Update On "It's 5:22 a.m. And Something Weird Happened

@pyewacket (43903)
United States
November 15, 2010 5:25pm CST
I thought I'd give an update on that strange occurrence that happened to me last week about someone ringing my bell at 5:22 a.m. You can see the original discussion here that gives the full details http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2437342.aspx# To summarize, at 5:22 a.m. last Tuesday morning someone rang my bell and knocked on my door. I DID NOT answer it, but listened from behind the closed door. Someone was talking which I presumed in his cell phone how his mother had had a stroke and he needed money to get medications--he mentioned that his mother was in the apartment over mine. He also indicated that he had rung the bell of the super but no one answered even though they are early risers and would have been awake. I indicated in my first discussion that there are no 24-hour pharmacies near me, that the son moved out years ago, and it's just the mother and daughter living over me. Also he was clearly speaking in English, not Spanish which if it really had been the son of the woman upstairs over me he would have spoken in Spanish if he had rung the bell of the people next door as they are Spanish speaking. Anyway, the next day I rang the super's bell and asked him about it and if anyone rang his bell, and he said no. So today, I rang the bell of the super again...this time his wife answered the door and I asked the same thing about the whole situation. I asked her if she was aware of the woman over me having health problems and had a stroke (my super AND his wife are nosy bodies and know everything that goes on with all the tenants) The super's wife told me that this "person" did indeed ring the bell of the people next door and it was them that he was talking to in English, (so he wasn't talking into his cell phone)/ The people next door told the super's wife what happened. Well it turns out.....IT WAS NOT THE SON OF THE WOMAN LIVING OVER ME---BUT...one of the looney bins from the home down the block. You see in my neighborhood, just down the block from me is what is called the Queens Adult Care Center, formerly called The Leban Home...the place claims to be for senior and assisted living care. Yeah, right. The truth is, it's a mental facility of the "overflow" of severely disturbed mental patients from the "famous" Creedmoor Mental Hospital. We're not talking about people with depression, bi-polar, etc, but severely mental people who are dangerous and often aggressive. Due to the inadequate supervision of this place, the "patients" are allowed to roam around the streets at all hours of the day or night without any monitoring. Some years ago, for instance, around 3 a.m. every morning, one could hear one of the female patients walking up and down my block, yelling, screaming, crying--I later found out she committed suicide (oh yes there are a LOT of suicides in that home. Then there's this guy who I see every once in awhile in which I give a wide berth since he has a habit of lurching toward you if you get to close to him where he's been known to hit people. We in my community we have been trying to get this place shut down for decades, since as I said this Adult Center houses severely, mentally disturbed psychotic people--in my opinion many are either over or under medicated for their problem whatever it is. Even in broad daylight one isn't necessarily safe from these people, also, our wonderful police precinct does nothing either. So anyway, it turns out that the mysterious visitor that rang my bell (and the people next door) was one of these nutcases. The woman and her husband next door told the super's wife about it and had recognized him as being from the Adult Care Center. Now you may ask...how did this person get into the apartment building in the first place, since one has to unlock the entrance door to the building??? Simple, the lock doesn't work properly and anyone can get into the building and our azzhole of a super never fixes it despite we tenants complaining about it. Bottom line...I'm sure as hell glad I didn't answer my bell, not that I would have at that hour. And at least I don't feel guilty that the story may have been true and it was the son of the woman over me...since it turned out it wasn't. A lot of people in my previous discussion indicated that I should have called the cops, but as I mentioned our police don't do a thing to safeguard people in my community from the nutcases at that Adult Care Center.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Nov 10
Freaking scary. If they're going to have a mental health facility in a residential area, they ought to have darn good security. Meanwhile, your slum landlord needs to get that freaking lock fixed ASAP.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
16 Nov 10
OMG, Pye! That is horrible! Thank goodness that you were so alert! I can't honestly say that I would have been in the same situation. I think you all ought to band together and form a petition or something to push that landlord to secure the building better. We have a lot of crazy people wandering around our community also. Unless they commit a crime then there is nothing they can do about it. Even when the do commit crimes then they only put them in a home for just so long and then back out. My ex's brother is one of them and while most of the time he is a fairly peaceful person, he gets these moods and he is downright scary. He once told me that he almost went after my brother with a machete because he didn't recognize him walking into my home. Another time, he left a message on my answering machine. He thought I was doing his brother wrong and he threatened to cut me apart limb by limb starting with my feet. I just talked to him yesterday and I can see that he is heading toward another manic episode. I've known him enough years that I can tell just by the way he talks that it won't be long and he'll pull something that will land him back in the institution for a month or two.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Nov 10
