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Ignorance is no excuse - Can we get away with saying you are just sorry for your mistakes
United States
August 29, 2010 11:56am CST
I just do not get it. Seriously how can people make mistake after mistake over and over before someone says enough already. Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, Blagojevich to name a few (this really is not just about them), but how many times do people make mistakes before they finally realize enough already and take responsibility. How lucky of those that can commit so many mistakes and be able to get away with it. I personally know a few non public figures who do the same. I just do not get it! Me for instance, I only need to be told once and for sure I will not do something ever again. How many times does it take for people to learn a lesson? How many times do they have to be in front of a judge before they truly understand that life must be treasured and not taken so lightly? Can ignorance just be a plain excuse? Oh I am no angel but certainly do not ever plan to be in the same predicaments at least more than once. How do you feel about people who say it was just a mistake? How many times do you really just forgive these people? And how many licks does it take to get to the center of the problem?
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@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
29 Aug 10
Some people just do not care or listen for that matter. I have seen a few who make the same mistake over and over again, but never learn from it. Should i help and explain, uumm no. If you don't get it yourself the first time, explaining and helping you in the right direction won't help at all, would it? It's not really a problem sweetie, they make it a problem. That's humans for you. Stupid and stubborn. TATA.
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• United States
29 Aug 10
I did not see it this way but you are absolutely correct, they do make it a problem. All of commit mistakes and we should not judge the mistake but judge how a person handles and learns from the mistakes. I suppose these stubborn people just do not care, but yet want us to feel sorry for them. Ugh.
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@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
29 Aug 10
I won't pity someone who cannot think for themselves or learn through a mistake, sweetie.
• United States
29 Aug 10
Yes absolutely, I just feel bad for the families and others that were harmed due to the ignorance. But I know I can not save the world.
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@qianyun6 (2066)
• China
30 Aug 10
They must pay for their mistakes. That's it. Usually people will not learn anything from mistakes, they only learn from punishment, by nature or by other people.
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• United States
30 Aug 10
This is how I have learned to deal with people who continue to abuse the fact that forgiveness is issued too lightly. When I have been wronged repeated times I feel the best punishment is turn and look the other way. I know we are suppose to turn the other cheek, but by gosh mine are sore I have no more room for more. So punishment gets my vote and thanks for responding.
@sid556 (30953)
• United States
29 Jun 11
Hi HWG, I don't really understand it either. Personally, I value my freedom and could not stand to be in prison for even a night. I think if I did something that landed me there, it would surely wake me up. I think with a lot of people, the problem goes deeper than the crimes. A lot of times addiction is a big part of the problem and other times there are mental issues. After a while, some of them really aren't bothered by jail. They have made friends there and it is "home" to them.
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@sid556 (30953)
• United States
30 Jun 11
I actually know quite a few people like this. I'll never understand it. I'd rather learn from my mistakes. If you keep repeating the same behavior then it isn't a mistake..it's a way of life.
• United States
30 Jun 11
Hi sid Gosh being put in jail would definitely wake me up. I would be so spooked and it would frighten me so that I could not imagine a second time around. I do know a few personally who seem to be in the same predicaments all the time, it is such a waste of life. I don't understand but yes I agree we have often discussed off-line how this type of life does become a "home" to them. Too sad though.
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• United States
22 Oct 11
You are right as here we are four months later and the people I was thinking about in my comment have not changed one bit. Sadly as you say it is part of their life and they do not know anything different.
@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
29 Aug 10
I'm with you here. Sure we are not perfect, but we were given by God some amount of brain (I assume), and we ought to be able to learn a lesson from the mistakes we make in our lives. But to repeat the same mistake over and over is just unacceptable. Unless they think this is not a mistake ...
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• United States
29 Aug 10
No seriously they do not think it is a mistake as how many times have we not said oh gosh I will never do something again. I suppose after a hard punishment of some sort it would cause us to be this way. As for the people who continue to make these mistakes, either they really do not care about their lives in general or are just plain dumb.
• United States
23 Oct 11
I find that the rich man will instantly hire someone to be rid of the one bug.
• India
30 Aug 10
Hello Gurl, There are two kinds of mistakes. Ones that you do accidentally. This is not habitual. Immediately after committing such offence people do realize their folly and try their best to rectify. There are other kinds of mistakes that originates from some deep rooted cause. It is often hard to identify the true cause. Sometimes it has some psychological cause and needs extensive therapy. Of course, little bit of introspection always helps. But there are people, especially the celebrities you are talking about, neither have time nor interest in venturing such a mammoth task. Though they are punished for their mistakes, the root cause still stays undetected. This is the reason why these mistakes are repeated again and again. Psychological counselling often helps. Thanks. God bless you
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• India
31 Aug 10
Well, they don't think they are invisible. It's just that their ego and inflexibility reduce the rest of the world almost to insignificance.
