Thank You GOP Congressmen For Looking Out For Corporate America

@ZephyrSun (7381)
United States
September 29, 2010 12:27pm CST
And sticking it to women once again. The GOP is against the Paycheck Fairness Act (PFA) because it would open companies up to needless law suits. Now, we couldn't have women suing companies because they are paid far less than their male counterparts for doing the same job could we? That's just so wrong. Women should just be happy to have a job right? They shouldn't care that they make 81 cents for every dollar a man makes. They need to just quit whining and be happy with what they got. What do you think? http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/careers/equal-pay-a-battle-is-brewing-in-the-senate/19652089/ ***warning the sarcasm is thick in here***
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@k15682 (300)
• United States
29 Sep 10
The GOP wants to pass the barefoot and pregnant act.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
29 Sep 10
Oh, I'd love to see that one! Then the people of this country would maybe see the Republicans in true form!
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
30 Sep 10
That's funny since it was the democrats who kept saying Sarah Palin belonged in the kitchen. 2008 was a great year for showing the true colors of democrats.
• United States
30 Sep 10
Can you point me to some Democrats saying Sarah Palin belonged in the kitchen? I recall quite a few criticisms of her, but that one doesn't come to mind.
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@trruk1 (1028)
• United States
29 Sep 10
That is correct. They should not trouble their pretty little heads about things like income. Let the men take care of things. On the other hand, this is not an isolated act. The GOP hates everything and everybody--except corporations and white, wealthy, christian males.
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• United States
29 Sep 10
I don't think I could have exampled the base of the GOP better than you did. 100% accurate!!!
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
29 Sep 10
Zephyr, I totally understand the emotions you've got going right now, but sadly, you're just eating up the tripe that the Democrats are feeding you. This isn't about equal pay and fairness and all that crap. It certainly isn't about a woman's right to sue for what she is owed. That was the reason for the Lilly Ledbetter Act. You can read about it here. http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/411/work-to-overturn-ledbetter-vs-goodyear/ This bill is about rewarding trial lawyers who are big supporters of democrats in congress. In your source you can clearly see the sole purpose of this bill. "It also removes caps on punitive damages under the Equal Pay Act." That means that women can now sue a company for $100 million if they want even if the pay discrepancy only left them making $2,000 less a year. Now I fully support having no cap on NOMINAL damages as that's money that the plaintiff is owed, but PUNITIVE damages are purely for the purpose of punishing a company and without a cap it leaves the system wide open to abuse. Of course removing that cap is a huge boon to the lawyers who profit off excessively large judgments.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
29 Sep 10
So what you're saying is that you don't think women should get the pay they deserve, but rather that they should get exorbitant amounts of money IN EXCESS of what they earned just because a male counterpart may have made more. In other words, you don't want women to get pay equal to men, but rather to get paid millions more because they sued over their unequal pay.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
29 Sep 10
There should not be caps taskr. It's so ridiculous that people would even say that. You think it's fine to just slap companies on the wrist for treating women like shyt? How about you take .21 cents for every hour of your life that you have worked and give it to a woman that is doing the same exact job you are but, for a smaller amount of money? It's only a little less than $6,000 over 13 years.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
29 Sep 10
No I said basically that companies should be held accountable for their illegal actions. Come on the GOP loves to punish crime with the maximum sentence (that's why I vote for republican judges) but, with companies they want to coddle them and hold their little hands like babies. At least a criminal doesn't have 50 lawyers on staff telling him that he's breaking the law. What's wrong is the GOP now against harsh punishments for crime? Cause if they are I'm not voting for those GOP judges anymore.
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@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
30 Sep 10
"Critics, such as the National Association of Manufacturers, say the bill is the last thing businesses need in a struggling economy." Maybe businesses should just lower the men's salary to what the women get. That way they would be equal in this struggling economy and there might be a little less struggling.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
30 Sep 10
You beat me to it on that one bestboy. Congress needs a serious paycut. Of course THEY are the ones who have to give themselves a paycut so that's just never going to happen. In fact they haven't taken a paycut since the Great Depression.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
30 Sep 10
We could just have the GOP Congressmen work for 79 cents an hour and see if they like it much.
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
30 Sep 10
Why just the GOP? Why not the whole Congress?