It does no good to complain to either the super who kisses the landlord's azz to keep his job, and the landlord is a slum lord who does nothing for his tenants save for collecting the rent--this has been going on for years..also the landlord is vindictive enough that if any of us did complain too much he'd find some reason to evict a lot of us
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
16 Nov 10
I've had those kind of landlords. They basically suck. How about if you took up a collection and had the lock replaced and give everyone a key...including the brown noser supervisor you have? Just thinking of your safety. Its a little sketchy that these people can just enter the building anytime they want. I come and go at odd hours and this would just be too creepy for me. Are the locks on your individual doors secure?
@GardenGerty (157915)
• United States
16 Nov 10
There are so many laws that protect the rights of the adult disabled, that it is hard to get anywhere with legal action against them. Why is the state not doing something to make sure these residents are safe themselves and safe for the neighborhood. The next time something strange happens, I imagine that you will think of this first.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Nov 10
I have no idea why the state (or actually the city) isn't doing anything. That Adult Center has been around a LONG time, say more than 30 years and the conditions and the situation was bad from get go--all I can think of is that the management of the place must have a lot of clout and good lawyers
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@BarBaraPrz (45681)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
16 Nov 10
Thanks for the update.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Nov 10
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
15 Nov 10
Wow, that is scary. So no way to make your supervisor fix that lock? Or is he waiting for someone to get hurt first???
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Nov 10
My super is a number one "A-hole" that does nothing save kiss the landlord's azz to save his job. Many years ago, another tenant had a serious bad fall while going down the stairs to the garbage room...the super was witness to her fall and she sued the landlord...when it came time for the super to say anything in the lawsuit, instead of backing her up that she did indeed fall, he said he never saw it happen...yes I know, that's purgery but he got away with it
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• United States
16 Nov 10
One day something is going to happen and this super will pay..I just hope it isn't to you..This is why though I complain about my home, I am glad I don't have to deal with supers or landlords...
@cerebellum (3863)
• United States
16 Nov 10
It is a good thing you didn't answer. Isn't there anyone that you can report this to? If the cops won't help, maybe the mayor or some other type of politician. If they get a lot of complaints, they might help because they will be afraid of not being re-elected. If it is a home for mental patients they should make sure they can't get out. If you get the other tenants to sign a petition maybe your super will fix the lock, that is unsafe even if there aren't mental patients roaming around.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Nov 10
Our Mayor for help? Mayor "Doomberg" as we call him? I'm pretty sure in all the years that adult center has been there the various politicians have gotten a lot of complaints yet nothing has been done. As for the super fixing the lock...see my reply to the first poster
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
16 Nov 10
DO they not have a fence around that place. THis is a shame that they arent looked after better than this then to he place must be understaffed. like most of these kinds of places. SO glad ya didnt answer the door. and funn that he named woman up stairs as his mom. are you now sure it wasnt her son living at the nut house? THe whole apartment building shoud go to super all at once and demand the lock to be fixed!!!!!!!!
@rowantree (1186)
• United States
22 Nov 10
I'm very glad you didn't answer the door. I hope your door is extremely secure? Because next time, he might not just go around ringing people, he might decide to just kick in the door. If you had a heart to heart with the super's wife about how scared you were during that incident and is there any way possible her hubby could fix the lock, do you think that would help? If you mention that maybe next time the guy might decide to kick in someone's door, maybe their own door, maybe that might make her push for the lock to get fixed since her own safety is at stake? How do you think they'd react if they saw you taking photographs of the busted lock? Just for reference, in case one of the mental patients decides to come back and you need to hire an attorney... Good luck to you and I hope your apartment door has many locks on it! And a bar!
