Does It Mean As Much?

Valdosta, Georgia
January 3, 2012 11:10am CST
My dad sometimes says pretty mean things to other people because he is in pain all the time from his back. So when he says or does something mean he never apologizes on his own will for whatever reason. My mom always tells him to say he is sorry to whoever he was rude to. To me his apologies dont mean much because they came from my mother not him. So what I want to know is would it mean the same to you if someone tells the other person to apologize to you? Or would you rather them not say anything at all if thats how its done?
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@jordq7 (576)
• Philippines
4 Jan 12
Hi there LovingMyBabies!! I would want the apology to come from the person who offended me.But then he can't give any apology then it's hes lost not mine.I think if he keep on using excuses for him to not to apologize to the people that he offended more and more people will be mad at him and it will cause others to stay away from him.I think it is more painful to see people avoid you than to experience back pain.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
10 Jun 12
I would want the person himself to apologize too. Yeah he has lost a lot of people out of his life because of it. He will realize someday...
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
4 Jan 12
He's being rude I guess out of his old age and the pain he's having. He's irritated and his rudeness comes out to other people. I think he feels it won't make sense at all if he keep saying sorry coz he thinks he'll be that way more often. And if the person would say sorry to me just because he was asked to do so... I would think it's not genuine so it doesn't make sense at all.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
10 Jun 12
He is being rude but I do not find that there is any excuse for it at all actually. Yeah, an apology should come from the heart and if it doesn't I would rather nothing be said at all.
@Amanda81587 (3042)
• United States
4 Jan 12
When people are in pain or stressed out it can do a lot of things. It will definitely change their attitudes and make them go on about things they would normally keep inside. I think a lot of his Complaining and rudeness can be because of the pain he is having. He is very uncomfortable right now and uneasy. I would just cut him some slack and try to help him in any way possible that can show him ur their for him and he may change his attitude a little. Hope this helps!
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• Valdosta, Georgia
6 Jan 12
Yeah I guess it can. Hes been in pain for 15 years so he should know how to deal with it by now in a better way. My husband is injured too and he does not act this way at all.
@MaryLynn321 (2680)
• United States
3 Jan 12
Yes your Mother had to remind him to apologize, but as you said he is in pain. Your father might be the kind of person that finds it very difficult to apologize. Your Mother's is nudging him to apologize and with her help, he does. I guess it is up to you whether you think he is being sincere or not. I think when people are in pain sometimes a lot of what they say is down out of anger and they are not thinking. A lot of times we say things we don't mean when we hurt or when we are angry. I guess I have to say it would not matter who encouraged him to apologize, just as long as he did.
• United States
4 Jan 12
Like I said your father may find it hard to apologize, that does not mean that he is not sorry. If you want a relationship with your father and you want it to last, then you need to accept him for the way he is. Remember he is going through alot of pain. But, that is not an excuse for him to say rude or nasty things. Maybe sit down and tell him how you feel about things he says and how they hurt you.
• Valdosta, Georgia
4 Jan 12
If it was only once in a while that she had to beg him to say hes sorry I would be more okay with it. But he snaps at someone at least once a day and then my mom tells him to say hes sorry. I dont feel it is sincere when someone has to tell you to apologize because thethought doesnt come from your heart, its from someone elses.
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@inertia4 (27961)
• United States
6 Jan 12
I understand where your father is coming from. He is in pain and nothing feels comfortable to him. I also understand where you are coming from. He should just at least give a blanket apology. That way he could be sorry for every time he does it. Put yourself in his position and see how you would feel. I am sure everything irritates him because of his pain.
@inertia4 (27961)
• United States
15 Jun 12
I know you're right, but to understand being in pain 24/7 I am sure is not an easy thing to get used to or deal with. There is no pain relievers he could take for it? There has to be something he could take. But you are right. You should not have to be in that position.
• Valdosta, Georgia
10 Jun 12
I know he is in pain and has been since 1995. He should be used to dealing with it a little bit anyway... He should give some kind of apology when he has done wrong to me. I understand he is in pain but that does not give anyone the right to be rude 24/7.
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• India
3 Jan 12
hey, not a good trait, but some times we have to accept peoples with their actual behavior.
• Valdosta, Georgia
4 Jan 12
Yeah not a good trait at all. Oh I dont have a choice but to accept it from him since hes my dad.
• India
4 Jan 12
then you definately try to convince them that they do something wrong with other
@avonrep1 (1862)
• United States
3 Jan 12
Try to understand if he is in pain all the time some of the things he says maybe the pain he is in, so when it comes out it comes out hateful or rude. You think he would be more aware of his behavior but some people aren't that bright to realize they can hurt other people the way they say something. I too have back problems and when I am in serve pain, I can be rude and snappy sounding not meaning to be. I am aware of it so I apologize when I get like that to others. Like today I am in serve pain. I am not answering my phone because of it, because I don't want to have to apologize to anyone.
@avonrep1 (1862)
• United States
3 Jan 12
Oh and pain medicine from my experience don't work well, and they make people more irritated more than what they would be without the meds.
• Valdosta, Georgia
6 Jan 12
Yeah hes been in pain for 15 years now so I thought by now he would find a better way to deal with the pain. If he would just learn to say sorry that would be nice. When he runs out of his meds he is much much worse. Guess its different for everyone...
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Jan 12
hi lpvomybabies no it wo uld not mean a thing to me if the person is too callous to do his own apologizing.Being in pain is no excuse for being mean and nasty to anyone. I have had lots of pain but I did not take it out on anyone else.One can rise above one's troubles and be decent to others in spite of pain. I know as I have been there myself Sometimes we older people get the idea our age lets us just say any damned thing we please. well I just do not buy that. No wonder some dislike getting older if it means you turn sour and mean. A decent person is going to try to be his best to others at all times. Of course we all fail once or twice but to be this way all the time is not right and really being sour curdles your milk of human kindness. any way thats my take. I want my apologies from the person who did mw wrong.
