bad news for the daily drivel

@jb78000 (15139)
April 18, 2011 12:55pm CST
this columnist apparently thinks that tabloid writers are a complete sell out: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/apr/18/phone-tapping-victims-tabloid-hacks do you agree with the view that people who presumably started out as ambitious young, and possibly quite good, journalists who end up writing drivel about celebrities or misreporting important news stories are a sell-out? or do you take the daily drivel's view that we are producing quality stories, for people who WANT this sort of news, investigating people in the public eye who need to be shown for what they are, or at least what we plan to show them as, and anyway we are much better than blogs?
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
18 Apr 11
I have no doubt that there are some excellent reporters out there who are writing drivel about celebrities (and other popular subjects), simply because that's what sells. When I go to the supermarket or local convenience store, there are maybe one or two serious publications near the check out, and maybe 15 or 20 'Today's Drivel-type' publications. Columnists are people, too. It's hard to feed themselves or families on principles. Unfortunately, sensationalism sells. I wonder if any journalists writing drivel, later become respected journalists writing for prominent publications.
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
19 Apr 11
When they retire and write their autobiographies, than maybe we'd find out. And, maybe not. Don't you think that there's a sub-class of 'reporters' who believe that if enough people believe the lies, that somehow they become true? Just look at the stuff printed during any election process...
@jb78000 (15139)
19 Apr 11
where you draw the line between "selling out" and "writing harmless nonsense to pay the bills" probably varies quite widely. i am pretty sure that there are some respected journalists who started out peddling drivel. i'd hope their early drivel was at least truthful though - otherwise could be rather embarrassing.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
18 Apr 11
They sell their souls to Murdoch et al and this is how they have to make the payments. A friend of mine was once doorstepped by NOW "reporters" who were almost thuggish in their desire to get his story before another paper. None of them got it and he was reduced to a quivering wreck by these so called "journalists" whose sole interest is to make money for their papers and therefore for themselves. Rather like the paparazzi who wait to photograph "celebrities " caight unawares, these people take a story, twist it in the "public interest" and peddle it as gospel. I often read and hear that the tabloids are responding to public demand. I don't believe it for a second. The media had created our current mania with celebrity and are cashing in. We have been duped and yet cannot see that we are being manipulated. Long legs, big boobs, can't sing and Simon Cowell, and we have a recipe for celebrity. Such a shame when there are so many other things worth reporting. There are some excellent blgs out there by unknowns. Maybe they and we are the better for that.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
18 Apr 11
hi pikey like this silly stupid Lindsay Lohan who awas an a fairly decent child actress at one tmbut now believes all the crud written about her. I told my roommates when I was in the rehab hospital if I hear one more news item about Lindsay Lohan and her trial on stealing an expensive necklace I will puke. they all make it sound like everyones mistreating the poor silly fool just because she stole an expensive necklace from a jewelry store.I am supposed to give a flying fig for her? help somone not me has the brains of a pea. public demand mny hind foot. I am one of the public and I do not demand drivel like that a t all.
@jb78000 (15139)
19 Apr 11
we do. we made our conclusive evidence all by ourselves, very nice job. in fact i think it is time for the daily drivel to run this shocking expose again.
@tarachand (3895)
• India
22 Apr 11
Where forth art thou Freedom of the Press? Brooker just announced thy futility! Me thinks that Charlie Brooker or whatever his name and/or some of his friends/relatives/loved ones have been victim/s of sting operation/s. Maybe someone oughta do the same to the bigwigs of the Guardian. I am from the media (not tabloid, to set the record straight) and we never do negative stuff, but, we never run down another media organization or a genre either. Maybe someone needs to take a closer look at Brooker, the Guardian and the people who run it, the people behind it and Zap them and have them shut up? Ram em hard, you guys from the tabloid genre! get your circulation numbers up! There's moolah in em gossip columns and the Guardian feels that maybe its losing the money only because of thee? Yeah for tabloids! and yeah for good positive media! A big Yeah for Freedom of the Press! and bal(square)S to the Guardian and Brooker with a Boo added in, and a bigger one to Brooker! Now to the celebrities - well they are celebrities because of the public, so the public has a right to know whether a person deserves the accolades or the brickbats that it quite liberally doles out.
@jb78000 (15139)
22 Apr 11
just as your job is digging up dirt on otherwise completely uninteresting celebrities so brooker's is writing provocative columns. maybe slagging up tabloid journalists is picking an easy target but after a few months the man must be running out of things to rant about.
@tarachand (3895)
• India
2 May 11
Once calm, if you look beneath the surface, this pisspot journalist Brooker uses the same tools that he faults the tabloids for - sensationalism! For that's his notoriety. Check this link ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brooker . On consideration, you begin to realize that he is the Guardian's back door entry to tabloisism and that entity should then be ashamed of encouraging the very tactics that it is denouncing!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
18 Apr 11
I believe the bottom line is money. And people today BUY sensational stories about celebrities. Follow the money. We aren't suppose to think jb...just sit back and be entertained. At least that's what I feel is being told to us indirectly. Who's been voted off American Idol or Biggest Looser or Survivor is more important to the masses than who to vote for to run their lives in the White House or Parliment.
@jb78000 (15139)
18 Apr 11
the tabloid papers here at least are also pushing political viewpoints in with all the celebrity tittle tattle. the owners insist on it.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
19 Apr 11
yes, they make standing in the check out line most amusing.
@inedible (768)
• Singapore
25 Apr 11
If they're intentionally misreporting stories to mislead or illegally invading someone's privacy, then yes, I think they're selling out. If they're just reporting on celebrity news, then meh. I don't care about celebrity news, but other people do. As long as they're not making up the news, or breaking the law to get a story, I wouldn't call them sell-outs. I wouldn't call them quality stories, though. I certainly don't think celebrities are supposed to be good role models... I don't see why they would need to be shown for what they are.
@jb78000 (15139)
25 Apr 11
think you got that absolutely spot on.
@gladys46 (1205)
• United States
18 Apr 11
Hi jb ... to your first question, yes! But, I think it's important to know the difference between news reporters and news commentators. Most commentators are expected to offer their own views ... news reporters "were" supposed to report the news and allow the public whatever their view of that report may be.
@jb78000 (15139)
18 Apr 11
yep, i like the "were". i don't think news has ever been completely objectively reported but tabloid journalists definitely confuse reporting and opinion.
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@GardenGerty (157622)
• United States
18 Apr 11
I am in the anti tabloid group, I believe. Of course, if someone is reading the daily drivel, it goes to prove they are reading and they actually learned how at some point.
@GardenGerty (157622)
• United States
18 Apr 11
Silly me.
@jb78000 (15139)
18 Apr 11
not necessarily. some people just buy them for the pictures.
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@celticeagle (159227)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Apr 11
I think there are sell outs in every walk of life and every way of life. There are still some quality stories but alot of the writers are doing what comes easy and sells quick. It all comes down to money. I don't think they even care about the rep that goes down the tube or anything else.
@celticeagle (159227)
• Boise, Idaho
20 Apr 11
Not a good rep anyway.
@jb78000 (15139)
20 Apr 11
yep, you don't write that kind of thing to build a reputation, normally.
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@Angelgirl16 (2171)
• United States
19 Apr 11
I would like to believe what the media reporters bring to me via the television or other technology devices, but frankly I don't trust them to be honest. There is a monetary gain that is more important than telling the trust; it really is about the money these days.
@jb78000 (15139)
20 Apr 11
i think that is perfectly reasonable
• United States
23 Apr 11
I know that some of the media personnel are honest reporters, so I just stick with the network that have proven they are trustworthy.