rate the discussion not the person

@Hatley (163772)
Garden Grove, California
February 13, 2013 10:57pm CST
hi mylotters I think a lot of ne people think we do like in Facebook with like and dislike in rating people thats not what its about., ?We are supposed to be rating positive or negative the posts not a contest of likes and dislikes. your take fellow mylotters.
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@allknowing (153544)
• India
14 Feb 13
There are norms that one is expected to follow when a response/comment/topic is rated. If a user loses a star despite having followed all rules, it is proof that the person is rated and not the post. I would advise every one not to get affected by these ratings specially when one is not guilty of having broken any rules.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi allknowiong some come here from facebook and are still thinking like and dislike. folks this is mylot where you rate just the post not thinking who made it just thinking is it a good post or insulting and rate honestly not from liking or disliking the person. this is not a popularity contest. rate the work, does it help the mylot commiunity"? too many are hitting minus because they might not like he person which is wrong all wrong.
@allknowing (153544)
• India
14 Feb 13
I go by my own example. I have been a sincere and good user here and I know when my star went down. No it is not the newbies!
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Feb 13
hi allknowing I had a blue star years back and two tolls decided that an old woman making a discussion about smoking being bad for ones health should be punished.So they stayed up for 24 hours and minused everything I had written and in the morning I had a five star and fifty percent not my 99 and a blue star.The men were caught as they foolishly bragged about what they had d ne and my star was put back but only to an 8 and I worked hard to build up my reputation and my Friends I guess helped as I went up to nine then several years ago alex of admins told me and Diana he was going to give us blue stars and they did do it too So I have stayed there now at 95,6 percent and a blue star. I know you are a good user and i have tried to be also. the trouble is that our reputations do have a direct bearing on our earnings as they are figured in with the earnings algorithnm
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@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
14 Feb 13
If you found the post is offensive you can rate negative but if you think that the post are beneficial, don't mislead to rate positive. myLot is different from facebook that you can rate through likes and dislikes. Better you got more positive ratings granny, now your star remain blue
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@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
14 Feb 13
It's unfair if we rate them positive on their behalf who acted like they own the site. So far, within 3 years already I didn't encounter those kind of people
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi julyteen and AkamaruKei wow you really are participating I see your numbe going up. I agree if the post is offensive I will either rate it negative or report it as often times it is something that should be reporteds I have not found any like that in years here. I agree iots s wrong to give a positve to something offensive.
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• Malaysia
14 Feb 13
Yes agree with you julyteen. If someone give a rude respond, offend or sarcastic we should rate them negative.
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@leateagee (3667)
• China
14 Feb 13
I agree with every one else's opinion here. If the post is worth your rate then give it. If the response of a member also deserve to be rated, why not give. Well, I don't personally know the people here so I look at the content of the discussion. I am glad, I'm not much of a facebook fan. Facebook is too public for me. I can't bear the system there.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi leateagee Yes me too as I think we all do do our b est and I just read the post and mostly rate positive. If the post is insulting I would rather just hite report and lit my mot admins decide good or bad.I have an account in Facebook but really like mylot a lot more.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Feb 13
drat forgot to edit hit not hite let not lit lot not mot this is just awful how m any errors I missed.
@camomile07 (1420)
• Germany
14 Feb 13
Usually, I rate the discussion or the answer to one what I am reading based on the information given in the text, that means when the context or the answer given is correct, helpfull, I like to give a positiv quotation as we may learn a lot of almost all members here in Mylot. In my opinion, it's a bit difficult to rate a person only without considering the text posted, because to do so, I should know the person who posted to rate him or her, shouldn't I?
