What ever happened.....

@celticeagle (160144)
Boise, Idaho
June 2, 2012 7:59pm CST
to family values? Today I have been working online today and watching The Waltons Marathon on the Hallmark channel. Seven kids and enough love to launch a battle ship. Teaching their children how to live simply and with character. Now days people have to have a cell phone with all the bells and whistles. Few people have gardens or really live off the land anymore. So many are selfish and self serving. No thought to our neighbors or to other people at all. What happened from the 30's to now anyway? The baby boomers, the wars, divorce sky rocketed, more marriage disolve than stay together. What's wrong with us as a society? And lets not even get into government. PLEASE!!!! I always believed that the first and most important thing was to teach our children the difference between right and wrong. Then comes being a good role model as a parent. And that is where so many falter. Drugs and alcohol. Divorce. Teen age delinquents. I believe that we need to make a differnce in our own family circle and by doing that there is a ripple effect that reachs out to friends, neighbors, etc. Do you feel that religion plays a role here. And the lack of it? I am an agnostic and I don't go to any church. Nearly to the point of aitheism. What are your thoughts?
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@GardenGerty (157946)
• United States
3 Jun 12
You can have family values without faith, but it seems that it is harder to instill. So yes, I think faith, not religion plays a role in our morals. I also think that a problem we have is that we all wanted things "better" for our kids and forgot how good it was to wait for things, and work for things and be proud of ourselves. We tended to give them too much, too easily and they grew to expect it. Then they had children. Some might say we fell apart when "Mom" went to work, but that is not always so. It is a hard juggling act though. You have to be really committed to do the hard stuff.
@celticeagle (160144)
• Boise, Idaho
3 Jun 12
I believe in faith in oneself. Working for things certainly does give a person a good feeling of accomplishment. But people now days are in such an all fired hurry that can't seem to wait for that.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
3 Jun 12
I have always taught my son the difference between right and wrong just like I was taught. However, things can be out of one's control. I am divorced, it was necessary. My child became a juvenile delinquent despite all my attempts to stir him in the right direction. My son dropped out of school in grade 9, I went to university and got two degrees. Life does not always turn out the way you wanted to even when you try your hardest to make it happen.
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@celticeagle (160144)
• Boise, Idaho
3 Jun 12
My daughter and grand kids all have mental problems. Bi-polar and anger and defiance disorders. No fun. And hope my grand son doesn't become a delinquent. It scares me. Life is an adventure any way you look at it.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
3 Jun 12
yes there are certain things you just can't control in life, wouldn't it be lovely if life could just be perfect, My son too has mental problem, defiance disorder as a child, and he still as an adult has issues. He cannot work because of them.
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@celticeagle (160144)
• Boise, Idaho
6 Jun 12
I am beginning to wonder if my grandson may turn out the same way. His mom is of no help and I doubt he will go very far. I just can't do it anymore!
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
6 Jun 12
Personally I have always wondered this one as well, and have wondered why so many kids are not taught RESPECT for their elders as well. So many times you see some of these kids grow up and they have no work ethic, they are disrespectful, and expect everything handed to them. I am not sure when people failed bringing up their kids but people should not expect Welfare to supply them a home, food, etc or for people to just continue to feel Sorry for them and give them a place to sleep.
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@celticeagle (160144)
• Boise, Idaho
8 Jun 12
Well, if kids have the defiant disorder like my grandson I can understand their disrespect. Other than that I just don't know. Kids that are spoiled sometimes and their parents are responsible for them until they are of age. It would only make sense to make them respectable.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
15 Jun 12
To be honest...religion has always been a tool to keep people in a certain place. For the most part..the values it is supposed to teach...for the most part I say again..are good values. I am not part of an organized group anymore..not like when I was a child..but there are things that I have taken with me and still hold dear. I think there is much more to any of this than a lack of religion though. I think that it is a number of things. I did just have a crazy thought though. It is funny how the worst thing in the garden of eden that adam and eve could have done was eat from the tree of knowledge. Wow. Knowledge bad. Interesting thought..I will have to ponder it a bit.
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@celticeagle (160144)
• Boise, Idaho
15 Jun 12
Religion is good folks that is for sure. Good role models are too and I think that one thing that really changed over the last forty years or so is that generations don't live together anymore. One of the best things in my life was living with my grandparents when I was small.
