Little Saigon ? but you live in Garden Grove CA.
@Hatley (163772)
Garden Grove, California
October 20, 2012 12:22pm CST
Some are curious when I tell them I live in LIttle Saigon as t hey knew I lived In Southern California. So how come I am saying I live
in Little Saigon? Because this is the settlement of boat people who fled from Vietnam war and the communists,. They settled here in Garden g Rove as they loved the warm climate. they Had fled literally with just the clothes on their backs yet they dug in and made shops and businesses and thrived. They are really good
'neighbors,quiet, friendly and very law abiding. there is literally no violence here, little crime, we never see aq lot of police cars
here.To make this a discussion, have you ever seen people from other
countries come to where you live, make a thriving little village
and still be accepted by your own people? your take fellow
my
lotters. 

lotters. 4 people like this
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@changjiangzhibin89 (17244)
• China
21 Oct 12
It is great they have stood on their own feet and become rich through hard work.I wonder if they have got the green cards and have ever been in trouble with immigration office due to having no green card.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Oct 12
hi chang no as they came here as guests of the Un when the reds literally drove them out of Vietnam with literally nothing but the
clothes on their backs.so what they have accomplished has been like a miracle.I am really amazed at what they have been able to do here.Also they all have learned to speak good English and even their own children are taught English also,