@BlueGoblin (1829)
• United States
29 Sep 10
Pay disparities are entirely the result of women's different life choices - what they study in school, where they work, and how they balance home and career. Sure a company might try to under pay a woman for an identical job but she has the right to take that company to court for discrimination. Women are far less likely to take dangerous jobs. Dangerous jobs usually charge higher wages. Men are risk takers, and that translates to higher pay.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
29 Sep 10
I also think women don't fight for higher pay from the start. I started a thread discussing just that. Most women I know take what they are offered when getting a new job instead of negotiating for a higher salary. I think many are uncomfortable "rocking the boat" and so they don't argue when they get a raise that is less than they want or deserve.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
29 Sep 10
I think the two of you are living in the stone ages. I worked construction for godsakes a "man's dangerous job" I climbed up on roofs of houses that 3 plus stories with bad pitches. Sure a woman can sue a company but, according to taskr they shouldn't be allow to collect that much money and that is just the most asinine thing that I have heard. Yes we should allow companies to continue to break the law and have no real reason to stop doing it.
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• United States
29 Sep 10
Blue, the problem is finding out that you aren't paid the same amount as other male counterparts. In many cases these corporations make employees sign documents that state that you could be fired if you tell people what you make. The level of danger in a job doesn't always equal the pay of a profession, and I disagree that men take more risk than women do.
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@crossbones27 (48321)
• Mojave, California
29 Sep 10
Its a messed up world, and I am just living in it. The GOP is just a mess, and seem to be doing their job slowing everyone down talking about nonsense. They only seem to look after their interests and not the future of America. Keep it do do birds and there won't be a USA. Europe's kicking are butt, and China's blowing us out of the water
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@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
29 Sep 10
Yeah, this also reminded me of Lilly Ledbetter Act that President Obama signed into law as one of his first acts as President. (One of the very few positive things that he has actually done.) The Washington Post presents some of the flaws in the bill. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/27/AR2010092705409.html Of course, reminding the original poster that the House and Congress are both controlled by Democrats would be redundant.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
30 Sep 10
You mean the House and Senate are both controlled by Democrats but unfortunately that doesn't seem to matter much and won't matter, regardless of which party has the majority, as long as they keep their archaic procedures such as the filibuster in place and keep abusing it. I doubt it will happen but I sure hope they change it in January, which is the only time they can do so. Annie
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• United States
30 Sep 10
Remember that's a two way street. The likelihood of it changing are slim to none. The Democrats like that particular power when they are not in power as well. They won't be able to do it in January even if they wanted to.
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
30 Sep 10
I think female bodied people should get paid the same and well as for suing the companies I believe it should be for the wages lost or the amount in which they where being under paid and the company should also be fined as well as they where committing an form of discrimination.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
30 Sep 10
I'd go along with that but, I think each time a company is sued over it the fine should become bigger and bigger since the same is true for any criminal.
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
30 Sep 10
More litigation...more regulation...Why can't folks just do what is right? As a woman I do not want a law saying "You have to pay Me such and such because I am a woman." Pay me the wage because I have the qualifications, not because I am a woman. I am sick of this nonsense. Do The Right Thing Because It Is Right! Shalom~Adoniah
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
30 Sep 10
Doing the right thing will never happen when those that are suppose to do it are driven by greed.
@Vladilyich1 (1454)
• Canada
30 Sep 10
I lambasted both my Senators and my Representative when I heard that (all are Republicans). I've fought for equality in the workplace for decades and I'm a man.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
30 Sep 10
Thank you very much! At least there are some very smart men in this world!
• United States
29 Sep 10
This really shouldn't surprise anyone who knows anything about the republican party. If you think for one minute that they are looking out for you, than you must be a rich, white, male. This is another example of how elitist republicans are becoming when they don't even try to hide exactly what they are doing. In the past they would have made up some BS excuse to hide their contribution pay backs. But, today they don't have to worry about hiding their true intentions, because they believe that voters are going to vote them into office no matter what they do or say. If you are a female voting the party line, but be upset when you are making less than your male counterparts. Because, that is what you voted for!!!!!
@K46620 (1986)
• United States
30 Sep 10
Thankfully that bill did NOT pass. Why do you want to violate the rights of an employer and an employee to agree to a specific wage rate? Discrimination doesn't violate some one's rights.
