Detangling fees at the barber shop

@Masihi (4428)
Canada
July 2, 2012 3:19pm CST
Okay so I took my daughter to the barber shop, First Choice Haircutters, it's supposed to be a discount hair-cutting place for those of us who are low-income...but apparently it isn't...but maybe it is. My daughter doesn't take care of herself and she's 8 years old, going on 9 this month, so she won't brush her hair, and I have to remind her all the time to brush her teeth and take her bath. Very frustrating. Her hair got big and busy like a mop so I told her she's not going to have long hair if she's not going to comb it and look after it, so I took her to the barber shop and they said her hair is tangly - very tangly and will have to charge a tangling fee...or detangling fee whatever it was called. Five bucks extra. Ouch. So I ended up paying $18 tax included for the hair cut, she looks cute, but kinda upset over that extra fee. Anyone else heard of it before? Sounds kinds new and strange to me. Five bucks just for getting all the tangles out...although her hair was indeed extremely tangly....
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@carmelanirel (20976)
• United States
2 Jul 12
I am not surprised, my daughter had long hair, yet it was so fine that even daily brushing wold cause a knot that I had to work out and when I say "work" I mean it, it isn't fun and I am sure your daughter didn't have a good time having it done either. Now, since I cut my daughter's hair myself, I don't know about barber shops, but this same daughter is a dog groomer and I think she told me once that if a dog comes in with bad tangles, they do charge extra.
• United States
2 Jul 12
Okay, by no means am I an expert, I mean I have to review how to cut my son's hair each and every time. I have seen your daughter and I wonder if perhaps by giving her many layers to thin it out will help. Plus another thing I forgot to mention is, I ended up investing in a silk pillowcase, silk helps prevent tangles too.
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@Masihi (4428)
• Canada
2 Jul 12
She has a few layers, but really I just wish she was a boy so I could give her a big old buzz cut, number 2 on the clippers type thing. I've never known that hair can be this thick, really. I was told that i had very thick hair but her's is even more thick than mine. I'm wondering how silk helps to prevent tangles? I do know that she needs to start brushing her hair, though!
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• United States
4 Jul 12
I don't know, I guess the silk prevents the hair from tangling somehow, but you are right, she also needs to brush it to prevent the tangles as well. I had a friend who had a daughter with super thick curly hair and she would have it cut short and it looked good, but unfortunately sometimes she looked like a boy when it was cut too short..Maybe you can threaten her with that, "either brush your hair three times a day or we cut it so short you will be mistaken as a boy" lol Naw, just kidding....
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@RawBill1 (8537)
• Gold Coast, Australia
2 Jul 12
That does seem like a pretty expensive hair cut for a child, considering they are supposed to be a budget place! My ten year old son is the same with his hygiene. We always have to be reminding him to wash and brush his hair and brush his teeth too. He wanted to have long hair so we let him grow it out but now he does not look after it properly. He had a haircut last year and the hairdressers said that they had never seen hair like it. Very dry and very hard to cut apparently. They spent quite a bit of time on him, but did not charge extra.
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@Masihi (4428)
• Canada
2 Jul 12
They spent a lot of time on my daughter as well, her hair is extremely thick and hard for me to cut. I wish it didn't cost extra in my case, so I guess I'm back to standing over her twice a day and brushing out her hair, it gets annoying and she squirms and yells that I'm pulling her hair, and I'm telling her if she wants to have long hair she'll have to brush it out herself. Maybe next time I'll make her pay for her hair cut.
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@GardenGerty (128563)
• United States
4 Jul 12
Before you could get such a wide variety of hair care items like conditioners, we had what they called "creme rinse" which detangled hair. You can take a small amount of conditioner and put it in water in a spray bottle and it will help detangle her hair. Once it is combed out, braid it.
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@RawBill1 (8537)
• Gold Coast, Australia
4 Jul 12
I have tried the whole "You are paying for it next time if you don't look after yourself" thing but it never seems to work and the constant nagging only seems to bring negative energy into the household.
