We are not allowed to babysit?
@macdingolinger (10385)
United States
December 6, 2010 3:19pm CST
i had no idea that you can no longer babysit in your home. My daughter just got a call from Child Protective Services and they told her she actually has to have a license to baby sit two children in her home! It used to be that you could keep up to 5 and that was okay, but now you cannot keep any (not even one)kids in your home without obtaining a formal license to do so! That is crazy-- big government taking away our privileges!! It's all leaving the hands of people trying to get by and going into big business hands! Were you aware that we cannot baby sit anymore?
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@sid556 (30953)
• United States
2 Jul 11
I used to babysit and back then you could have 5 or 6 and it depended on their ages. It was less if there were infants. If you are taking care of more than 5 or 6 then odds are you are running a day care and I get why you need to be licensed. Two children? You are probably doing it for your friend or a family member to help them out. and earn a little cash on the side. It's all about money. If you have a license then the government can keep track of your earnings and you'll have to pay taxes on them which means you'll have to charge higher rates to make it worth your while to babysit. Right now, most daycares are charging 10.00 per hour and my daughter only earbs 7,80 per hour so what is the point in her working? there'd be no point in her working. I take the baby on my nights off so she can work and a friend takes him for really cheap on the other nites. This is illegal now? The government is literally controlling us but ya know what, we allow it. I'd be curious as to just what the point is in such a law. So they can tax the sitter's earnings?
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@sid556 (30953)
• United States
3 Jul 11
I really need to read Animal Farm just once. Seriously, that book was on our recommended reading list in High School and for some reason I never read it which is weird because I heard nothing but good about it. I loved and still love reading too. I may have to take it out of the library as soon as I'm done with the book I'm now reading. I honestly don't see how it is protecting the kids. I really don't. As it is, if you are even accused of abuse and even if you are found innocent...that is noted on file with the state. If you are babysitting and someone decides to inquire about you, they will be told that you were accused and it was unfounded and you can decide from there. Your name is on file regardless of whether you are innocent or guilty. The worst part about the accused and unfounded is that they don't release details so if you really are innocent then there leaves a little cloud of doubt. The license requres you to have so much back yard space and so much space inside the home and it really does pretty much nothing to filter out abuse.
@macdingolinger (10385)
• United States
3 Jul 11
I think I remember that you could keep 5 without a permit. But over that you had to do the whole day care licensing paperwork - three-ring-circus crap! I think they want to collect taxes but i think their real monetary value comes from having to pay for the permit and keeping it updated. They say they are "protecting children".. I'm like - they should know that most abuse occurs at the hands of family members... they're raping us and calling it protection... we need to read "Animal FArm" again!! lol!

@buggles64 (2709)
• United States
8 Dec 10
I believe we can still babysit for family members. This has been the law as long as I can remember, and I don't think it has anything to do with taking away our privileges, but more of a protective measure for the children that are being watched. I use to run a licensed child care in my home, and the license doesn't cost any money. The government needs to keep track of who is watching our children, for safety's sake.
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@macdingolinger (10385)
• United States
8 Dec 10
If the license doesn't cost any money I will feel a tiny bit better about it. However, I have a problem with them being in everything.. so they are saying that parents are not smart enough to choose people who can take care of their kids!?!

@KrauseHome (36445)
• United States
2 Jul 11
Wow!! This is getting unreal. Anymore it seems like almost anything you try to do you have to have a license, or permit or something, and then they have people watching you like a Hawk. They say it is the Tax Dollars they are protecting? But with kids... makes you wonder. Do they actually screen the people watching our kids? When you continue to hear of so many places being busted for Child Abuse, neglect, or failure to keep the place clean, etc. it makes you wonder.
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@macdingolinger (10385)
• United States
3 Jul 11
Yeah, for sure. They say it's for the children's protection. like we believe that. Because if you're related there are no requirements whatsoever... isn't that crazy since most abuse occurs at the hands of family or close friends?
@moonchild1au (6237)
• Australia
6 Dec 10
Here in Australia, you can't really babysit unless you have a blue card whixh is like a police clearance to say you can work with kids...some people even have to have them if they are building something on a school property because of being in the same grounds as the kids. I guess it keeps most (unfortunately not the ones under the radar) of the sickos away from the kids which is a good thing.

@moonchild1au (6237)
• Australia
11 Dec 10
I agree that it does suck for those like your daughter who do want to help out people.
@macdingolinger (10385)
• United States
6 Dec 10
That's not a bad idea in general. Either a card saying someone can or some sort of signal stating they cannot work with kids. But it really sucks for those who just want to help some other people out!