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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Nov 12
hi chang yes they wanted this so bad and they worked for it and made it work for them. now they are prosperous in a free country and my US is still a g reat country no matter what.
@changjiangzhibin89 (17244)
• China
23 Oct 12
Poverty gives rise to a desire for change.It shows that no amount of difficulty can stop them from going ahead as long as people persist in do something.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
20 Oct 12
I have seen many neighborhoods settled by people from the East. In fact, I went through a place I lived back in the 60s and it had a sad tale to tell. Vietnamese and Laotians moved in in the 70's and the place thrived, was respectable and practically crime free and lovely. Then all of a sudden they moved out, as if they'd received a notice. The neighborhood is now mostly populated by illegal immigrants and it is a cesspool. I was brokenhearted.
I've noticed that the places in which legal immigrants live are mostly wonderful, prideful places whereas the ones where illegal aliens live generally have high crime, are junky and run down. I would like to see more legal immigrants, not to make that the main point of my reply but to point out that people often appreciate that which they earn and work for. The rest of us should take a lesson from the Laotians, Vietnamese, Sudanese, Indians and all the other legal immigrants that value their families above all and take pride in their property and accomplishments.
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@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
20 Oct 12
Yes I agree. People from other countries that come here legally will often make their futures bright. The appreciate what they have worked for.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Oct 12
hi pointlessQuestions and dragon54u yes the illegal mexicans here in California mostly slid intoSanta Ana and now we call it sewageAna as the streets are filthy, most Caucasians businesses moved out,stores are empty, nobody cleans the streets and in the living neighborhoods its not safe for anyone not Mexican to be at all.each night Mexican gangs go out shooting other gang members in drive by shootings'and often women and children walking on the streets are
the ones who are shot. I am glad that the illegals did not come here in to Garden Grove as usually wherever they live becomes gruddy and dirty and crime is super high. now those who come here legally are altogether different.The Vietnamese especially are so different. the streets here are clean and tidy. most are rentals but the lawns are green and flowers are flourishing and the people really seem happy.
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@Loverbear (4918)
• United States
20 Oct 12
I lived in Thailand for 9 months back in 1973. I loved every minute of the experience. I found the SEA (South East Asian) people to be very considerate, polite, loving, giving and protective people you could find. I traveled all over the country alone and NEVER worried about my safety. This was the case all over SEA. As I have said many times I would move back to Thailand in a heartbeat if I had the money.
Because of their religious beliefs, the people are very non violent and very giving. They are there for you if you're ill or in trouble...and don't hesitate to help take care of you. If they steal from you the one and only reason is because their family needs the food. I rode in samilars constantly ((they are three wheeled bicycles with a seat in the back for the passenger) and I always had a piece of fruit or some sort of food for the "driver". I rapidly became a favorite passenger with the drivers because I didn't act like I was a rich person doing the drivers a favor, I treated them as an equal that I was giving lunch to because we couldn't meet at a diner. Whenever I had problems with the Americans, it was a Thai that helped me out...and more often it was a samilar driver that was there for me.
Their work code is also extremely different than the Americans, especially since their wages were all of five bhat (cents) an hour. The higher paid Thais received 7 bhat an hour (thirty five cents), they were working for the American government in various positions. The other Thais not only worked in various positions in the outside but they would also collect what we consider trash to recycle. Also because of the economy of the country they didn't have the luxury of placing their elderly in "homes" or having the medical care for their special needs children. I would see hydrosyphallic (that's water on the brain with no way to drain..we, normally, have that fluid go through our system and we eliminate the excess fluid through our bodily excretions.) children cradled in their mother's arms, the baby's heads were three times larger than the average adult's. My respect for the Asians knows no boundaries.
Unfortunately as a country, we still hold bad feelings towards the Asians. It is wonderful that there are people that can open their hearts and minds to Asians after the war in the Pacific. It is also incredible that we can embrace and appreciate their way of life. It is rather unusual that it is noticed that a particular neighborhood is kept free of violence, the friendliness, their quietness, and their hard work...especially because of the American way of life. Because the Asians are foreigners, we expect the total opposite of what they actually are. Like with any nationality we should show the intelligence and compassion to wait and make the assessment of the person on what they are on the inside rather than the packaging on the outside. It is like a present. I often find that many of the gifts I receive are beautifully wrapped and look like they will be something wonderful and they turn out to be a horrible gift. Then you receive a package that is wrapped horribly and is very ugly on the outside and the inside turns out to be the most wonderful thing in the world! It would be incredible if everyone in the world had the powers of observation that you have! If we all could set aside our preconceived notions and open our hearts and minds to others, maybe we could create a world that has more understanding, compassion, and willingness to compromise with each other. If this happens, maybe we can eventually eliminate wars all together.
Sorry that I got so long winded, but Asian people are one of the peoples that fascinate me and are very close to my heart.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Oct 12
hi loverbear I also have seen that Asian p eople even here in the US are kindly people and educated. I worked with an A sian mom who got dreadfully upset that her little boy was only making B pluses when He had made As and the little girl was still making all As. I have nothing but admiration for the Asains people I have met there in C alifornia. I have had others from Thailand tell me how wonderful the Thailand people are. It has made me wish I had the funds t o travel to Thailand.
I loved your response its not too'long but informative. Thats a shame about the babies with water on
the brain . As a nurses aide as a young woman i have seen children here beinng taken care of tor that horrid malady.
while our cost of medical help has skyrocketed we still are
really lucky compared to other countries where children are 'not treated for water on the brain and all other maladies
being here on mylot and makibg friends with others all ove the world has made me become much more compassionate myself.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
21 Oct 12
There has been a surge in immigrants in my area over the past few years. There are certain areas where the businesses there look like the country they are from. I can't say that they have been accepted by everyone in the community though. There are a lot of people very upset by their presence. I would like to see this "Little Saigon" that you refer to. It sounds charming.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
22 Oct 12
We live in Central Kentucky and just over twenty years ago, Toyota moved into the county north of us for their first major production plant in the United States. Before they started to move in, we were educated at school about the differences between ourselves and Japanese people. Well, there isn't a Japanese community anywhere around her per se, however I do think that having this cultural diversity added to our area all those years ago has really made this area a better place to live.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Nov 12
hi dorannmwin yes I do agree when we Amerians are introduced to immigrants of other countries and we accept them in our midst it is really good for the community. I grew up in South Dakota and went to school with finish
and Norwegian and Swedish kids as well as some Russian and German kids and we all got along pretty well as children if not warped b y parents biases will
accept other nationalities quite well.