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@echoforever (5189)
• United States
2 Jul 12
I've never heard of this but I do not go often to get a hair cut. Perhaps next time if that is a problem for her, use a untangling spray for yourself before you take her in to get it cut. A bottle of the stuff is probably less than $5 and lasts a long time.
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@Masihi (4428)
• Canada
2 Jul 12
I'm actually on my 2nd bottle of the stuff because her hair is so thick and if she ever gets her hands on it she just practically dumps the stuff on her head. I guess I got so sick and tired of doing things for her and I want her to learn responsiblity for her own self. My son was take care of himself and his hygiene since he was five years old and he's ten now plus he's neat and clean...
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• United States
26 Jul 12
This does sound kind of "brutal" that is some massive tangling going on for her. Sorry to hear that I hope she does not have a tender head like one of my nieces. She dislikes getting her hair brushed at all and when she has tangles it is almost impossible.
• United States
2 Jul 12
That is outrageous! I have never heard of this before. Hair get tangled it should be expected for hair dressers to get tangles out of people's hair. They shouldn't be able to charge $5 extra dollars for it. Places are charging for every little thing these days and some times it is for extremely crazy stuff like this is.
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@Masihi (4428)
• Canada
2 Jul 12
Ya I know but they did it anyway, I was pretty upset but there's nothing I could really say or do because my daughter\s hair was extremely tangly and extremely thick, it always take them a long time for them to cut her hair anyway. I'll have to watch out for more hidden charges, but at least they should have the courtesy of displaying it on the wall with the other charge lists.
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@Hatley (164168)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Jul 12
hi mashi here in the US that seems t o be a going rate, but never hear of a detangling fee, that is bizarre.hair cuts are no longer cheap even in the lowere scale places here. we do have Fantastic Sams and they are reasonable. too.my hair is tangly too as i wear it long but I use Herbal Essence conditioner and that helps untangle it too.
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@Masihi (4428)
• Canada
6 Jul 12
First Choice Haircutter's Salon is the cheaper barber shop there is around here, and it's $10.49 for a child's haircut plus the standard 15% gov't sales tax/provincial tax, then it was five bucks for the detangling fee afterwards. We use a natural shampoo but no conditioner, but I do have a detangling spray that makes it easier for me to comb out my daughter's hair, but still she's almost 9 and she should be taking responsibility for her own hair and hygiene. She didn't initially want to get her hair cut but after this it's been easier to get her to comb her hair - well a bit LOL
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@GardenGerty (128563)
• United States
6 Jul 12
I do not know all the right hair cut terms, but looking at her picture and knowing how thick we are talking about now, I would get the back cut really short a "neckline cut" so to speak. I would think the top could keep a little length and would look really cute over her short neckline hair.
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@mommyboo (13191)
• United States
24 Jul 12
I think you're talking about a sort of stacked bob and that would be really cute. It's a good cut/style for hair that thick, especially if it is unruly and gets out of control. The only thing you'd have to do would probably be blow dry it with a round brush so it would turn the right way - under. I think it would be wise to get conditioner and ALWAYS use it. Not using conditioner will make ANYBODY'S hair tangly and hard to comb. My daughter probably has HALF the amount of hair in thickness that yours does but her hair is long (down to her butt) and has curl and kink in it and if I don't put a handful of conditioner in it, it hurts like heck to brush it. I only brush it when it's wet or while blowdrying it.
@celticeagle (124391)
• Boise, Idaho
6 Jul 12
First of all I am not quite sure why you would take your daughter to a barber shop. I am sure that there are alot of salons that cator to young children. We have several here. I would find one of them. If they cator to women and children they may not have to charge you this extra fee. And, if they do, I would not go there again. My daughter and I both have long waste length hair and we have never been charged a detangling fee. At salons they have shampoos for women and children. I would thing any good product would help detangle the hair on its own. Another reason to go to a salon instead of a barber shop. I haven't heard of this charge before but I don't have any little girls anymore. All grown up and have a grandson nine years old.