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi camomiole yes we must not get into the facebook idea of lies andsioliokes as we are noly ratning the p ost that is all. That way we will be fair as often times I will have a fewpersons yuo do not really like so don't let that enter into rating that post at all.No never rate a person just the post ever.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Feb 13
oh echo I cannot believe I let that comment go about as its just full of errors. it should be likes and dislikes as we are only rating the post that is all. that way we will be fair as often times I will have a few persons I do not really like but that must not enter into rating that post at all.hope that clears up that above comment of mine. I am appalled I did not edit that before posting the comment.[
• United States
15 Feb 13
camomile, Just remember that "helpful" does not equivelant to "Oh I really liked that response!" So long as its not fully based on how great you thought the response was but instead how helpful it is for myLot.
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@thanks1961 (7033)
• India
14 Feb 13
The observation is correct. Though it happenes rarely from my my end, we need to value the contents and on personal relations.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi thanks yes if we all will remember this not Facebook and just rate the post mot pagting attention to who posted it. no likes or dislikes here. this is not Facebook but mylot.read the guidelines and the FAQ's again if you are new here.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Feb 13
hi thanks yes I have had so much fun here and enjoyed the long time here and am still enjoying it now at my advanced age and as I have all kinds of time I use it to my lot a lot. lol
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• India
15 Feb 13
I am here new, but more than 3 years of enjoyed myLot as there is no such a site where all are incorporated with its best combinations. Now, only thing we need to identify and differencitate what is the best out here and why myLot stands for and why so many are here for a long period of time and still enjoying the sessions out here. Of course, I from the (Hatley (57100) I can estimate how long you are enjoying the life over myLot. Have a nice day!
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• United States
14 Feb 13
Omg! Are people really doing that? No wonder people get their stars attacked. You are exactly on point, Hatley. Rate the discussion. Don't mark negative to disagree. Only mark negative if it breaks the rules.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi pointlessquestions yes a few have said oh I hit positive for all those peole I like and I am going whoa just a cotton picking minute that is what brings some new ones stars down as someone is rating them not their work. I seldom even notice who wrote the p st as I am reading the post and almost always giving a positive rate as it does seem to help the community and deserves a positve rating.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Feb 13
typo post not p st, and people not peole i do know how t o spell b ut duid nbiot edit and saw the errors after I hit post.
@ajithlal (14716)
• India
14 Feb 13
I also agree that it is good to rate the discussion than the person. I think some people goes like you have said Facebook in rating. I think it is good to have quality responses and quality discussions. I think if the rating goes up more and more quality responses and discussions will come.
@ajithlal (14716)
• India
22 Feb 13
I also agree with you Hatley. I think it is good to rate according to the quality of the discussion and not if we like a person or not.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi ajithlal I have noticed a few new ones even talk bout rating the person and I tried to remind them that in mylot we just rate the post as its unfair to rate something negative just because you dislike that person.I think if peoples reputations go up then we will get much more quality posts I agree.
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
14 Feb 13
I think you maybe right. Mylot isn't Facebook, but a lot of folks these days are more familiar with that site then this one... donno why - they don't pay ya to be there...
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
15 Feb 13
I agree, then again, I've been here longer than Facebook, and mostly use Facebook as a gaming site... LOL
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Feb 13
hi ElicBxn I have been here for fiv e yearas myself and I joine faceb oo later b ut am not on there mu ch now. I agree with cupkitties that the newcomers must read the guidelines and the FAQ's if they want to thrive there on mylot.they would be fine if they just p aid attenton to how mylot workd.
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• United States
15 Feb 13
That may be true, but they need to leave the Facebook mindset at Facebook. I have seen a few newbies recently who have obviously come here fresh off the FB boat. You can tell by their discussions and how they interact with other users. They wonder why posts get deleted and other things happen. If they'd just realize they are in a whole different territory from Facebook, read the guidelines, the faq and pay attention, they'd be alright.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
14 Feb 13
Some people still do not understand the rating usage and use it to pick on the writer instead of the topic. Taking matters too personal in mylot should not happen and doesn't benefit anyone. Rate accordingly and everyone should be happy that the rating systems are not abused.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi zandy thats it. I have seen some new ones do great posts yet their stars dropped quickly in one or two days so I feel somone is mistaking mylot for facebooks like and dislike. this is so unfair and when new andt this happens it can esult in new ones leaving before they even get started.yes if we just rate the post then we will not abuse the system and cause some to give up and leave.