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Nov 10
oh my God pyewacket I am so glad you did not open your door as who knows what he might have done.I live in an assisted living retiremant center but they do not admit mental cases at all. thank heavens for that. I really feel that a facility that handles mental cases should not live in a residentual area at all and should carefully monitor the patients at all times.
@celticeagle (160064)
• Boise, Idaho
16 Nov 10
Ah,so you have a home for the very very nervous in your neighborhood. How fun for you? Do you think it will ever get shut down? You would think the authorities would do something about it. They should safeguard the community from such people. Sad they don't have better conditions for them.
17 Nov 10
Hi Pye, this is awful, I would never feel safe if I was in your neighbourhood, they should have high walls and barb wires to keep them in, I am so glad you didn't open your doors and your super should be made to do something about the lock in your apartment block, keep pestering him, I am glad you are safe though. Bright Blessings Tamara
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
16 Nov 10
It is a concern isn’t it? Severely mentally unstable people could be dangerous due to their unpredictability and have no place being allowed to wonder the streets and I am sorry your neighbourhood’s pleas to close this place down have fallen on deaf ears. It is usually the same situation; something terrible has to happen before somebody decides to look at what’s going on and making some much needed changes. My sister used to work across the road from one of these ‘facilities’ and encountered many disturbed folks and the police has been called on many occasions but the place still stands and these people are still wondering around...Your super sounds like a real azz by the way...
@trisha27 (3494)
• United States
16 Nov 10
Wow that's crazy then. Good thing that you didn't answer the door that night and given him money or anything like that. Thanks for the update.
@2004cqui (2812)
• United States
27 Nov 10
That's a problem waiting to blow! It's to bad it takes something bad to happen to get answers!
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
16 Nov 10
That is really scary. I always hesitate to answer the door for anyone - even maintenance people who I know - when its n odd time of the day/night even if my husband is at home. You never know about people.
@kareng (55617)
• United States
16 Nov 10
That's scary! I'm glad you didn't open the door and are "sane" at that hour in the morning. I can't say I would be! It's a shame that the cops will not do anything about this matter or your landlord. Maybe try some local media to draw attention to the matter. Call one of your tv stations and get a group to voice complaints about feeling unsafe. That may shame them into fixing the locks! Good luck!
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
16 Nov 10
I don't think I'll feel safe staying where the apartment security is lax. Especially when mental patients are lingering around the compound and their presence inside the building is a threat to the peace of the residents. Something urgent should be done to make the place safer from the intrusion of people with unsound mind. The law do not penalize insane people. It is the right thinking people who should put every efforts to guard their own safety from being harmed by this mentally sick people.
@lilybug (21107)
• United States
16 Nov 10
That is scary! I am so glad you did not open the door.
• United States
16 Nov 10
Wow....I supposed I'm easily rattled because if that were me I would be looking for another place to move before something bad happens. If they can just walk into the apt building maybe they can just pick a lock or break down a door. There are too many maybes. If you can't get the door fixed or anything done about the mental facility I would definitely keep a bat behind the door and some pepper spray on you. Things are just getting worse and it's better to be prepared when the security at that place gets worse, because it probably will. In the meantime maybe you should look into different apt building possibilities. Or maybe I'm just extremely pessimistic.
• United States
16 Nov 10
Seems like a creepy and wierd place to live near. I don't see how you would enjoy walking nearby that living center, as all your experiences there point to the fact nut cases live there. It is really scary to know your neighbors are psych patients, and to make it worse, having them ring your door bell at 6 in the morning is simply wacko. Your super should at least get the door locks secure. Try giving a reviews of the Super, and ask him more than once to correct the problem. This could lead to other problems down the road, as patients can become more idiotic as time passes. Have you ever thought of moving out, and finding a place far from where you are. I hope they don't come knocking again!