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• United States
3 Jun 12
Religion? No. I am Christian, and I am learning that religion isn't the answer. That may sound like a contradiction, but it's not. In the Bible, Jesus warns us to not get wrapped up in religion, but to focus on our relationship with God. In several places in the Bible, it also says that God's name is hallowed..which means that there is really no need for us to call him by a name. God is simply love. If we all lived by the rules of love, there would be no more greed, and no more need. God's kingdom is a described as a place where everyone provides for each other, loves each other, heals each other, and there is no need. That is why religion won't help. when people focus on religion rather than love, they get caught up in judgement, self seeking prayer, and rituals. This type of behavior leads us away from the kingdom of God. In order to get to God's kingdom we have to love him, love ourselves, and love everyone around us. I think the biggest problem is that we have created a fend-for-yourself society where we have forgotten how to love because we have to be self seeking as a means of survival. We have forgotten the rules of love. There is a complete list of the rules of love here: http://www.motleyrose.com/2012/02/rose-of-day-28-red-rose-love-is-always.html I fall short of these rules a lot, but I am working on it. I am praying that God helps me with this. I am also praying that the rest of the world would have a desire to live by these rules too, and that he would help them also. I firmly believe that if this were to happen, life would be better than it was in the 30's. It would be heaven on earth. I hope that others will join me in praying for this, because the Bible says that whenever two or more agree, it will be done. all I have to say about that is AMEN!!
@celticeagle (160144)
• Boise, Idaho
3 Jun 12
If human kind weren't so selfish what you say might work. You certainly make it sound easy.
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@celticeagle (160144)
• Boise, Idaho
6 Jun 12
You keep praying then and I would continue as a agnostic. Things will never change.
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• United States
3 Jun 12
Well, it's a decision people would have to make one at a time, and it would have to be an ongoing process. It's not like this is new information..it has been there all along, but like I said, religion has clouded people's view of the plan that God has always had for us...which is to just live, and love. Easy? No. People have been trying to spread this message for hundreds of years, but because of the greed that our religious leaders are driven by, it has fallen on closed ears. Nowadays a lot of people are offended at the very mention of God, and love has been warped into a twisted manifestation of lust and greed. I believe that can be undone, but I don't believe it will be easy by any means. I just pray that it will happen anyway.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
7 Jun 12
Dear celticeagle you are so right. I often wonder about that too. seeing that the younger people, raised by my own generation, are not polite at all, think they own the world etc. but sadly also these who had good role models at home sometimes dont live up to what they were taught. When you talk about divorce it takes two to tango and when one of them says I dont want to dance with you any more then thats it. I am a strongly believing Catholic but I cant make my husband stay if he insists on walking out of the door.......Many people are simply not trying but give up too soon.
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@celticeagle (160144)
• Boise, Idaho
8 Jun 12
And divorces are too easy to get. People get together and don't communicate or even know what they want when they go looking. If two people aren't atleast good friends there isn't much hope for their marriage.
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@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
3 Jun 12
I just thought parents should be the one who will start on this. First be the best example for their kids and be the first one to teach their kids to have fear in God and to teach right and wrong, good and bad. If all parents follow this I think no one in this world would be so bad like now a days.
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@celticeagle (160144)
• Boise, Idaho
3 Jun 12
If they would but they do not.
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
4 Jun 12
For me personally, I am thankful for my religion because it's also the foundation of my faith. I just can't believe on something without it being taught to me first. I see religion as like a do's and don'ts and without it, we never know how to truly exercise our freedom within a confine. And therefore how can one impart the knowledge of which is right or wrong when he himself has none to start with? For me religion is not the only thing to base our lives on. But for me it is very important.
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@celticeagle (160144)
• Boise, Idaho
6 Jun 12
I glad you have something that you feel is so very important.
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@jaimz19 (236)
• Philippines
4 Jun 12
The lack of family values is like a disease in our society. I believe that it should start at home so that children will have something with them to help them differentiate right from wrong. A lot of factors may affect our everyday lives but strong values are what keeps us on the right tract. So I encourage all parents and guardians to pls. be a good model to the young ones. Let's save the world while we still can.
@celticeagle (160144)
• Boise, Idaho
6 Jun 12
Good role models is where it is at.ut where do we get them?
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@telmesh (1793)
3 Jun 12
Humans have in general become as you say selfish and are not prepared to stay and work at something if it is difficult. They want things today because life is short, yes Mums and Dads have a share of the blame they want their kids to have the best and that they don't stand out as the poor ones that does not have the new toy. When life gets difficult and the new Mums and Dads find it difficult to get along they separate and move on to greener grass only to find that the new grass is not so green. The kids get all the new toys usually even if Mum and Dad are separated, so they don't realise that things have to be worked for. Communities don't work and play together and families are locked in their own little environment. You celtic don't need me to tell you what has gone wrong, you know as well as I do do that the old three musketeers slogan "All for one, one for all" is what is missing today. Yes life is difficult but if society works together there is a way. I am not religious but religion is a way of pulling communities together. Teach the kids life ain't easy, life ain't fair but together there is a way.
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@celticeagle (160144)
• Boise, Idaho
3 Jun 12
So you think it is more pride and laziness? Yes, religion is a way of pulling communities together, and country for that matter. But with a false hope of some hero coming to save them. I know better. Society working together sounds good but then the arguing starts and everyone thinks they know better. What of that?
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@telmesh (1793)
10 Jun 12
I made a long response but lost it in posting but did take a copy and will post it when I pass the 500 post.
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@celticeagle (160144)
• Boise, Idaho
10 Jun 12
I will be watching for that then.
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