@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
15 Feb 13
You can do the same on person comments people write themselves. Let them think what they will. Idiots abound that site anyway.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Feb 13
hi c eltic oh you mean Facebook oh yes indeed. I agree a lot of idiots do abound o n that site. I hope we can keep mylot as unlike Facebook as possible for always. lol
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Feb 13
I do too as we have a lot of very intelligent people posting here and that makes the big difference
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@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
15 Feb 13
I doubt hat Mylot will become anything like Facebook. One reason I don't tell everyone about and usually just call it my discussion group.
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@cupkitties (7421)
• United States
14 Feb 13
I've been downrated and have never assumed it was due to anyone having a problem with me personally. . I believe its people not liking opinions different from their own and doling out punishment to anyone who doesn't agree with their ways. Example would be when I responded to a topic on the bible, I stated that I didn't believe in the bible as Gods word. Not long after that my rating was from 90/100 to 89/100. The same sort of thing has happened more than a few times and its always whenever I have a differing view of the majority.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi cupkitty yes indeed mylot even tells us its not right for us to minus someone because only that we disagree with him or her as not only is that wrong it will hurt our own star too. Yet like you said people here will misuse it and deliberately minus someone out of spite as you say happened to you.They are also hurting themselves if they do that . I have heard several newbies say they minus those whom they dislike and i had to say to them thats not what the rating is about .its not a lke dislike thing. rate only the quality of the post no one thng else
• United States
14 Feb 13
There are negative consequences for downrating quality content [b]What if I disagree with someone? Should I give that post a negative rating? Absolutely not! In fact, if you disagree with a post, but still feel it positively contributes to the discussion, you should rate it positively. Rating quality content negatively will hurt your ratings overall. Remember differing opinions and viewpoints tend to make for the most interesting discussions.[/b] and [b]Is there a way for someone to game the DRS and artificially inflate/deflate action quality? The DRS algorithm is very complex and will detect many forms of inappropriate ratings. If a user is trying to game the system, this abuse will only hurt the user. The integrity of the DRS is the top priority of the DRS team at myLot. In addition to the many automatic safeguards that are already in place, we are closely monitoring DRS activity to identify and prevent inappropriate rating[/b] http://www.mylot.com/o/faq/faq17.aspx#2
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• United States
15 Feb 13
Double face palm -  Because this moment calls for a double face palm
" I have heard several newbies say they minus those whom they dislike" Wow! They definitely came to the wrong site. I can't believe they actually said that too. I'm glad I didn't meet them I sure hope they listened to you.
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@namiya (1721)
• Philippines
14 Feb 13
I don't rate all discussions that I respond to but if I find one topic which is really noteworthy then I rate it positive not minding who the creator is and same goes for responses that to me are relevant and interesting.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi namiya I do try to rate all p osts as I go along but sometimes if there are say ten pages then If I have time I will rate all but if no will rate all I can in the time I do have. but the posts never the person.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Feb 13
hi namiya Yes to some extent I am patient but sometime I am not too. I do not know whyh some seem to have to minus all the time as that makes no sense to me at all. its wrong to just hit minus for no reason. if the post is good hit plus.]
@namiya (1721)
• Philippines
15 Feb 13
You're patient to do that. Actually there was a time here when my rate just drops down then up and drops down again the next day. I was also wondering then why? Perhaps it may be due to differences in opinion but I don't rate negative any discussion, response or comment that I may not agree. Mylot being a forum where everyone has the right to express his opinion (according to the rules set) rating negatively an opinion that differ from yours is not proper.