• United States
30 Aug 10
Oh I so agree with you, but the mistakee, has to realize they actually are committing the same mistakes for them to realize they have issues. Some people just think that simply saying I am sorry again and again is simply enough and then have the gull to be upset because they won't be forgiven again. Ha! I suppose sometimes people just are avid into believing they are invisible and carry on as normal. Thanks friend for responding. Good Day and be well.
@rameshchow (4426)
• India
29 Aug 10
I never exuse them, I just eliminate them from my mind. We have learn from the mistake in the first time only. And it is not correct to naming them as "that is my first mistake, this is my second mistake, this is the final........" i don't like this way. We have to do our level best that is good only not a mistake.
• India
2 Sep 10
hahahaaah, good people supports reality.......
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• United States
23 Oct 11
Someone revived this discussion and as I was skipping through the pages I see you here. I have not heard from you in a while, and I know you are quite busy offline. I do hope all is going well and that you are okay. I know someday I will get the news that our Remo has completed his studies. Best of luck my little brother sending you hugs..
• United States
29 Aug 10
So very true rameshchow, you are right everyone we all can make one mistake is how we handle the consequences of that mistake. You are absolutely right to eliminate them immediately as we work so hard at doing the right things why should there be excuses for ignorance.
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• India
30 Aug 10
I think people who go on repeating the same mistakes, do it on purpose. I’ve seen many such people, right from my school days to now in office and they are all the same without any exception. They purposefully make the mistakes (yes, I truly believe that they have their own reasons for making those mistakes), then they act innocent and the entire world bends backwards to support them…once that purpose is solved, these people just move on as if nothing has happened and as and when situation demands, they again make those same ‘mistakes’. When you say that you try not to make the same mistakes twice, its because in your case, it’s a genuine mistake…you are not trying to take advantage of the world or to bring yourself to the limelight by any means.
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• United States
30 Aug 10
Very valid point friend, my take is that if we continue to easily hand out the it is okay and the same person persists on making the same mistakes in sense we are enabling them and that would not be healthy at all. Unfortunately some people do not see it this way they see as we are horrible and mean people. I am a forgiving person but my memory serves me right and well I cannot continue to forgive the same mistakes over and over again. Thanks for responding,
@derek_a (10873)
30 Aug 10
It takes all sorts to make a world, and some people are slower at learning their lessons than others. They may have addictive personalities and are totally addicted to negative behaviour that leads to big mistakes in their life. Therefore some of us will learn from the mistakes of others, but many of us just have to find out for ourselves and quite often more than once! _Derek
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• United States
30 Aug 10
Exactly I agree but I also agree that until a person truly learns from their repeated mistakes they cannot expect and or demand forgiveness and receive it each time. My take is that a mistake can be forgiven and learned from, but a repeated mistake well unless the person learns on their own there really is nothing one can do for the person as continual forgiveness is like enabling the person and things are fine all the time. Thanks for responding.
@JOIEMARVIC (2334)
• Philippines
30 Aug 10
I do not get it either. Maybe this people often gets away with the mistakes they do that's why they keep on doing it over and over again.I am not praying that this people would experience something really big time to make them realize their mistakes, but geez, they really should be doing something good in their lives. Fame and power will never last, they should realize that. They should be responsible with their lives. I am hoping one day these people would just change and do something productive in their lives.
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• United States
30 Aug 10
Yes there is so much we can do for people like this, hopefully it won't be a loss as Hatley mentions above as by then it is too late as how do we forgive something like this. You are right to say that some people feel that power and money will get them out of anything, but one thing for sure when they run out of money they will be left with no one and no money. Thanks for responding.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
30 Aug 10
i think the primary factor is because they have everything. they think that everything is easy for them to get away with. and even acknowledging them as mistake is so easy for them without really being serious about it. it is superficial to me to see them cry or despondent about the consequences of their mistakes. but if they dont change, they are not worth any ounce of sympathy.
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• United States
30 Aug 10
Truly this discussion was in comparison to these people, but in reality it was about the regular people around us who choose to make the same mistakes over and over again. Beg for the I am sorry and truly never learn a lesson. I am with you on this one and feel that people like these celebrities do not deserve a single tear. We as humans are suppose to forgive and forget, but how many times really can we actually do this before the people understand that bad mistakes just cannot continue to be made. Thanks for responding I agree with you on this.