@Masihi (4428)
• Canada
6 Jul 12
Oh it is a "Salon" so to speak, First Choice Haircutters Salon it's called, I just call them barber shops, their old name back in the 1950's LOL There's many of those salons and beauty parlours and hair cutting specialists all kinds of names ha ha. But ya, First Choice Haircutters do charge five bucks for detangling hair, I suppose. In Canada if you want a dry cut you'll only have to pay for a dry hair cut. Shampooing (They call it wash and style) will cost extra.
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@celticeagle (124391)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Jul 12
Is it really a detangling charge then or a wash and style? If the former I would say they need to use a better shampooing product. Like I had already said, we have long hair and have never been charged extra.
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• United States
2 Jul 12
I have never heard of such a thing before. In fact, a shampoo and conditioning is a normal part of the haircutting process as is having it styled after it is cut, and these are not "extra fees". I would think that the detangling would also be a part of the service and not at an addition fee. If you had to pay $18 for the haircut, then it really is not a discount shop as that is pretty much the standard rate depending upon where you live.
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@Masihi (4428)
• Canada
2 Jul 12
It's the cheapest joint I can find, and it was a dry cut,shampooing and style will cost extra, so the dry cut is cheaper. I think it's a new fee, or a fee that's not listed. I consented to pay for it because I'm hearing impaired and didnt hear her say the fee, I just heard her say the hair is very tangly, and that was it but she said to me remember I told you about the fee ahead of time and you agreed? then I realised she was talking about the tangly fee. Oh brother.
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• United States
3 Jul 12
I see that you live in Canada, so perhaps it is different where you live. In the US, I have never gone anyplace where the shampoo, conditioning, and styling afterwards were not part of the service, and there was no extra fee for these things. In fact, most places will not cut dry hair, because cutting dry hair is not as good and the cut might not look right afterward unless the type of cut is specifically tailored for a dry cut to get the desired look. I also think that they took advantage of your hearing impairment, although they probably did not realize they were doing it. If you explained that you did not hear and understand due to your hearing impairment, then it might have made a difference, although it might not have depending upon how desperate they were to get money from you.
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@SomeCowgirl (32254)
• United States
6 Jul 12
I have never heard of this before, it sounds odd. Honestly I guess it's not that bad as things go. The detangler's you can get yourself cost sbout $2.00, and then it's just their "labor" to get it untangled. Next time you go and she hasn't brushed her hair, stop by the grocery store and pick up some detangler, have a comb with you and just try to detangle it as much as possible.
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@Masihi (4428)
• Canada
6 Jul 12
I keep a big spray container of detangler at home so I'll make sure I'll have it completely combed out before her next hair appointment. If I have to comb it I will but still I want ther to learn her responsibility to take care of herself. Maybe next time I'll make her pay for her own haircut because she does get money from her grandmother and sometimes we give her money as well.
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@GardenGerty (128563)
• United States
4 Jul 12
I have never heard of this, but that is not a bad fee overall. Not the cheapest I have ever heard of for a child, but not too bad. If she is going to wear long hair in the future she should let you braid it and keep it that way. My daughter has her daughter brush her hair every day and they got to where they would do it together. My daughter will braid her hair if she wants it braided and my grand daughter actually says now that she chooses braids because it is easier to comb out the next day. She is six. Some days she does not want to do it. Some days there is a lot of rebellion.
@Masihi (4428)
• Canada
6 Jul 12
my daughter's hair just before her haircut - She has such a huge head of hair it took about 20 mins for a professional hair cut.