@sishy7 (27166)
• Australia
21 Oct 12
I frequent an Asian village here mostly because I like to eat different types of food from different countries. I can find food from Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, Philippine, Thai, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, China, and India all in one place. I also like the atmosphere of eating there; it's a big food court with many long benches, kind of like a hawker type place. The vendors are very friendly; and families as well as singles or couples seem to enjoy eating together sometimes on same tables. As I frequent the place, I actually make friends with the vendors and other regulars.
@GardenGerty (169585)
• United States
21 Oct 12
A couple of situations come to my mind. I did this post earlier and as I hit "post response" the lights flickered and it went into nothingness. Not MyLot's fault, but it was because of the wind I think.
First thing, in the history of our country, many times we have had influx from various European countries. Sometimes, like for the Irish, it was the potato famine. My husband comes from a Finlander background. Often the younger sons in a family came to the new world, because the inheritance went to the oldest son. People from Finland found that the Upper Peninsula of Michigan reminded them of home. They were good at mining and harvesting lumber and so that is what they did. I also think of the German Mennonites, who had originally settled in Russia, and been promised immunity from conscription. As time went on, the government began to require them to serve in the army. They left,and came to America, where they would be allowed to register as conscientious objectors, and work alternative duty. These immigrants brought Hard Red Winter Wheat and settled in Kansas and Nebraska. The flour from this wheat makes excellent breads.They were sometimes discriminated against because of their beliefs. Some served in alternative services. Sometimes their spouses lost their jobs because the husbands would not serve. In the past I knew people who had this happen, but through hard work they still flourished.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Oct 12
hi GardenGrove oh my you brought back memories we had a large colony of Mennonitesoutside of Rapid ity South Dakota ,my home state, I remember seeing them with their buggies and the men
'in big black hats and the women in long skirts. they were friendly
and interesting to talk to too.their farms were outstanding and like other Germans who came to south Dakota their farms really thrived and I guess they liked our cold winters too.we also had a large number of Finish and Norwegiian people who seemed to like South Dakota. I went to school in a mixed
group of kids and we all got along well.if parents are not biased the kids will not be either I think.

group of kids and we all got along well.if parents are not biased the kids will not be either I think.

@allen0187 (59827)
• Philippines
28 Oct 12
hi there hatley.
here in my country there are a lot of foreigners who have settled in. in the capital city of manila, there is a place called chinatown and there are a lot of chinese settlers here. there is also a huge community of koreans as well in various parts of the country. aside from that there are also american, british, and german communities.
i think, nowadays, people from different cultures and countries are able to live amicably. sure, there are differences, but these differences are embraced and accepted openly. it is a known fact that there are thriving filipino communities in most countries around the world so i see this as a very good thing.
cheers and happy mylotting!!!