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@aurorastorm (1131)
• United States
30 Aug 10
This really infuriates me as well, when I heard about Paris Hilton's arrest again over the weekend. First I get mad that someone who has so much money, while I am struggling, is so stupid and did not learn from when she went to jail. Then I get even more mad at they way she and others try to spin what happened. I would rather they come out and say "YES, I DID IT AND I AM REALLY STUPID!".
• United States
30 Aug 10
Well see what jail was she in to start off with. Had she been put in with the general public even for a day perhaps she would have learned her lesson. I read a blog here on myLot today, Oh how it angered me. Lindsay Lohan short of 5 hours of being released jumped in her 150k new car and ran a red light. You know what she got a warning. Ya think you and I would have received a warning, heck no girl we would have gotten a big fat whopping ticket and yes because we are struggling we would never ever do it again. ha! This world is twisted.
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@carpediem17 (1315)
• Singapore
30 Aug 10
hi hardworkinggurl, it seems that this problem afflict quite a lot of people particularly celebraties. I believe their lifestyle is so different that substance abuse and going on a high is what matters to them most of the time. Just look at George Michael who has been caught time and again, the male version of Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan! It seems like there is no major goal or meaning in their lives (at least as far as I can see) other than parties, concerts and the like. Perhaps a huge dose of reality is what they really need. Or is it just a flaw in their characters or the people around them.
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• United States
30 Aug 10
Absolutely if they had absolutely no money and fame oh they would actually learn, or perhaps get deeper into their habitual surroundings. It is quite a shame and waste of life, imagine you and or I with that kind of money, see we have struggled to be just okay in life, but imagine how much good we could create. Oh sorry I was fantasizing for a minute and thought maybe the world could be perfect for a second. Have a blessed day, an thanks for responding.
@cajimenez (452)
• Philippines
30 Aug 10
These kind of people are stubborn and simply don't care because they know they could always get away with their mistakes. They're numb. They don't want a lesson,because they're self-centered.
• United States
30 Aug 10
Well they need to get over themselves and start to take responsibility for their actions as this is plain dumb. A touch of reality is what they need no slap on the wrist or turn the other cheek as each time he mistakes get bigger and bigger. Thanks for responding.
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@jailo12 (332)
• Philippines
30 Aug 10
people really are made to make mistake and the only thing they can do is to minimize that ..people are not perfect therefore mistakes can be done anytime ..even one after another ..so deal with, maybe they have their own reason for doing that kind of mistakes ..good day ..^^
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• United States
30 Aug 10
Certainly people make mistakes, hon did you read the entire discussion though, it is not about people not making mistakes, it is about people making the same mistakes over and over again. I mean really how many times do you as a person make mistakes, I make them daily but sure enough I do not repeat the same mistake over and over again, come on how many times would you really make the same mistake and expect people to be so caring and forgiving. Seriously, I only need to commit it once and that is it, I may commit another form of mistake but not the same one again and then be ignorant about it. This is about learning from a mistake and or just being plain ignorant and thinking that people are so resilient that the same repeated mistake would be forgiven, hmmn.
@owlwings (43897)
• Cambridge, England
29 Aug 10
Frankly, I don't know enough about Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, Blagojevich and the like. I don't know if they want my or anyone's forgiveness (let alone mine) so I rarely give them a second thought. Whatever wrong they do is between themselves, their Maker and those they have hurt. They haven't hurt me (or so I reason) so they have no need of my forgiveness and nor will they get it. Also, since they haven't hurt me, why should they also deserve my condemnation? Well, "no man is an island" (as I think it was John Donne said first). What these people do DOES affect us ... but only if we let it ... because they are 'icons' and 'in the news' and because many people (for whom we DO care) look up to them. Where ever and whoever they are (and, actually, even if we have never heard of them), they are part of humanity and, by definition, we should love them ... which means that we should, collectively, forgive them or (more accurately) permit, allow or ask that they should be forgiven by whoever is relevant to do so. We all make mistakes over and over, of course, and we all expect (or hope for) forgiveness from those we think we have wronged. Sometimes it takes people MANY times to learn a lesson ... sometimes some people NEVER learn (because they aren't really and truly aware that what they have done hurt anyone, even if it were only themselves). At least some of your diatribe should be countered with "Well, how much did these people really hurt YOU? ... So why do you think that you even NEED to forgive them?" (And I have been Devil's Advocate already in putting some of the possible answers into your mouth!)
@owlwings (43897)
• Cambridge, England
29 Aug 10
(And I have been Devil's Advocate already in putting some of the possible answers into your mouth!) ... or, I hope, into your head, at least.
@owlwings (43897)
• Cambridge, England
29 Aug 10
'Good on you, hardworkingurl!' (as they would say in Australia) ... and more power to your elbow!
• United States
29 Aug 10
Certainly none mentioned in my started discussion have hurt me directly in any way, and as I said in my started discussion it really was not about them. It is about people like them directly in my life that live like these people who truly have hurt me. I do not condemned, although I do get tired of forgiving over and over as I feel like I am contributing to their actions as they do not learn. I truly make mistakes but I certainly do not repeat them. One things for sure that when I do make a mistake I am truly regretful and I do not quickly ask for forgiveness, but prove to them that I am able, willing and capable to learn from them. See these people in some way do affect the way the world is today, as even if a person who causes mistakes, perhaps does not have the fame but figure if they could get away with so can I and by sense many do, as money buys hem out of taking responsibility. So now that I have cleanses my mouth out with your response, once again I am content that once I have forgiven someone and they continue to make the same mistakes then I have to just walk away.
@GardenGerty (169448)
• United States
29 Aug 10
That is a real issue. The other issue is, "Why are celebrities treated with more lenience that regular people?" You would not be given so many chances to make the same mistake. You would be in the jail for a long time. No news cameras bemoaning your fate. Maybe if they had serious enough consequences for stuff when they were younger, they would not be so persistently wrong now.
• United States
29 Aug 10
When I watch the news daily I get even more puzzled as how those celebrities get a way with so much. Each day I hear about one or the other I always make a quick comparison that I would have been locked up for a very long time just for being me. HA! I seriously don't get how people get away with so much. Thanks for responding and enjoy the last day of summer.
@shira0524 (482)
• United States
29 Aug 10
I agree with the other comments here, and I also think that some people just have an undying need for attention. Not to say they go out and purposely do these things, but they continually repeat behaviors that end up eventually getting them attention, even if it's bad attention. I'm also very sick of seeing public figures getting nothing but a slap on the wrist as punishment just because they're famous or can buy their way out of a situation. No wonder they never learn! All the legal system has taught them until now is that they are above the law and that's really not fair to anyone else.
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• India
29 Aug 10
To Err is Human but to make same mistake again & again is definitely not human. It is pure stupidity. If you learn from your mistake it is not a mistake but if you dont learn from it, its indeed the biggest mistake of yours. But this world contains all type of people and we cant help it. So There are people who keep on making the same mistake again and again and dont realize when it is enough for them. For them ignorance may be an excuse and may be they can afford making such mistake. But we cant do anything about them. All we can do is to leave them on their condition and not to get ourselves worried about it.
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• United States
29 Aug 10
Yes I truly agree, but funny though how they come begging each time for the forgiveness and then wonder why we are not so quite and apt to give them the forgiveness. Oh well it is an utter shame that people chose to live this way. I for one do learn from every single mistake, and try my darndest to correct and move forward. Thanks for replying.
@amorlife1 (370)
• South Africa
29 Aug 10
They are mostly just spoiled. They do it to gain attention from the public. The non-public figures that do this also do it for attention, although I think for most of them, ignorance is a big part of it. Also, I think a lack of education has a lot to do with it.
• South Africa
29 Aug 10
Yeah, apparently common sense isn't that common for all :)
• United States
29 Aug 10
Could be very well lack of education but then even the highly educated can make repetitive mistakes. I think it is more lack of common sense and or idiocy though. Thanks for responding.
• United States
29 Aug 10
Ignorance come to mind.
@lacieice (2060)
• United States
29 Aug 10
In the case of Paris Hilton, she is nothing but a rich spoined brat who knows, or thinks, her family money will get her out of trouble, and, for the time being, that seems to be true. But, the time will come when not all the money in the world will help when she hurts someone because of her actions. Let her try to say "It was a mistake" then. In the case of released comvicts, some of them just can't adapt to life out of the system, so they go back. There is a definition of insane that I like. Insanity - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. You hear this a lot at AA meetings, which is where all those spoiled wild childen belong, if not behind bars.
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• United States
29 Aug 10
It is an awful shame that people must learn after hard repeated mistakes, if only they could see after the first time then they would be much happy people and all those surrounding them. I have never wished jail time on anyone, but can you imagine Paris herself truly behind bars with the general public. Oh my God she would not survive and this is what someone like need to understand that there will be no second chance that's it.