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@kourdapya (923)
• Philippines
14 Feb 13
Hi, that's what I do, if I like the comments and responses,I rate it positive. If I don't like the response but it's contributing to the discussion or if it's a new knowledge, I'd still give it a positive rating. I would only give negative comment if it's rude, racist, discriminating or insulting. But fortunately I have not seen any of such negative comments.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
kourdapya hi I also do that as its the post which i am reading and if rarely its insulting I will not give a minus bu t willj ust report it instead and let mylot decide if I am right or wrongs.. I seldom find a post thats mean or insulting however.We see tohave a wonderful community here
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
14 Feb 13
I have no idea that people are doing that here. It is clear that the rate we give are for the discussions alone; and not the person. Regardless, the discussion starter or any mylotter is likeable or not, we must still respect their opinions and whatever is it that the person posted must be rated fairly.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi enelym001 I did not think so either til i read a response between two newbies who said they rated so and so negative as they just did not like him . I told them do not do that as its unfair. just rate the post, is ita good post does it further the community if so rate positve but forget the poster. we are rating the posts not the people ever.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
14 Feb 13
I think it is the discussion and the way others express themselves is what we should be concerned about. I have hardly marked a post negative (although it has been done to me by those whom you mention), even though I disagree with them - that is unless they are extremely nasty, call me names, etc. And it looks as if the administration shall get rid of their response.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
15 Feb 13
I find that once one's star goes down through negative ratings, it is harder to go up. For instance, when one gets a negative, it is most of the time, a gang up effort and they might also rate anything that one writes as negative. So it is really being spiteful. Where as when one rates posts as positives, they just rate the section they are answering so it takes a little time. I do not like reporting . I like telling the other person, but I guess if I do that in the response, it would not do any good as that post would or discussion would get deleted.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi suspenseful yes thats it we are rating the discussion and its worth. I mostly rate positive as they are good discussions and instead of a negative rating if the post is mean and insulting I will just report it to the admns and let them decide. I sometimes do not know which way to rate one I have read so just by pass as no need to give a negative rating and pull down someones star.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Feb 13
hi suspenseful I did not like reporting either but sometimes its the best thing to do. You can not talk to someone who might have rated you minus as you would not know who it is but you can go to the admins and tell them you think someone is deliberately trying to pull down your star.I do not know of anyway you could be positive in identifying who is minusing you.
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@rosekiss (30413)
• Eugene, Oregon
14 Feb 13
You are so right that we only rate the discussions, and not the person. I do rat positive for the most part, and if i don't think the discussion or response is worthy of a positive rating, then I won't rat it at all. the ones that violate the guidelines though will get a negative rating. I think that a lot of users abuse the rating system, as they just don't know how to do it properly. Take care hatley, and have a very good day.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi rosekiss I was totallyh dismayed when I read two newbies who told one other they rate according to how they like the person. I had to respond that is not how you are to rate here in mylot. You do not rate the person at all.If the discussion is good rate it positive and if it you really do not know, by pass it and of course if its offensive or insulting you can rate negative or report. I often choose to report it and letadmins decide it.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Feb 13
hi echo rather than minyuhs I usu ally just report if its that bad and breaking the guideliness as it does t he s am thing it stops the wrong doer.I seldom rate minus as reoort is better when its breaking rules
• United States
15 Feb 13
We should be rating negatively as well! I do this too when I see one that breaks the guidelines. I don't do it abusively but they do deserve a negative for breaking rules.
@inertia4 (27978)
• United States
15 Feb 13
You're right. It is about rating the discussion. Not likes and dislikes. I like reading many different types of discussions here. I find even the bad ones to have something about them. I mainly like everything about MyLot.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Feb 13
hi inertia I am like that too and i seldom rate anyone negative as if its abusive I just report it to the admins otherwise I think most all of us do our best here so the posts deserve a plus.I am also am a devout liker of mylot.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Feb 13
hi I know mylot admins says minus them if its abusive but I think give the person a chance just report them so they learn that they cannot insult but still do not tear their star down either.