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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Nov 12
hi allen I think its just outsstaninly wonderful as we need to overcome the bigoty
of a few people and here in Little Saigon most everyone does accept and even be friendly withe the Vietnamese and s outhern Californians can be very accepting or
'very unaccepting so its good that we all get along well here.
@celticeagle (190011)
• Boise, Idaho
20 Oct 12
That is an interesting bit of American history. Or Vietnamese. Things we don't really realize. We had some japanese people settle here in our Garden City and grow vegetables on a terrace type garden in our foot hills. You used to be able to see what was left of the terracing but it is all built up over now. Glad to hear they are good neighbors. I am seeing alot of foreigners coming to where I live. Whites were the majority here and now there is only about three or four white families. The rest are from Afganistan, Africa, Iran, Iraq and such countries. They are friendly and most are nice except for acouple we have had a run in with.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Oct 12
hi something erased my whole comment. was just going to say an area adjacent to orange county has during the last few years been suddenly developed with homes and then businesses built
around them and towns is still looks pretty raw as the trees are still puny,now last night on the news downstairs it seems a deadly car crash shut down t he freeway for hours. Oddly for years this land was just sitting there barren and dried out looking now its all
developed..
we have some Japanese here who also are really good neighbors
too. The Asian people here do n ot take their elderly to nursing homes or retirement centers but keep them in their own homes. we could really learn a lot fro m some of these peo ple.
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@celticeagle (190011)
• Boise, Idaho
21 Oct 12
How weird. I got my notifications back Thursday but didn't check until lastnight so I have been trying to get caught up but am having trouble posting. The comment you make about the Asians not taking their elderly to retirement or nursing homes makes me think of one of my pet peeves. I think that is what is wrong with America. We used to have what I call generational families. Several generations in a household. And built in babysitters if you know what I mean. The kids were taken care of by the grandparents while the parents worked. This way the kids were taught could moral and character. Now days that doesn't happen and the kids are brats. It's so sad. I was brought up at my grandparent's house and am so glad I was. I have taught my grandson some manners and gentlemanliness. Glad I am able to do so. Kinda got off the subject but that is where my thoughts went.
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@celticeagle (190011)
• Boise, Idaho
21 Oct 12
I recall you telling me about what your dad did and it is so discusting. Good to hear that you have your notifications back too. Yes, thank goodness.
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@bunnybon7 (50970)
• Holiday, Florida
21 Oct 12
I was reading through and i agree with most all said on this topic. we went out today and i was gone most of the day shopping. so just got here and yes it seems the legal immegrants are great good people to live with and they respect our country and show they want it to be thiers and make it theirs
but the illegal ones are a disgrace
and its one of the issues i have with our president wanting to sue our state for really making an attempt to fix the problem. when we seem to be the ones doing(or trying to do) the most about it!!
dont worry, i have issues with the other candidate also. not voting. dont want to feel bad about the one that ends up winning
and its one of the issues i have with our president wanting to sue our state for really making an attempt to fix the problem. when we seem to be the ones doing(or trying to do) the most about it!!
dont worry, i have issues with the other candidate also. not voting. dont want to feel bad about the one that ends up winning@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Oct 12
hi bunnybon I too have a hard time d ciding who to vote fora s I really really do not like Romney at all. I have an absentee ballot so will have to settle down and vote I gu ess. My table mate claims he is not going to vote. but does that not make it easier for the wrong people to get in?oh the problem with illegal Mexicans is just horrid as they really ruined the once pretty city of Santa Ans as they do not clean the streets at all. and they forced white
people out of the businesses they had like good stores by
refusing to shop there but only in
their little Mexican shops
Very few white people now live in downtown santa Ana and the gang drive b y shootings never stop.Those Mexicans who came here and became citizens are a w hole different story .law abiding and good
citizens always,

their little Mexican shops
Very few white people now live in downtown santa Ana and the gang drive b y shootings never stop.Those Mexicans who came here and became citizens are a w hole different story .law abiding and good
citizens always,

@jaiho2009 (39140)
• Philippines
20 Oct 12
dear Hatley,
Here in our country we have this place called "China town" a little village for Chinese residents.
This China town exist not only here in the heart of the Philippines, but also in some parts of the country.
In Baguio City, there's a Korean and Japanese community as well.
And here in Manila- an Indian community starts to have their own as well.
Have a great weekend ma'm



@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Oct 12
hi jaiho that took me back to when I was 20 and still a country kid and I and a classmate fled to San Franciso. I found China town'and was enthralled by it. the people in the shops and the
restaurants were kind and helpful and I did not see any bad
people around. but at the cheap hotel where I was staying the
man at the registering desk told me "A young lady alone should
not ever walk into China town at night,Miss" but he never told
me why i guess I was pretty naive as I had not been out much and to me San Francisco was wonderful and exciting. oh yes I was a sheltered farm kid. You know I have never been to the Philippines
either. always w anted to visit but like a lot of people no
money for t ravel.





