Right to work State

@SomeCowgirl (32189)
United States
February 25, 2012 2:48pm CST
Do you live or work in a State that is considered "right to work". How do you feel about it? If your not in America do you live in a Country whose job conditions leave things to be wanted, so to speak? I live in North Carolina, and it is considered a "Right to work" state, so that means that sometimes job conditions aren't favorable but there's dang near nothing you can do about it.
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@celticeagle (189820)
• Boise, Idaho
26 Feb 12
Yes, I do and it has been since the 80's. I think it is idiotic and just helps the employer. I remember when we had unions and were protected. Not anymore. This law means that the employer can fire you for any reason too. The only thing you can do is read your guidelines when you first start at a job so you know the few rights you have.
@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
26 Feb 12
When I first started here the training talked about unions and how we should not go with them, if we have a quarrel we are to come to the company directly. Well I'm a bit nervous as to what will happen with my job but I went up and got another one straight away. They may not like me much when I tell them that I went and got another job, but the loss of employment there will only be sad because of the friends I'll leave behind.
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@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
26 Feb 12
I don't want to stir a hot pot, so I may not contact the BBB. Let's just say that I am not the only one who wants to leave and looking for other employment.
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@celticeagle (189820)
• Boise, Idaho
26 Feb 12
I can certainly understand that. I would contact the BBB. Obviously this place really need to come up with a better system.
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@GardenGerty (169448)
• United States
26 Feb 12
It has also been called "fire at will" if I am not mistaken. I can be fired for any reason or no reason, at the will of my employer. Of course, I can leave at will as well. We customarily give two weeks notice, but I question whether that is really necessary, because they do not have to give us two weeks notice if they fire us.
@GardenGerty (169448)
• United States
26 Feb 12
Around here most employers do not even check references and stuff anymore. Just your Social Security Number.
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@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
26 Feb 12
A friend of mine who worked there put in her two weeks but they only let her work a few days of it. She gets unemployment though, which is good. I am concerned about what will happen tomorrow, and worried that if they do not fire me as I so expect, that my telling them I took another job will cause them to fire me. It will be unjust but their right, just as it is mine to file for unemployment.
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@celticeagle (189820)
• Boise, Idaho
26 Feb 12
I think if we want to look good for our next employer is used to be a good idea to give notice. But then I haven't worked for about seven years.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
27 Feb 12
I've heard about this for AZ. My friend lives there and she said that it's terrible. Here, in NY, it's almost the opposite. If you want to fire an employee for cause, you'll probably have to go to court unless you make the person happy with severance pay or something. But times are changing and we may flip the othe way. It sure seems like it will be the other way soon.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
26 Feb 12
Well..I live in a "right to work" state and to tell you the truth, I'm ok with it. I am not a huge supporter of unions because I have seen the effects they have on companies. There has also been a huge growth in the job rates in states that are "right to work" versus the others where the unions control the job market..in the way that they control employees. Especially in Texas. I personally don't want to have to pay dues so that I can work nor answer to another set of bosses. It just seems too complicated I guess. It is not so much that there can be nothing done about work conditions. There are laws that protect the employees. It is how you go about these things that will get attention. I am in management where I work and there are ways to get things changed or done. Take care!
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@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
26 Feb 12
As you may remember, I'm right next door. I've not been bothered with it before, but just what may happen to me I find to be completely stupid. I was not on call, and if I had been I would have been happy to go in as I would have pretty much expected they would have needed me. It's not my fault that the schedule in the area where we put our coats and keep our lockers was not up to date.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
26 Feb 12
I think that is stupid too and a sign that management needs to step up a bit more. Is there an HR department there with someone that you can go to? Everyone has a boss and maybe if yours isn't taking care of their responsibilities, someone should be notified of that too. I am totally supportive of the fact that you should be treated fairly and with decency. I loved the way you said that you wouldn't be rude but you would tell them what you thought...that is perfect. A professional approach is great. If you can think of other times that you feel like you have been treated unfairly...write them down so that you don't forget to bring those instances to the table too if things are going to get bad. The great thing about that right to work thing is that they aren't allowed to give you a bad reference. If you have been late..that's all they can say...she's been late. They can't say you were a terrible worker or something like that. Hang in there..bad management is hard to deal with.
@bostonphil (4459)
• United States
25 Feb 12
I live in Texas which is also a Right to Work state. We, employees, have almost no rights in Texas. I do not quite understand the term "Right To Work". As said, employees have few rights in Texas. There is not much that employees can do if they get treated poorly in Texas. You can quit. That's about it. Texas seems to doing better than other states when it comes to getting a job. But that is because, the workers are paid so little and have to work so hard. I would prefer to live in a state where employees have really good employee rights and benefits but it is too late now. I am 67.
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@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
25 Feb 12
I've posted a discussion to kind of explain what prompted this discussion here. We have pretty fair payrates in NC, but then again it's so hard to find a job as well. When we can, sometimes it's taking the bad payrates. We can pretty much get treated as bad as an employee cares to treat us here, and quitting is about the best option from what I know of here as well. It's just sad really.
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• United States
26 Feb 12
It is pretty much the same in Texas. Southern states seem to have the fewest rights. I am in Austin and we have much work when compared to the rest of the United States and maybe the world. If you have certain skills, talents and education, you are in demand and get treated well. But other people have some sour experiences in the workplace. There are lots of jobs that pay low hourly wages, Lots! And those jobs are the biggest problem of all. We also can get treated very poorly in the workplace and there is not much anyone can do about it.
• Ireland
25 Feb 12
I've never heard of the term 'right to work' and it doesn't sound too pleasant. Here in Ireland at least there are many laws protecting employees and it's the same all over the country. There are several EU laws as well as Irish laws protecting us, so I should count my lucky stars. Can you give me some examples of the rights that might not be protected as a result of this 'right to work'?
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@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
25 Feb 12
I am not exactly "versed" In the terminology that I used, It was just coined at me today and I used it here. I can say, that what I mean by using the word is that employers can and often do things that aren't exactly "humane" but they can get away with it. Like we are only required atleast a 30 minute break per 8 hours worked, but the fifeteen minute breaks we have are luxury and thus they do not necessarily have to give it to us. I've got a specific example / situation happening to me now that I may start a discussion on in a few minutes.
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• Ireland
25 Feb 12
I think I get what you're saying. I look forward to reading the situation in a discussion if you end up doing so.
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@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
25 Feb 12
I think I will write the discussion as I will need the money and it will help me gather my thoughts.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
27 Feb 12
Not much and some jobs are unsafe and they hate Osha also can fire you with no reason but on the other hand you can quit for no reason. I think it stinksanother thing to they realy dont have to pay you over time