Law Makers should debate in "tagalog"

speak the language - so that locals will understand
Philippines
October 5, 2011 1:49pm CST
Hello Lotter, It's not that people won't really understand but most people in the country speaks Filipino language at least. I have become self aware some how when Sen.Lito Lapid started participating in debate with regards to the RH Bill. Unfortunately, his views were more personal and some thing more of a common person would defense on against because of his wife's experience. to other senators, it was like a joke to them that they laughed at some occassions there. But the issue here isn't the RH bill but the capacity of the law makers to speak "tagalog" at least so that ordinary people will understand. we are no longer in the golden days where we are proud so much when law makers speach english int heir conversations, now it's boring. more people will be educated if they speak in the native toungue And networks should have translators to those who understand only their provincial dialects.
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@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
I agree that this debate should also be in "Tagalog" . It pertains to the Philippines' RH Bill and involves every Filipinos so we should allow that it be also done in Tagalog. However, i guess there should be an option as to whether they speak it in Tagalog or English, because some senators like Miriam Santiago, don't speak fluent Tagalog since she's more into her dialect . I have read about Sen. Lapid finaly speaking about his stand on RH bill. However , did really speak in Tagalog? It was not stated in the newspaper.
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@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
Yes he did. More like Taglish He was a little nervous and stuttered a bit maybe because of all the media hype about his line of questioning and the importance of his time at the podium. But it was a great big leap for the Filipino language regardless.
@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
I partially agree While Filipino (Tagalog) should be allowed, like you said, some Senators are more comfortable with English because their first language are their regional/provincial dialect. If it is absolutely necessary for the records of the Senate or House of Representatives to be in English, then the Transcriptionist should provide an English translation as well. Legislators not fluent in English should not be prohibited from representing his/her constituents simply because he does not have a high command of the English Language even if he has great points to raise. Sadly though, Sen. Lito Lapid's questions and message were not great. BUT he did help more Filipinos get a better idea of what the RH Bill debate is all about. And an awareness about the Filipino language and its use.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
So, sen. Lapid did it in Pilipino, after all. That's nice and that's a start of speaking Pilipino in the senate.
@tholitz (1127)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
Hi LetranKnight25! It seems Senator Lapid is not comfortable speaking even in his native language, or should I say in debating instead. The humorous atmosphere that he presented even before he speak had made the debate to be taken lightly by some Senators. Now going to your topic, I believe it will be good particularly for the interpolation and debate of the law. I believe this will not limit the debate to those who could speak the English language fluently but will give way to other Representatives to express their opinion and concern without the barricade of language. One of the Senators I really admired in speaking Tagalog is Senator Chiz Escudero. He could deeply speak Tagalog language continuously and expressively, and at the same time could also speak good English. Maybe our Representative in the House of Senates and Congress could take a look at him. Have a nice day!
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• Japan
6 Oct 11
I don't think the deep Tagalog really matters. It's their eagerness to win the debate and pass the bill! That's important. I mean I don't even think it's language being used. Because whatever language they used no one would want to give way resulting to delays in passing some important bills like the RH Bill.
@jaiho2009 (39142)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
hello LK, Well, I agree that they should speak in our native language. There is nothing wrong with it. We Filipino are known for our English and we don't need to prove how good we are when it comes to speaking English. So...why not use our mother tongue when in court or in congress. have a good day dear bro
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
Hello Jai-sis, there is obviously no reason for them not to speak tagalog since all filipinos or almost every one watch the media coverage of their sessions. It's hard to believe that we are known for our english when we should at least build our own as our language. have a nice day.