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@jaiho2009 (39140)
• Philippines
20 Oct 12
Chine Town attracts a lot of tourist during Chinese New Year.
It's one of the most colorful event here in our country.
The Dragon and Lion dance is worth watching for.
The Chinese people distributing sweets especially the moon cake- drives the well-wishers to visit China town during this season.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
20 Oct 12
Hi Hatley! Yah, I hear there are a lot of Vietnamese out your way! Do you ever go to the restaurants - maybe have some pho?
Let's see . . . back in the days when my parents (who are Japanese) moved out to SFV, there weren't too many Asians - or at least the Japanese were scattered here and there in the SFV but not too many in our particular area. In school, there were not many Asians - and I only knew a couple Japanese kids. I was definitely in the minority (one of the few Asian in a "white" community). I went to Japanese school on Saturdays in the mid-Valley and there I met my Japanese "peers" who were from all over the Valley - and it was a community center for the adults. Not exactly a village, but at least it was a meeting place for the Japanese and Japanese-Americans. I don't know the story behind Little Tokyo in downtown but we used to go there a lot.
We still live in the same area - but it seems in the past couple decades, people from Korea have come settled out here. There are many Koreans in a particular residential area where people are known to be sort of "rich". Many Korean businesses have popped up. There is a couple Korean/Asian stores now and it's thriving well - whereas many of the little Asian stores that have tried to make it never made it too well in the Valley. One of our local schools have even installed a Korean immersion program . . . but I've heard many non-Korean parents are not too happy about that. There are many Koreans living here - and I personally don't have a problem with it (we have many Korean friends). It's certainly more than just a village they have built . . . I think they've boosted the economy out this way!
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Oct 12
hi much2say just thinking about it I do not know why I said Village as its pretty large really., oddly next door to them
is Korea Town I would say its at least 25 square blocks or
more.Whenever anyone talks about the valley I think about the Valley girls and their gag me with a spoon. those were the days
and silicon valley boomed. We wanted to move to northern California but did not have the money. the economy here is in the toilet and jobs are scarce and people hang onto jobs even if they hate them as to quit might mean you would be out of work for months.and rents are just crazy here.Everyone here really do like the Vietnamese and their stores are just behind our b uilding so for those here in
Gold Crest who can get around they can visit all sorts of stores and their prices are reasonable.
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@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
20 Oct 12
Hi aunt Hatley! What a great discussion. We have some people from India and people from Pakistan. We also have people from Mexico. There are a lot of illegals here, and many are very poor. They fled Mexico for a better life and it really didn't work out for them. There are apartments and houses that have several families sharing a dwelling and splitting the cost. Some if the Mexicans have done well and carry around wads of cash. It seems that they don't do banking. I guess because they have no documentation. However they got here, they are mostly very kind and peaceful. They are just trying to eek out a living to provide for their families and the relatives back home in Mexico.
There are two Pakistani fellows I know from going to to the Shell Station. They have done very well for themselves. They are always very friendly to me. I always refer to their store as "The Good Man's Store." Whichever man was managing the store the days I went there to get gas or get a diet coke or a gallon of milk, they always had kind words and a smile for me. I don't drive much anymore, but when I do drive, I really enjoy stopping in there. They are always well dressed and look very Americanized.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Oct 12
Hi pointlessquestions here in Southern Calif the illegal Mexicans are a big problem as they brought their young hoodlums gangs with them., drive by shootings every night and often innocent people are killed even though they are out for opposing gangs. the police do not do much and whats chilling is in Santa Ana the police
staff is mostly Mexican. the illegals mostly congregated
in Santa Ana thank Goodness.Most of them are very poor as they snuck in over the border at night. those who come here legally do very well
and are pleasant neighbors. I love to go to a place where even if the help is from another country they are always pleasant and smiling and it makes me feel good doing business tool

in Santa Ana thank Goodness.Most of them are very poor as they snuck in over the border at night. those who come here legally do very well
and are pleasant neighbors. I love to go to a place where even if the help is from another country they are always pleasant and smiling and it makes me feel good doing business tool