@bunnybon7 (50970)
• Holiday, Florida
6 Dec 10
wow. this is terrible. i didnt know about it. is it everywhere in the USA? or just your state? or maybe i should look to see where you are but thought your in usa. @bunnybon7 (50970)
• Holiday, Florida
6 Dec 10
ok i see now, you are in usa. maybe its just your state. well, i guess teens can still go to their clients houses to babysit without a licsense, right?1 person likes this
@macdingolinger (10385)
• United States
6 Dec 10
I don't think it's in every state yet. Louisiana has no such laws, but here in Oklahoma they do now. You can actually go babysit at the child's house but you cannot keep kids at your house unless you are related. That is ludicrous most instances of abuse are relatives! You used to be able to keep no more than 5 without anyone saying anything but now you cannot even keep one.
@Pisces54 (49)
• United States
7 Dec 10
Unfortunately ,yes. I am aware that we can't babysit anymore with out a license. Part of it is due to liabilities. If something happens to the child we are taking care of then the parents will sue us. Unless we are taking care of family's children then it is a different matter. What I know is we got to go to classes for babysitting and then pay and get the license for daycare. And I think there is a minimum age limit for a person to be able to babysit. But I also think that if you are taking care of family or friends kids and they know that you don't have a license but still they want you to take care of their kids then I don't think you'll get a call from Child Protective Services.It is only when you take care of other people's kids outside of your family and friends that you get a call. Because somebody has to inform the Child Protective Services that you don't have a license and most of the time it is the parent outside of your family or friends circle. Also I think the government thinks babysitting is a business so when you get a license you will pay taxes on your earnings. And you are right, that is crazy.
@macdingolinger (10385)
• United States
7 Dec 10
yeah, someone called child protective services on my daughter. She wasn't aware of the issue at all. I guess it was a nurse that came out to check on her grandma. She was a butt anyway... I am getting less and less happy with the government... next thing you know they'll figure out a way to tax our air!
@GardenGerty (169479)
• United States
1 Jul 11
The laws vary from state to state. I do not know the rules now. I am sure it is more complicated than when I was licensed. I am sure there are background checks,, etc. The problem is that there are not very many standards home daycares have to follow and unfortunately children have been seriously injured and even killed in unregulated home day care situations. I do not like it that things have gone this way, but I feel that they are trying to protect children.
@macdingolinger (10385)
• United States
1 Jul 11
I am sure that their intent or at least they think it's their intent is to protect children. However, most abuse that happens is done by family members.. that's the crazy part. I think they are just making more money by making people get the permits and such!
But in the worker's minds they feel they are officers of protection.
@ladym33 (10978)
• United States
6 Dec 10
I did not know that. That is crazy. They just want to be able to collect taxes form people who do home day care now. It is good for the parents because they can put it on their taxes, but is stinks for the sitter because now they have to claim those earnings. Those earnings are usually not enough with just a couple kids to have to pay taxes on them,rediculous. I can see for 5 kids that is a lot but 2 or even 3 so not necessary. Does that count for relatives who watch their grand kids or nieces or nephews too?
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@macdingolinger (10385)
• United States
6 Dec 10
yeah, my daughter is only trying to help a lady out by watching her two kids or her. She is also making a little extra money. You are right that the government is wanting the taxes - they tax almost everything! It's amazing that they haven't figured out a way to tax the air we breathe!
@Youreyes4Today (2356)
• United States
7 Dec 10
I didn't know they changed it either. That is ridiculous, every way one can earn a bit extra to pay these bills that keep going up and up, the government is getting there piece of it.
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@macdingolinger (10385)
• United States
7 Dec 10
Oh yeah, they are putting fees and taxes on everything any more.. it's just crazy!
@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
7 Dec 10
I never heard of this before. I babysat my granddaughter for almost 3 years in my home without a license. I never heard of such a thing. No one ever said anything to me and this was when I was living in New Mexico. Its very scary that the government would be doing this to us and making us pay yet for another thing, such as a license to watch a child in our home. Give me a break. Oh maybe its ok for me because it was my grandchild not a strangers child? Do I have that right?
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@macdingolinger (10385)
• United States
7 Dec 10
yeah, it seems that it is okay if you are related to the child(ren). That really makes no sense as it is still the same in a lot of ways. Most situations where there is any kind of abuse sadly is committed by family! But anyway if you are related I guess you can watch eleven kids, but zero without the license if you are not!
@nangisha (3495)
• Indonesia
7 Dec 10
Hi Mac!.
OMG your country has so many rules
. Its make me wonder even a baby siting need a license. I think thats were to much and only give much more benefit to that expensive day care. I mean most parent will only put their child with someone they believe.
At here most parent who work put their child in their parent house to ensure their safety.
. Its make me wonder even a baby siting need a license. I think thats were to much and only give much more benefit to that expensive day care. I mean most parent will only put their child with someone they believe.
At here most parent who work put their child in their parent house to ensure their safety. @macdingolinger (10385)
• United States
7 Dec 10
You make a very good point! It's not like people are going out looking for a bad babysitter for their kids! It pretty much second guesses the parental choice!
@Demodulator (236)
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6 Dec 10
It's all about they money, licence isn't free for sure, governments are just looking for new methods to take the money from people. Or have there been any accidents that now the licence is just required that there would be someone who would be guilty?
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@macdingolinger (10385)
• United States
6 Dec 10
I really have no idea I just know they changed it a couple of years ago and it's crazy. People are trying to save on day care bills which are ridiculous! This is just another way for the government to be in control and make more money.
@Desiree1203 (75)
• China
7 Dec 10
oh, my god! seems everything is going to be formal; but second thought is is the government making money from that? yes, of course! my god!
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@macdingolinger (10385)
• United States
7 Dec 10
Of course they are! You have to pay for a cpr class and the license too - plus you will have to report that income on your taxes now...