@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
I agree with you. Thou I understand that the Formal language of the Senate and House of representatives is English , Filipino (Tagalog) should be allowed and if necessary the transcripts should show a translation only. Filipino should not be disallowed. I guess the reason for this is still connected with colonial mentality. Sadly, some Filipinos still think that if they are good in English they are better than others. But the more developed countries in asia are proud of their language. The Japanese use their national language in their History and official communications. Like them, we should be proud of our language and the multiple dialects of our many regions. Gone are the days when command of the English language mean we are more educated and elite. The times are changing and it is about time that we should be proud of our heritage. Being a Filipino is not something to be ashamed about. It is painful to hear Filipino celebrities and legislators at that, try desperately to fit in and speak the English language. Being able to speak English does not make one a better person and more educated and intelligent than the others. While English is a useful language, it is not necessary for success. Time for a change of mindset don't you think?
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
Hello Shattered, The Japanese had a strong sense of preserving their culture and self discipline compare to us who easily forget our culture or part of history once we got a job and earn our way through. well, they just want to have fun and make a good impression while being interviewed, it's their choice.
@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
Well when they are being interviewed they want to impress But while it is painful to hear sometimes, I find it more acceptable over celebrities and legislators who do so. I do agree with you that in regular situations we should speak in the language or dialect with which we more familiar and fluent with. We do not need to impress anybody. Or rather, we should find the "Makata" more admirable than the English speakers who can't even speak Filipino properly.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
I agree that we should change such mindset. Yesterday, i got irked by a woman speaking in English, while she's being interviewed about the flood yesterday. Trying hard pa naman. Ordinary situations calls for our dialect to be spoken specially in our local news.
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@EdnaReyes (2622)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
When we say debate in tagalogthis would mean using the tagalog dialect which many of the lawmakers may not may not understand. Would you believe that the Cebuano dialect is the largest spoken and understood dialect in the Philippines? What we must do is to make a official language based on all Philippine dialect which is now very hard to do. Lawmakers do not come from ordinary family, most of them are schooled in private and English speaking school and it i still the English language that is best understood by them. It is sad state that up to now Filipinos are confused to what language should be officially used in our government and every day living. We don't speak tagalog but a new coined language derived from our confusion. Observe a ordinary Filipino or even a child, you will know what i mean. Here's an example. " Kumain ako ng burger sa Mall of Asia, du'n sa outlet na malapit sa entrance door". It is pure tagalog or pure English NOPE but this is how we speak!
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
Hello Edna Reyes, What should be done is that Tagalog and Cebuano Dialect, along with other dialect should be learned by the children so that they don't have to talk behind each others baack and instead talk to each other in different language but understand each other. well, it's taglish, but maybe you're right, english also get most coverage from different people.
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
I agree with your idea that debate should be in Tagalog especially this is the language which almost people here in Philippines can understand. .
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
Hello mhelsdelacruz, I've read that most language are spoken in cebuano or marawi in either visayas and mindanao. maybe that's probably why they are speaking in english because we are more inclined to understand english more other than different dialect. have a nice day.
@xtedaxcvg (3189)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
I agree that these debates regarding national issues should be spoken in Tagalog or Taglish at least. This will not only exalt our national language, but will also let our fellow countrymen who doesn't understand English, be involved in our country's current issues. I hope this gets implemented soon.
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
Hello Xtedaxcvg, That is very true and even though Lito lapid look dumb debating with the issues, he really caught my attention at that time and i love it because he forced them to speak in tagalog. besides, International Media aren't watching those debates, they only report to the bad ones in our country. so, to hell with their english speaking doesn't really make them intelligent enough. have a nice day.
@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
10 Oct 11
Thanks for sharing. I think so too.
@se7enthbird (8307)
• Philippines
5 Oct 11
for me regarding this RH bill it affects mostly the people who speaks tagalog more than the english speaking filipinos. the people who watches tv more are the people who speaks more with tagalog. the people who speaks english watched their news on the net or read it on news papers or read it on the net. so i guess they really need to debate with tagalog so that people can more understand it. you had a great point to when it comes to people who can only speak their dialects. if they want more people to understand and so that they can get peoples attention i guess they need to speak in tagalog during debates like this subject. just my opinion.