• Valdosta, Georgia
10 Jun 12
It doesn't mean anything to me either. There is no reason he cannot apologize when he is wrong. I agree, there is no excuse at all for his behavior. He is grown and should know better. I agree, I want an apology when I am wronged because that is what I give when I do something wrong...
• Singapore
4 Jan 12
I'm pretty much a pacifist, so whether the other person apologizes on his own will or due to pressure from others doesn't really matter, as long as things don't get blown out of proportion. For me I would rather spend my energy on something more productive rather than harping on unpleasant things that other people do.
• Valdosta, Georgia
10 Jun 12
Well, it has been happening my entire life from my father so that is why it bothers me...
@MandaLee (3758)
• United States
5 Jan 12
Hi, I would rather the person not say anything if their apology needs to be coaxed.
• Valdosta, Georgia
10 Jun 12
I agree with you 100%. I would rather not have them say anything at all.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
4 Jan 12
I always hear about apologies from the heart. Or accepting apologies from people because it came from their heart. So, I don't think it wouldn't mean as much if it came from somewhere else -like another person. I'm sorry your dad is going through much pain.
• Valdosta, Georgia
15 Jun 12
Thank you Bounce.
@megamatt (14292)
• United States
4 Jan 12
I'd rather not want an apology that is going to be rather forced. If it means something, than it is going to come. It kind insults me that someone is going to apologize when they are coaxed into it. Also there are times where people apologize a bit too quickly for my liking, because those people really don't think things through and don't really mean it. If people are going to apologize, then as far as I am concerned, it is their choice. Granted, if they are not going to do it and they are satisfied with their rudeness then so be it. Life does in fact go on. However, I think that a forced apology does tend to insult me just a little bit more than no apology at all. At least that is my opinion on the matter.
• Valdosta, Georgia
10 Jun 12
I don't want a forced apology either. I would rather him save his breath. I think an apology should come from the heart and if it doesn't then save it. That is how I see it anyway. I agree it is more insulting than not saying anything at all.
@aghiuta (525)
• Canada
6 Jan 12
I do not like lies of any kind! So,no,I would not want a forced apology! It does not mean anything if it does not come from the heart! As to your father he should not be mean,back pain or not.I have a miserable time lately with my sciatica,but I refuse to take itout on other people.It is not their fault!
• Valdosta, Georgia
10 Jun 12
That is exactly right. It means nothing coming from another person because he ha too much pride to admit he is wrong. That is true, he should not take his pain out on anyone else.
• India
4 Jan 12
hey, thats ok they say because they are feeling pains and they are elder they can easily recognize their lacking and simplify them too..cheers
• Valdosta, Georgia
10 Jun 12
Thanks for your response!
@GardenGerty (157623)
• United States
3 Jan 12
I personally would not want a coaxed apology. I feel like people are letting him slide if they make excuses that he is mean because of his pain. I know people who are in constant pain who are also very pleasant. They make the effort to be pleasant, because they know that the pain makes them cross. I have also known people like your dad. If you accept that he is going to be mean it allows him to do it.
• Valdosta, Georgia
3 Jan 12
I completely agree with you and I have told my mother a thousand times that the excuse of being in pain is getting old. I think its exactly what you said, if he wanted to be nice to others he could. It just takes some effort which he could care less about. Apologies that come out of his mouth now, I just look at my mom and tell her thank you for the apology. Because I know where it really came from.
@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
3 Jan 12
Hi... I would accept an apology only if I am convinced that the person truly has regretted his rudeness to me... It would not matter who expresses the apology.. What matters is, the repentence of the person... I think your father has the issues due to age... Consult your family doc...
• Valdosta, Georgia
3 Jan 12
Yeah I dont think its heart felt if someone has to tell you yo apologize was my point. He has a steel rod in his back from injuries but hes on pain meds for that so there is no excuse!
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
3 Jan 12
An apology at least makes them think of what they have said or done. I would rather have an apology then nothing....
• Valdosta, Georgia
4 Jan 12
Well when its an apology that is from someone else it doesnt make that persn think about anything since they arent the ones that said sorry because they actually were. To me if someone has to tell u to say sorry its not because you want to its because their telling you to.
@celticeagle (159221)
• Boise, Idaho
4 Jan 12
I would appreciate an apology if someone was rude or whatever. This is something we appreciate in society. Your dad obviously realizes he did something wrong and should apologize. Your mom is just reminding him of his manners. I would give such a person a few points. He could have ignored her prodding.
• Valdosta, Georgia
10 Jun 12
I appreciate an apology too if it is meant and not done over and over again. The first time someone is rude or even the second time, yes it can be forgiven but when it is an all the time thing, it starts not to mean as much.
@jaiho2009 (39142)
• Philippines
3 Jan 12
Well, it doesn't mean a thing as well if he keep saying sorry and doing the same thing all over again. that maybe the reason why your dad refrain from saying sorry- because he knows he will say same thing again.
• Valdosta, Georgia
4 Jan 12
Thats true. It starts not to mean a thingwhen it happens over and over again...
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
4 Jan 12
To me ,i would prefer that the apology be given by the one who owes it, not by someone who says it in his behalf. The apology by that someone in his behalf may be accepted just for the sake of saying it's okay, but then the hurt feeling would still be there in you.
• Valdosta, Georgia
10 Jun 12
I agree with you. I think he should apologize for himself, not be made to like he is a child. It just doesn't mean as much this way.