he needs to stop pitching because the receiver isn't there

@dawnald (85135)
Shingle Springs, California
March 9, 2010 5:47pm CST
Somebody is trying to change my mind on something when I've already made a decision. All he's doing is stressing me out and strengthening my resolve. All I need to do is stop wussing out and say so loud and clear until the message is heard. What do you do when people keep pushing when you've already decided? PS Great expression,huh?
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• Australia
10 Mar 10
My apologies, this is about relationships. This is why I stayed single. I watched my mum be verbally and emotionally abused by my father; verbally, emotionally and physically abused by her defacto. Statistics say that offspring tend to continue the chain of abuse and pick a partner more likely to abuse them. So I chose to remain single all my life to break that chain. But if it did ever happen to me that I got stuck in the kind of relationship that you're saying, children or not. I'd leave. If I had kids, I'd take them with me.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
S'ok, I agree with you on the telemarketers. He is absolutely, positively flabbergasted at the idea that anything he says or does could possibly be considered abusive. Just doesn't get it, won't ever get it imho. That's really the issue. I don't think things will ever change, because his self image keeps him in denial of the impact of his actions.
• Australia
10 Mar 10
That was the same problem with both my father and, years later, mum's defacto. Neither of them saw that what they were doing was abuse. Mum left my father no problem, but then stupidly walked into the arms of her defacto who was even worse. Took me the next 25 yrs to get her to leave him!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
some people never learn
• Australia
10 Mar 10
If you're talking about Telemarketers. I love giving them a hard time. A few years back, they were trying to sell me a phone package. I said I couldn't buy one, they asked how come, I said it was against my religion. They fell for it!! More recently, again a call about a phone package. I told them it wouldn't work for me. Again they said why. I said I don't have a phone. THEY FELL FOR IT!! DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE TALKING TO ME ON ONE!!! I really love giving them a hard time. :)
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
hahahahaha They should have given him an IQ test before hiring him. Nope, not telemarketers. I just hang up on them.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
19 Mar 10
I have been there in the end I said it loud and clear but it still would not sink in It did when the Divorce Papers went through, he finally left me alone It is very stressful specially when it turns to threats and making someones Life He**
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
20 Mar 10
Well that is good Dawn My Ex Husband never saw what he did wrong but well never mind
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 10
but will there be a change, who knows? we shall see. and does it matter at this point anyway? only time will tell..
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Mar 10
We had a session Tuesday in which he actually said some things that came across as very genuine instead of manipulative and "telling me what I want to hear". Not sure that's going anywhere, but it was a relief to hear that he was actually looking at his own behavior and what was causing it for a change!
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@jugsjugs (12967)
10 Mar 10
I know what you are saying as even though i know what would be best for me i think may not be the right thing todo for my children,so i think that while they are young i will have to keep wussing out all the time.I know it is hard to stick to what is you want as i have that problem.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
I'm to the point where I think staying together is toxic for the children. So no more wussing out...
• United States
10 Mar 10
Make him pay that child support and alimony and get yourself a hottie honey.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
Sadly, I make more money. But if I have the kids most of the time, I may still get child support.
• Boston, Massachusetts
14 Mar 10
Hi Dawn, I will tell him to stop because it will surely not help. i've made up my mind and sorry it's too late for him to change my decision. no way now it's final!
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Mar 10
I can't put this on my daughter. sigh...
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• Boston, Massachusetts
20 Mar 10
!
@krisnel (498)
• Philippines
10 Mar 10
there are people in our surroundings who are doing that. they will ask if our mind wont change for the decisions we have made. for me as i experienced it a lot of times. when i am already decided enough. someone will ask if i will never regret on my decision. again i will think a million of times and i will review again my decision. i will think for the outcome of my decision.
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• United States
13 Mar 10
I have been stubborn since birth! When I say no , I Mean no, not maybe. When I make up my mind about things no one can change it. they can try to change my mind but it is they that get stressed out , not me. I just keep on the path I chose and they can keep wasting their breath Trying to change my mind if they like but it isn't going to work.
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• United States
13 Mar 10
Were you the same as you are when you married him? If so,he should Know better!
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Mar 10
that is usually true for me too, but with this marriage some days I don't know if I"m up or I"m down...
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
11 Mar 10
ya, that's a great saying and fitting too. I am very very stubborn. If I have my mind set, all the pushing in the world will do nothing other than get me to push back even harder. If someone pushes too hard then I 'll just ignore them. I don't get pushed into doing much of anything that I really don't want to do.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Mar 10
no, me either usually..
