the move
@mandybeau (279)
• New Zealand
28 Feb 10
One of the reasons I chose not to perservere with the old Site, You even had Stalkers, in the end I ended up saying worse back. There seems to be a mentality of gutless people that have no intestinal fortitude that go out and pick on others, they wouldn't in person, but there is this thing no one knows who exactly anyone is on here. I think your friend shd just thing Small minded Tosser and Move on. Good she has friends likeyou to watch out for her tho. mandy
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Feb 10
hi mandybeau yes it was reported and the person or persons were'dealth with but it sure made me angry for her sake, she is well liked here 'by everyone,she and her doggie. I am glad it was resolved. I just let my self get angry over it.
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@pandaeyes (2065)
28 Feb 10
That is a shame on a site where we come for a friendly chat. She can report the post though and it might get removed which would help a little . I think sometimes people post and press submit to quickly and there is no way to edit our hasty replies so they may have regretted it ,the minute it was online. Sometimes people don't realise that their words sound hurtful. I think it is worth thinking about an answer in which a judgement has been made before going ahead and posting.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Feb 10
hi pandaeyes shes asked me to not pursue this further as it was a misunderstanding thats been resolved now. she just wants to get on with resting and getting ready to move.