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
Hello seven, The networks should just put hire some translators and sign language interpreters, so that when it is aired on youtube or their website, there should have mor coverage of different people to watch. even the congress should speak tagalog even in their investigations.have a nice day.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
9 Oct 11
I'd prefer to "speech" in English but when arguing, or making a point, or debating, it would be best to be able to use Tagalog or my dialect, Visayan, or a mixture of those 3 languages. And most of all, I want our Miss Universe contingents to answer in native language and let the translator beautify the answer!
@visavis (5934)
• Philippines
8 Oct 11
I understand all law makers should and must know and speak english in other occation like outside Philippines (if necessary to speak English) but inside our country they should speak Filipino in all time because they are all working for people. Best example is Pnoy he speak Filipino in order to understands of all. Regardless of modern or new era the important is being a Filipino in words and action.. See most of the progress countries like Japan they are speaking Japanese around the world even I believe they can speak English but be nationalistic - what I mean?
• Calgary, Alberta
6 Oct 11
I know people are making deal out of him saying "fourplets" I really dont know why it has to be English cos Speaking English is not basis on a person's intelligence,some of the greatest minds dont speak English. TV networks are brainwashing our people by making "rich characters" English speakers so all people here will have that mindset,with that even our senate and congress were doing the same thing,.
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
Hello Captaina-Albert, I don't know why but probably this is what happens when they have nothing much to do. well, its probably because our past politicians before the 90s were good english speakers, with that some are trying to imitate those people back in the past. yeah, they are doing it as if they are showing intelligence. have a nice day
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
law debates that you heard speaking in English Dialect are only found in movies.... majority of the foreign countries speak according to their own native tongue (except Philippines) even in the Miss Universe and Miss Earth Pageant they all speak according to their own native tongue... (except Philippines) we will have to be independent and do what Jose Rizal told us to do, and not just dependent to American English Language... anyway, if a Filipino really like to speak English all the time here in Philippines, better employ and work in a Call Center Agent.... where big salary for the only capital is a vocal chord voices....
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
Hello Mantis, That's true they just better work in a call center if they just want to speak english or unless they are a diplomat or have talks with the US representatives or something. It's sad that we are so used to speakiing in english when we should have talk in Filipino. Have a nice day.
@keihimekawa (2009)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
I always agree on this part. I really don't see the sense of our lawmakers speaking in English if their own people can't even understand what they're talking about. Debates are made to create new laws and should be delivered in a language where Filipinos can understand since they're in Philippines :P If there are foreign news delegates around, then let them find their own translators :P
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
Hello Keihimekawa, I don't think it's even practical either to speak those language, though we have been colonized by Americans as a result to this, but they have chosen to speak in tagalog. even the President speaks tagalog, sad though Gloria could have speak tagalog in her speeches knowing she can speaks different Filipino Dialects. have a nice day.
• Japan
6 Oct 11
I like it when they just speak tagalog it's slower than talking English with obvious Filipino accent...it sounded weird. I mean if you look at youtube videos there are a lot of other races mimicking Filipino English accent. Besides if they talk in Tagalog the population can internalize the meaning of their debate better. On the other hand, it's also safe to talk in English. Imagine they would fight in Tagalog and they can use street language and gay language. I don't think they would use the formal Tagalog when they feel too aggravated.
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
8 Oct 11
If the RH bill becomes a law it will affect every household in this country. The bill tackle an issues which is very personal in nature that's why it's important that every citizen of this country should have a full grasp and understanding of what's it all about. You can't give that full grasp and understanding if the recipients can't or don't understand its content.
• Philippines
7 Oct 11
it's so annoying when the congress debates in english when all of them can speak and undestands tagalog,even our president speaks tagalog in hi SONA and i think it was broadcasted locally and in the TFC. why speak in english when not all of them can express their opinion fully or totally grasp the opinion of others who are speaking in english. the question is, are they broadcasting their congress debates worldwide?.is there really a need to speak english when they're just addressing each other inside the congress?. i think not.