Actually I have to get after her to comb her hair every day. Like 7 days a week type thing. This is what her hair looked like just before the barber cut her hair, she was sitting in the barber's chair. Her hair is extrmely thick, and it was very very tangly especially at the very back part. Otherwise if she did have longer hair enough to braid, I'd probably do a braid on each side, or at the back (single braid)
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@laydee (12809)
• Philippines
22 Jul 12
Hmmm.. The hair-cute plus de-tangling is quite expensive if they didn't do anything with her hair other than cutting it. Did they shampoo? or condition? or perhaps they put some medicine or chemicals to stop the tangling? I never heard of that really. I only heard that in dog/pet grooming, but there's no extra charge for that. But if you say that her hair is like a mop, then I would feel frustrated de-tangling it hahahaa.. so I would probably charge for that as well! hahhahaa.. I think this is the main reason why children shouldn't really be put in long hair. Specially if they have thick hair. You'd be glad to hear that she doesn't have ticks and lice with that mop! hahaha.. My mom used to cut our hair when we're younger. Always kept my hair shoulder length or even came to a point of putting me on boy's cut. I only had longer hair when I learned to take care of it. Have a great MyLot experience ahead!
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@mommyboo (13191)
• United States
24 Jul 12
I wonder if things are just that much different in places other than the US. I wouldn't assume so in Canada but who knows, I haven't been to Canada since I was 12. The reason this sounds so odd to me is that the place I go - and even when I used to go to cheaper 'franchise' hair salons, it really didn't matter if I got out of bed and drove down there with my hair a mess from sleeping, no shower, no comb, no blowdry lol. My stylist has never minded if I arrived for a hair appt and I just came from the gym, or just showed up after I'd been swimming with the kids, or - like I said before, maybe I overslept and I had 30 minutes to get there lol. I have never and I mean NEVER been charged extra due to the condition of my hair. Now I COULD get an extra leave in or hot oil conditioning treatment which I would then pay for, but my stylist only recommends that if I get highlights and my hair is fragile and breaking or something. Like I mentioned in my other posting, she charges me only $8 for my daughter's haircuts and that includes a wash and condition, cut, blowdry, and style. I love my stylist, I hope she never stops doing hair and we never move away, because if either happened, I would be back to square one and unable to take my daughter anywhere to get her hair cut lol.
@theguy03 (185)
• United States
10 Jul 12
That sounds crazy, I've neaver heard of anything like that. Somehow I would only really expect that from a cheaper hair cut place. You should try some sort of cheaper chain place that will not charge extra fees for a haircut. I will probably never stop in that place if I ever see one for any type of haircut. Thanks for the heads up on strange fees.
@Masihi (4428)
• Canada
11 Jul 12
First Choice Haircutters is the cheapest chain, and most men's barber shops won't cut a girl's hair, There's other chains here in Halifax but are much more expensive, they charge something like $25-$40 for just a dry cut, that's not a wash, cut, and style - all that is extra. Oh well I've learned my lesson and will be asking about fees from now on, making sure I heard right.
@Cutie18f (9560)
• Philippines
4 Jul 12
You should have removed the tangles or cut them yourself. I think it is so easy to do this. I am not a barber or beautician but I can easily use my imagination. LOL. Kids are really like that. You need to remind them all the time to do such things.
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@Masihi (4428)
• Canada
6 Jul 12
Ya maybe I should've but I really wanted her to take care of her own hygiene. I mean she's going to be 9 this Sunday coming up, and my son has been taking care of himself with little reminding since he was five years old, so I don't understand why we actually have to fight with her to take a bath or shower! Anyway, she's getting a bit better, she didn't want to get her hair cut so it's a bit easier now to get her to comb her hair but we still have to remind her several times a day, though.
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• United States
30 Sep 12
I remember when my late mother-in-law and I went to get out hair cut there were two young girls who came in after us. The girls were getting major haircuts and since they had long hair and was getting it cut shorter the place charge higher fees for cutting long hair. The lady had asked if she could go ahead of us because she knew it would take a while. Since I did not know how I wanted my haircut and I wanted to look at pictures first I had said go ahead. My mother-in-law knew her's was not going to take long so she was willing to wait. The place I go to (it is called Great Clips) charges extra for shampoo ($3.00) and for long hair, but it is clearly posted and I am always told up front. When I was a kid my hair always got tangled and I would use a spray to get the tangles out. I also slept with my hair in a braid.