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
11 Mar 10
If u are going to do it u need to do it & quit wussing out. action!!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Mar 10
yesm
@savypat (20216)
• United States
10 Mar 10
Well I have found that you just have to stand up and say I don't want to discuss this any more. It's either tht or just tune out.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
or kick out
@jesssp (2712)
• Canada
10 Mar 10
Lol, ya, that's a pretty good expression! I know that with me if I've already made up my mind about something, or even if I'm just starting to lean one way, any pressure that's applied to sway me in another direction usually does nothing but cement my decision. Sometimes this is a good thing because it keeps me from being indecisive and wishy washy. And sometimes it's bad because if the pushing starts before I've really made my decision it can lead to me making the wrong one. Depending on what it is I'll sometimes go one way just because someone is trying to push me another way.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
Being pushed in a direction I don't want to go just stresses me...
@vandana7 (98929)
• India
11 Mar 10
Hi Dawn, you seem to have made up your mind. At times, we do change our minds you know, so think it over really well because there would be no way you could retrace your steps. Dont want any regrets afterwards. What you can do is ask him to give you a few months time to think things over. Say four months or six months. That way you could stop wussing out, and it would be his turn to twiddle his thumbs. As to people like that in my life, I classify them into three types. Family, family friends, and colleagues. Took me a great deal of resolve to expose my reasoning to other family friends. I am very slow at condemning. I dont like to be wrong in my judgment. Eventually of course, people have accepted my reasoning - yes they failed me. I wish I'd been this bold some 30 odd years ago. :( I am not giving them second chances.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Mar 10
Mine usually is tooo
@vandana7 (98929)
• India
11 Mar 10
I was fortunate enough that my reasoning was right.
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@LuaCara (50)
• India
10 Mar 10
Luckily, I have no trouble saying no to people and sticking to my decision. I would just look them straight in the eye and say I've made up my mind and come what may I am not going to change it so would they please stop. Generally, because people know my temperament this always works for me. Good Luck.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
11 Mar 10
So you are being secretive. Just what is it that you have decided to take a stance on?
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
It's a bit harder because I have 30 years invested in this one...
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
10 Mar 10
Before I make a decision, I weigh all sides. Sometimes it can take me forever to make a decision (great Libra), but once I have, I can be as stubborn as a mule (year of the ox). I rarely change my mind, and people may as well give up trying to change my mind. If they continue, I turn away and walk away, which usually really p***es them off. But I just continue to walk...
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
me too...
@vandana7 (98929)
• India
11 Mar 10
Hi hofferp, I am a cancerian, and I have those libran characteristics!
@GardenGerty (157652)
• United States
10 Mar 10
If you have made a decision, it is time to act on it. Until you do he will be whining and pulling at you to get you to change your mind. It will not be over, until it is over. Actually, since you have kids together, some parts of it will never be over, you will even have grand kids together.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
yeah he got me to agree to an extra week during counseling.. I'm a wus.
• Australia
10 Mar 10
IF it is a definite decision, and IF you have talked with the kids about it and IF they have accepted the situation, it is time to move - either a temporary move or a permanent one. Or maybe the kids need a little time?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
I wussed out and gave him a week. We need to figure out how when and what to tell the kids... But my mind is made up.
@BarBaraPrz (45574)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
10 Mar 10
Ask him, "What part of (fill in the blank) do you not understand?"
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
I have done that a few times...
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
10 Mar 10
I say stop. There is no use for you to waste your time..I've decided and that's it! Wanna a nut shot..talk to my friend Mykl! Keep messing with me and he'll show you around..lol..Seriously though... It's never easy when someone we have a past with attempts to persuade us. They know how to do it best..but if your mind is really made up then you have an advantage too...you know how to communicate your feelings..you just haven't went to that level with him. Maybe it's time if you are sure.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
I don't need Mykl just yet, maybe next week!
@shibham (16977)
• India
10 Mar 10
I never care anybody's speech or suggestion after taking a decision. My decision is full and final. To some extent, I am a desperate guy. Nice avatar u have. Who is that child? Thanks.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
The child is me at 1 year old!
@kaylachan (58118)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
10 Mar 10
Its streight and simple actually. You say how it is, and walk away. You aren't doing yourself any good by letting this insanity continue in this way. Its not healthy for you or the other party involved. You've made up your mind, and that's acceptable, but you could probably at least consider the other person's point-of-view. At least if for no other reason... to reduce the stress on the both of you. This does not mean you have to fallow through, it just means you're taking another point-of-view into consideration.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
Gave him another week, let's see if he's on best behavior and if my stress level is reduced any...