The second boss of your office.

Shibham beta I have taught in colleges for more than 45 years, in education departments the bossism is less compared to other departments and offices, but therre are people here too why try to show and impose the bossism, i had a principal in 1988, he wanted us to behave like his slave, i never did, you know he spoiled my CCR, I had to fight in the court of law, respect can never be commanded.. Thanks

Simple mamu.... My Resignation Letter will be the next thing that I will be doing once I hung up the phone. Reason: I never took leave without Informing. And when I did so, I did call up and inform them. But I never got any such call as my bosses knew I am genuine asset to their Business and I am sincere. So if I was absent without any prior reasons, they always co-operated and waited that I call them and Inform. There was only one incident when they had called up and it was to know what arrangements I have made for my students during my absence.

My boss even doesn’t dare to question me then how can a colleague? I don’t have the habit of taking leave unnecessary, if I take a quick leave which means my kids are not ok, in that case I inform to the people over phone. Everybody knows about me in office so nobody can make any such allegations.

hi, if i informed my authority then usually no one cares to check about the reason of my absence. Though earlier i used to get calls regarding official work from different cities and zones because those colleagues were not aware of my leave if I am off for a day or two. That was part of my profile to take the calls so it never irritated me. And those were the days when i had to sent mails to a bunch of colleagues, including our HR, if I am off for more than 3 days. One single mail and you are not contacted gives a great satisfaction. May be due to professionalism none of them dare to shout / investigate in my whereabouts.

Hello Shibham, Since I haven't worked under any employer, so I don't really know how would I react to such a behavior from a colleague. Taking it to be a hypothetical situation if this is happening for the first time that in spite of informing to my reporting authority I am being questioned by a colleague irrespective of his or her age, I would answer them politely and tell them that I have already informed in the office. Next day, meeting them personally I would say that whenever I take a leave I always inform in the office so they don't need to bother about me. If that colleague intends to irritate me with this behavior again and again then I would tell him/her that I am not answerable to anyone other than my reporting authority and would deal with the situation as per the demand of the time.

Hi shib: first of all, I'm a very concerned & particular chap who does not like to invite any negative feedback or reaction in my work and do take utmost care upfront. If I get the same treatment as someone who probably may not be conducting himself responsibly or is casual, I feel terribly offended. To me, my integrity is very dear. And I don't demand it for nothing-I work assiduously for it. Of late, I have been having some really annoying standoff with my boss. He doesn't probably stand my upright approach to issues and somehow has been trying several things to belittle me. While I'm normally very sensitive in interpersonal relations, I can never take it lying down when people try to ride roughshod. Its simply not on. I would give everything to give my best but no one can browbeat me into submission with hollow threats. So I can quite understand why you have a valid reason detesting spying, shouting by some one who feels he derives natural right on being offensive on the mere premise of age seniority. He has to hear in simple terms: this is not on!

hi shibham shame on your colleague he or she has no right to bawl you out or act like your boss and phone you like that.I do not give a tinker's damn if this colleague is a lot older than you Shibham that person has no legal or moral right and I would tell said colleague to knock it off as tnis colleague is not the boss. tell this cretin that your boss knows why you are absent and that is all that is necessary. if this person keeps on heckling you report this creep to your boss Shibham you are just too nice so get a little angry here.

Hi shibham! If he is not the boss and doesn't sign the paycheck, I wouldn't feel like he had the right to call and question me about anything. I wouldn't be very rude because he is an elder but I would be very blunt when I said that it was personal and none of his concern. If there were others having the same problem, I might even mention it to my boss and tell them that you were out for a reason and you thought it was cleared by him but "whoever he is" was calling people and giving them down the road about their absence. If you really wanted to make a point you could go and ask when the older mans promotion would be announced. When the boss acted confused...you could say..oh..he's been calling people when they were out and I assumed he had gained a title.

Hi Shibham, when i was still working before, i always submit my leave form and wait for approval before i take leave. And so far, i never meet any kind of problem like what you had mentioned here. If i ever came across this type of colleague in my office, i will surely submit in my resignation letter. I am unable to tolerate with that type of colleague, who like to command their staff around. It makes us feels boring to work long in such a working place.

shiby, If he/she is an old one- I might give a little consideration. However- being an elder,they should set as an example. They should not shout -but talk through professional manner to be respected...duh!