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@inertia4 (27978)
• United States
15 Feb 13
I believe everyone is here for the same reason we are, so giving them a negative make no real sense to me. But like you said, if they are ever abusive then thats a different story.
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@louievill (28846)
• Philippines
14 Feb 13
hi, I rate based on content, but there's another face to rating and I could be wrong, it could also be based on what we believe and what we do not believe in such as discussions on politics and religion. Hope we shun away from these prejudicial and biased thinking when rating , remember " respect begets respect" We might not believe what the person wrote but we have to think deeper, yes the content , the back ground of the person, the reason why. Some get into heated discussions and start rating I guess, again I could be wrong in my opinion since I cannot speak for all neither do i have hard facts and data. Now what do you think my friend? Could be the reason why some members say that they avoid discussions on politics and religion, now it's your take my friend
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi louievill yes I am one who does not get involved in religious or political discussions. But I will not let my own biases keep me from rating a positive post if its really good. I am after all rating the contents not the person.My own beliefs and biases do not come into the picture as I know thats unfair so I rate only according to the contrent and its goodness.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
hi louievill I also thought so as in the guidelines it says that those attempting to discredit someone will intimately hurt their own standing so they must know when someone starts out to purposely minus someone only because they have a bone to pick with them.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Feb 13
wrong wor I m eant ultimately not intimately sorry.
@JohnRok1 (2051)
15 Feb 13
I violently disagree with maidangela's beliefs. But she doesn't deserve a reputation star of 1 and any fair minded mylotter who sees a post of hers should give it a positive rating until her reputation score reaches a more appropriate level.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Feb 13
hi john you have piqued my interest as I have not seen maidangela so now I am going on a hunt lol.I doubt if most people deserve a one thats totallyh absurd to me.If her orhis posts are well within the guidelines we should not minusiong her or him. Thats perhaps again rating the p erson not the post. sad.
• United States
15 Feb 13
Riiight Well, I can agree he doesn't deserve the one star, but I don't think anyone's going to give random ratings to someone just because you asked. I found his posts over in Religious territory. Anyone is asking for trouble wandering over there. Not saying not to comment there, but all should be prepared.
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@JohnRok1 (2051)
15 Feb 13
MaidAngela uses that name, because MaidAngela has worked as a maid. I think the "Male" on her profile is a misprint. If it isn't, maybe he can explain why. But whatever, MaidAngela's posts are well within mylot guidelines and express a point of view that has a right to be on mylot.
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@echoforever (5180)
• United States
15 Feb 13
Considering after reading through 3 pages of responses and sharing my own with people now what to do I say for my own? The DRS system is complex as cupkitties response shared with us. We could be hurting ourselves by abusing the system and wonder why our own star has dropped. Its better to use the rating appropriately and no longer wonder about that if any one else reads that & is also abusing the system in one way or another. Ratings can be abused in so many ways. Trolls Opinions Disagreements Facebook-esque liking/disliking... This is but one that is abusive for us. Lets hope the admin have a tight eye on this more than we think so the abuse of all forms can be stopped.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Feb 13
hi echo I have read all that and I do not think I am doing anything wrong as I am sure the admins would have seen it if they thought I had. they would be letting me know if I had too. and I sure do not rate people just the posts.I have seen some I did not know just how to rate and admins says if you do not know or have an opinion just leave it thats okay.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Feb 13
hi echoforever yes you are doing great and are very active so you have no problems either. The sun is shining the skies are blue with a sort of spiderweb of clouds so no storms, no rains just looks like a perfect day out there. I know I should get outside more yet here I am stuck behind my computer lol lol
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• United States
16 Feb 13
yep I feel likewise that I"m doing well here in the stysem of rating both that I seem to get positively rated, that makes me feel great!! and I'm doing the right thing in my own ratings so I don't have tow orry aobut that either!
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