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@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
20 Oct 12
Yes, there is alos a place called little Mexico in s. california. its near the usa- mexico border. And of course when you tell me about it- they assume its in Mexico.
@danishcanadian (28954)
• Canada
1 Nov 12
I see what you're saying. A small area wih such a large population of another country, that it becomes a small community of that country's residents.
When I think of the post you made yesterday, or a few days ago, about the lady yelling it Vietnamese, I had no clue you lived in a Vietnamese community. I'm really surprised that there are't more people working at your retirement home, that speak their language.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Nov 12
hi danishcanadian oh its because when Vietnamese parengts become elderly the
adult children take them into their homes and do not do as so many Americans
do stick elderly parents in an old folks home.of coure a retirement center is not an old folks home as we have a lot of younger retirees hear too but fews Vietnamese older people. te three girls of Vietnamese descent are in thei thirties and they did not pay any attention to the lady with the temper screaming those words.two care takers do speak he language but they also were not sympatheitc t her either. so she w as angry and they should really have helped her, that is thier job after all.yes Gold crest sits smack in the middle of a vietnamese shopping center. lol.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
22 Nov 12
Hi Hatley. Yes, we have certain suburbs in all our cities here that are like Asian cities almost when you drive through them. When you are in them, it is hard to spot a caucasian person and all the shop signs are in the Asian language of the folk that have settled there.
There are always those people who are put off by these suburbs, they do not feel safe in them and resent these places popping up in "our country" but I actually like the fact that these little pockets of different cultures exist. It makes life interesting and they provide a variety of food choices that do not exist in the "normal" suburbs. And like you say, they are mainly hard working law abiding citizens.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
24 Nov 12
hi Rawbill I have met few who are not really hard working ajd law abiding. I did go in t he one huge Vietnamese market and my legs wer about to give out
before we left. I had a hard time finding what I wanted as almost everything
was in Vietnamese signs of coursr. I found several packages of the most
delicious cookies I had ever tasted made with coconut in them and some
fruit that I cou ld not pronounce.Also I got a package of cheeses that
were really delicious too.
somtimes I sit out in front to g et some sun and the elderly Vietnamese]pass by and c all Good day to me.Rarely does any others every call good day 'to me. lol
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
24 Nov 12
oh dear that first sentence I meant to say I have not man y who are not law aviding., it does not sound right.
@hereandthere (45628)
• Philippines
1 Nov 12
we had a facility called philippine refugee processing center that was opened in morong, bataan (outside metro manila) in 1980. it accommodated vietnamese, laotian and cambodian refugees and was funded by the UN high commissioner for refugees. it is like a small city where the refugees stay and helped to prepare for resettlement in other countries like canada, norway, australia, france and the us.
a lot of filipinos have chinese or spanish ancestry. we've also had waves of foreigners coming here through the years like the japanese and taiwanese. the latest are the koreans. because a lot of filipinos now work or live overseas, a lot of children in recent years are born of mixed parentage, like half-european, half-middle eastern.
what i've learned is there will always be good and bad apples and in the end, it's up to us how we behave and be good examples. at the same time we decide how we perceive other people, whether they are good by nature and whether as individuals or as a group.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Nov 12
hiher and there I have been so pleased with the f ew Filipinos I have met here as they are hard working and friendcly, and law abiding too.of course in any group; of people from another country will be a few bad apples but most of the Vietnamese here really are great as neighbors.thats good you hve the facility that
'help;s refugees to be prepared to settle in other countries.You are right it'is up to us how we behave towards people of another nationality, here in this retirement center we have a number of people from Vietnam, Laos, China , Japan name it and we really do get a long wonderfully well with only a few who quarrel. it s lot like
being here on m ylot . I love making friends from all over the world here.
