• United States
24 Jul 12
I've never heard of a detangling fee, I wonder if it was something that was added because the hairstylist was upset because you didn't comb out your daughter's hair before you got there. Five dollars is a lot for doing something that can be taken out easily with a good conditioner, which they should be using when they give a shampoo, which I assume they did. If you're not happy with them, I'd suggest looking around for a stylist school, and see what they charge for haircuts for next time. There's a school near me, and they only charge $5 for a haircut. I get the benefit of an inexpensive cut and they get the benefit of practice in the real world.
@mommyboo (13191)
• United States
22 Jul 12
I have never heard of such a thing - where do you live? My daughter and I both go to a salon in town that I started going to based on recommendation from a friend. She and her husband had been going there for the last like 15 years and she takes her son there too. My daughter is 8 and until I took her to that salon, I did not trust anybody to cut her hair. I have seen WAY too many little girls with butchered hair because some stylist went crazy and did not listen to the parent. My daughter's haircuts/styles are approx $8, I usually tip her a few dollars but it's still cheaper than going to the SuperCuts. She just washes and conditions, does the cut, blowdrys, and styles. I think the 'detangling fee' is bogus and I would complain about it. Kids don't always take care of their hair, it's harder for them to brush it out good, especially if it's long, and even moreso if it's thick and/or curly. If I were you, I would buy some spray detangler and leave in conditioner and have your daughter use both at least once a day after a shower or bath and while brushing/styling her hair. It will probably save both of you time and tears and help keep her hair under control.
@ladyhill (78)
• United States
21 Jul 12
I have not heard of it but I aint mad at them. My baby has a head full of that crinkly hair and if $5.00 is all they charge. Please forward me the number. I mean it takes the entire family to comb this child's hair out and I got to the point if she does not want it done, Baby don't worry, Mommy is not on it today anyway! Lol That hair is a job in its self
@wolfie34 (26789)
• United Kingdom
21 Jul 12
Strange, I have never ever heard of this happening before, admittedly I look after my hair and whenever it starts to get long I get it cut, average every 12-15 weeks, do they have a price board where the charge is listed and visible? Because this to me seems like they are 'trying it' on. All prices should be listed for customers to see to know what they are going to be charged! Additional prices seems very unfair and I wonder if that's actually legal? Especially for a child too! Maybe say to the child if she looks after her hair and it doesn't get knotted that next time you won't get charged $5 and you could use half of it to treat her as a reward for looking after her hair?
@eltobh (231)
• Indonesia
15 Jul 12
Wheeww..I have never heard of that before. Thanks God that I live in a country where many salons are very cheap. Here, in salons with middle range price, it will cost you around $5 - $10, and that is including wash, cut and blow dry. For $18, you can have a very good hair stylist, I would say. Maybe you can tell your daughter that you need to pay more bucks just because her tangling hair, when that $5 can actually be used for other things she like :). Therefore, you can tell her that next time she needs to start taking care of herself.
@Pegasus72 (1900)
11 Jul 12
Yes I have heard of this before but not until after they tried to charge me for using it, in which I didn't pay because they hadn't asked me if I was ok with the fee or not. This is why I brush, detangle, and then put my kids hair in a ponytail before we go, avoiding any extra fees. I too have a 9 year old with long hair and she doesn't always get the knots out, a constand battle. I also have a 15 year old that was the same way. She has long hair but has learned to take care of it. Good luck and keep plenty of detangler around. I also use Johnson & Johnson's no more tangles which helps out a bunch. You can also use a tiny tiny amount of VO5 hair dressing cream works like a charm and smells good too.
@shaggin (55370)
• United States
8 Jul 12
Well you were paying the $13 for the cut. Anything extra that they have to do they can charge you for. So since you didnt brush your daughters hair out and they had to do that and untangle it before they could even cut it I can see why they charged you extra. As long as they told you about it in the beginning I think thats fine. If they had done it then charged you extra at the end then that would have been wrong because then you might have chose not to have her hair cut there. Next time just brush her hair out before you take her to get her cut and it will save you the $5. I dont allow my daughter to go out without her hair brushed. She is 8 and I usually brush it for her.