Shiby - you are talking about an elder doing that to you. I too had an elderly person doing that to me. He had this fascination for typewriter. I lost touch with that contraption almost 15 odd years earlier. But he would insist that I leave the computer and sit on the typewriter to type those long legal documents. I was more than 40+ and my back used to ache at the end of that work, but the whole office would watch me doing the typing work even though technically I was not a typist. But the gentleman had a soft corner for me as well. He wouldnt let others be nasty to me. That however was not true with the many second bosses I have had. These were younger than me. My bosses had no affinity for intercoms. So everytime I was trying to concentrate on my work they would send these second bosses to me asking them to send me in, or asking them to fetch something from me. These second bosses never said boss wants something. They said give this file or where is that document. I guess my ego got involved once too often. Funny thing is my boss used to play politics. He used to ask me to keep the keys with me and control another lady. However, I could not afford to do that as I was in a senior position and had to go out of office almost every day. By restricting others the access to papers, I would only slow down the work. He didnt understand that even though he was very intelligent.

If he is not my supervisor, he has no right to do that. We are of the same position and age doesn't matter here. I can even file a complaint about him to the Human Resources for shouting at me like that over the phone. I have already asked for permission from the highest boss and my immediate supervisor, so no one has every right anymore to call on me like that.

hi shiby, Regardless the age no one has the right to shout someone if he/she has the position still he/ she can say it in a calmly manner not in a high pitch tone. If he is well experienced the it means he should know how to ask properly. happy mylotting

We should be very genuine and punctual. I used to be very sincere to my job. If I am taking a leave, I used to do this with prior approval of the concerned authority and the information will be there in the HR. And I never allow anybody to question me about my leave. This is not their concern .If we are giving so much freedom to others on our matters, such things will happen.So next time give a befitting answer to them . Never they will repeat that in their life.

Hiya sids, You are funny what you say what Spies are these then? Do they work for you all the time? I should have had them working for me instead when I was in the U.K. Wales was one of the best places I have ever worked but I did have to endure two People there as well quite nasty ones but endurable ones as they were full of envy they were all older than me and another one was the Sister of one of them and she was just a bit younger than me but I showed her nothing but scorn one Day and she backed off never to challenge me again. When I am challenged in that way I can get my back up like anyone else she did not dare tell her Sister anything as she knew she was in the wrong from the start.xxx

Hiya sids, That is how I feel deep down but I had to consider my Children´s welfare first and my Husband´s reputation as he was sometime a Head Waiter or second in command and attending very important People all Day long so I had to swallow it. One time I went to cry on my own and that is when one of the Girls said she supported me and did not know how I supported such verbal abuse but I said wait till you have Children and sometimes you have to swallow mud bad mud that is. But I felt so much better knowing that they supported me and that they really disliked the one who was always imposing they too were looking out for their Jobs you know although it was a miserable Wage as well.xxx I have never forgotten them either but you cannot journey back through time always but I send them my gratitude always as well and I know it reaches them someway or another.xxx

Hiya shibs, When I have been working I have had to put up with a lot of abuse because we needed the place to stay and sleep having a very young Son and the money to give him to eat and us so I have to say I did swallow a lot of words of what I was thinking rather than let it all out. When you worked in the U.K. before at least where I have worked you were not allowed to argue against anyone you had to make a formal complaint in writing and verbal to the Personnel Manager. Say if someone thought I was not doing my Job properly the Personnel Manager would talk to me about it he would not scream or anything like that because its his Job to make sure the Cog Wheels run smoothly everywhere in the Workplace. So in the Hotels I endured a lot from People but I also had a lot of support from others that did not like those People anyway and one Day they came and hugged me and said they appreciated me and to try and ignore those "other" People as much as I could. It was all very tiring as I was up like you very early in the Morning and Day after Day it can to be too much as they were always "in" with the Supervisor and I was´nt see what I mean?

I will never allow anyone in the office to shout at me, except my boss. But the boss must have a good reason for shouting at me. If not, then I would not stop defending myself until he realized I made no mistake. That colleague should know he's not the company owner and he's not the one giving me my salary. I would definitely tell him go check with the boss before shouting at me.

when the boss has approved the leave, what rite does this other person holds to question you. if i do get to have a call like that and if other one is blasting me like the way you just mentioned, i'll simply hung up. its none of his business and he has no rite to ask me like that. if his way is polite, i may tell him/her the reason behind my absence or taking leave.

I think that employee is not being professional in his/her job. As a professional, we should learn to control our emotions. If it is part of his/her job to check attendance, then it is natural for him/her to inquire NICELY about the reason for the absence. Of course, he/she may be acting authoritative because he/she gets away with it all the time. Somebody should tell her off. I know it is easier said than done. The culture in Asia upholds respect for seniority. Maybe someone from your office who is as old as he/she could speak to her about this irritating behavior.