It is sooo damp today. My shoulders and joints are talking to me.

Oh no, I didn't think of that..Mine are planted downhill, if we get a lot of rain, they can rot, couldn't they?

If they're in standing water, definitley. If it's just damp, maybe, it depends on how much water they need versus how much they get. Other than spring and early summer when they're sending up plants, you can harvest them any time. After frost is best like you said, but if they start to rot, best to move them to higher ground. Native Americans were smart people. They planted in 3 places.High, middle and low ground. If drought, low ground works. If flooding, high ground works. Normal year, middle ground works best. Just check the ground often. Sometimes they rot, but send out a little knub and that becomes another plant and they try again next year.

capsaison or hot peppers, the oil of them or mint, the menthol from them . Mostly if you rub on as a topical. Ingesting, some people can do and some people can't, stomach and liver must be conidered. (tiger balm and Ben gay, all those rubs have one or both in them, but ben gay and other stuff often has additives that aren't healthy). It's been raining so much that there were flood watches. I'll have to check my sun chokes, when the water table gets high, root crops of all type can rot. Esp. onion and garlic. Have to check them, too. Luckily I have onions indoors. Take care

Ginger, right now costs a fortune. I keep hinting that my husband could buy some, but he doesn't seem to get to a spice isle. I wish I could grow it. The Asian stuff, I've tried to grow. The wild stuff, being a root, it needs less water than we have here. I may have to dig up my sun chokes soon because it's sooo wet right now.

I've gotten a day and a half subbing so far. The Doctor has told my boss that she should stay away from people for a while. So she cancelled working with me.

I buy ginger capsules in the vitamin aisle at Wal Mart, much cheaper. I know it works though, because if I take it at the wrong time I get the ginger burn. I have also gone to the oriental food aisles and bought the candied ginger for coughs and colds. Same thing costs a lot more in a health food store. In fact, I think that worked better on my aches and pains.

I can't take Aleve because I am allergic to them but do take Advils when I have real issues with my back and hip. Usually once I lay down I'm ok until morning. I do need to buy a heat wrap and see if that will help. Thanks for the advice.

When winter is dry and cold, I do much better than damp and wet. I hope the 30 degree swings during the day are done. Yes, the heat wraps are terrific. If you can get an 8 hour one, you can sleep or work. Another idea is above, what I wrote the person before you can be a help to some people, if not to you. Take care.

Sleeping bags work great for me, too. Got that idea from a Grandmother in an Arthritis magazine. Indoor sleepover that her grandkids wanted to have. They slept on the floor and she slept on the couch. Everyone had a sleeping bag. She woke up pretty pain free, so she wrote a letter in to let people know. It's wonderful. For my shoulders, I do usually find some kind of material that the air can't penetrate. Like bajas are a tight weave thing from Mexico or South America, etc. I am really, really in love with fleece, keeps me warm. Take care.

Yeah, a hot shower and moving work pretty well for me. Just woke up pretty bad off. Haven't gotten my sleeping bag cleaned yet. I really need a new one. Sleeping in a sleeping bag worked great for me until menopause. With a blanket, you can take on and off, but a sleeping bag. . ..

Tylenol is useless for most things for me. Joint supplements don't do anything for me either. Tiger balm, heat things that are 8 hour are great. I know people who set an alarm and stand up as well as walk around once an hour so they don't stiffen up.

Oh yes, it is funny. In nature, there are many pain relievers, probably for that reason. Aleve worked best for me, but it raises blood pressure. Aspirin can work, but it can also make my stomach bleed. Ibuprophen, really bad news for my intestins, I get blood from that, too. I really loved aleve. If I can get my blood pressure down, I can use it (naproxin sodium) again. Tiger balm is capsaisin (hot pepper oil) I think or is it menthol (mint oil). There are 3 levels of tiger balm. Mild, medium, and hot, so I think it is capsaisin. For awhile, they had the 8 hour bandages (like wraps, but time released) up here at the dollar store. I looked crazy going to bed, but they helped me sleep. The only tylenol thing that helps me is the PM stuff. I could just get nighttime sleep over the counter meds and do just as well.

Tiger balm? Interesting. I have tried the things you can wrap on a area and it heats up. They help alittle bit. Tylenol always have helped me where other things don't. Funny how different people are.

Aleve, can't take, naproxin sodium has sodium, my blood pressure doctor told me no. Bummer because Aleve worked great! Tylenol, useless. I might as well take a placebo. At least I'd get sugar out of a sugar pill. One time, I read in Arthritis Magazine while in a physical therapy place that this Grandmother had a sleepover with the Grandkids. She had to have a sleeping bag, too. The kids slept on the floor and she slept on the couch. Best sleep she ever had. I tried it. It worked great until dang night sweats from menopause. Dampness doesn't seem to get into a good one and your heat isn't taken away every time you move like under a blanket. I slept great! Tylenol pm, the pm part works to help me sleep. I hope I get done menopause soon. Then I can use my nice warm sleeping bag. If I can find my good one. I bought a cheap one, not paying attention,it was a kid's one and it doesn't go up to my shoulders and neck wher I need it most!