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
5 Oct 10
Yay! Yet another one who gets it! LOL! Thank you, God! And thank you K46620! Maggiepie "Life is hard. It's harder if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
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@K46620 (1986)
• United States
1 Oct 10
Those laws are violating the rights of employees and employers. Freedom of association includes freedom not to associate, for whatever reason. While we may find race discrimination by private individuals and companies to be morally wrong, we have no right to legislate our view of morality on others.
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@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
1 Oct 10
I'm with Taskr on this one. The Democrats use "feminism" and racism as two of their biggest political tools. I have not yet seen what you refer to re the PFA. While I do agree that equal pay for equal work is fair, I'm not sure of your source or its correctness. Lenny Bruce, a comedian, probably before your time, used to have a joke, "A woman's place is in the oven." As a woman, I still have a sense of humor and think it's funny, and I, too, have had to work to support my family. So, consider the source.
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
5 Oct 10
Ah, Epicure. Always wonderful to hear your voice of sanity, reason & wisdom (& KNOWLEDGE!). I'm not going to stay here; I just dropped in briefly to watch the conservatives here stir up the prickly scorpions. So much fun! They remind me of John Cleese at his most apoplectic in "Fawlty Towers." They're just so funny when they can't bully us any more! Keep it up! Now...back to the Real World. Hee! Maggiepie "Life is hard. It's harder if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
1 Oct 10
Republicans live in the past and as the continue to do so the world passes them by and they don't even realize that the world has changed. Telling a woman that a man deserves a raise and promotion over a her because he has a family to raise (the woman is a single mother) is not only sexist it's ridiculous. I have a sense of humor as well and I don't find it funny but, I must be a lot younger than you because I have no idea who Lenny Bruce is.
@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
1 Oct 10
Yes, zephpyr, you probably are much younger than I. Bruce was a pretty raunchy comic, whom I didn't particularly care for in style and substance, but that particular joke, I found funny. Because of your age the segment of history that is your "experience" is predicated on the age of "feminism/affirmative action" that still dominate liberal thinking. Again, I believe in equal pay for equal work. However, what the liberals have done in coining , and elevating to worship status, the term "single mom" is the political tool used by the democrats to incite and get votes through emotionalism. I was forced to be a "single mom" because of the unconstitutional ex-post facto "no-fault" divorce law which impairs the obligation of contract and allows those who do not wish to be accountable and responsible to their marriage vows and families to abandon and desert with impunity. If you understood that that was not possible under fault law, you would see why so many women went back to the workplace and left generations of children latchkey and raising themselves. For this, I blame the flaming liberals in government, who, instead of providing "work at home jobs" for displaced homemakers enticed them away from their children with the promise of careers deemed more important than child rearing. Although it is difficult on a case by case basis, ideally there should be a head of household wage earner for each family at base. Given our economy today, and given the fact that we continue to run after the almighty dollar that our Democratic government is blatantly robbing from us, it's no wonder we are so confused and our children are angry and depressed and vassels of our public schools and "aftercare" often run by teenagers. While neither "party" can claim perfection, the Democrats are certainly the most corrupt, engaging in blatant treason in order to win an election by installing an unvetted, unconstitutional person illegally in the office of president, to the detriment and danger of us all. And, notice how they will continue to rob us, male and female, of our hard earned dollars in order to line their pockets and force us into indentured servitude. And the monster-in-chief has stolen over 2 million of our hard earnd tax dollars to pay his lawyers to keep his vital records sealed. He was sued as a PRIVATE person, BEFORE the fake election, and should be using his own millions proferred by George Soros, various Arab interests, etc. who helped stupid liberals to commit treason. Republicans are no angels, but this treason by the Democrats is truly diabolical. You'll be surprised to see just how much the "world will change" under forced socialism and servitude, and your "unequal pay" argument will lose total relevance as your money continues to be "redistributed" a la dictator BHO and evil minions Pelosi, Reid, and the Democratic Socialists, and DNC.
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@mldsmd (38)
• United States
30 Sep 10
get a job people...while I can't stand the GOP...are the Dems really any better? They'll take the 81 cents a woman make compaired to the man's 100 and give it to lazy people milking the system anyway. We're screwed either way until someday we finally become a true democracy. oh btw, we're not a true democracy.
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
5 Oct 10
We're not a democracy at all. We are a republic with democratically elected representatives. That's why politics shouldn't be centrally-run, but local, as far as possible. Maggiepie "Life is hard. It's harder if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne