There went the nightshade......

@dawnald (85137)
Shingle Springs, California
April 3, 2013 11:23pm CST
I had to let Dearra down about this gluten free diet. When the doctor said try it for a month, she just assumed that after a month she could eat wheat again. So I told her you'd probably be able to put it back in eventually, but not right away, and certainly not 3 meals a day. Sure enough, once she said her elbow felt better, he said to stay on the gluten free diet, and since it wasn't all the way better, let's try taking something else out. It was either the nightshade or dairy, and he decided to start with the nightshade. So on top of gluten free pasta, bread, etc., no tomato sauce, potatoes, peppers, etc. She was at least happy he didn't take away dairy. For now. But he basically said that with rheumatoid arthritis, it's far too serious a thing to take a chance, so given that it's better with the gluten gone, no gluten. Then we'll see if the nightshade being gone also helps, or if taking dairy out helps. Time to seriously start looking up recipes. Yikes....
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@celticeagle (189927)
• Boise, Idaho
4 Apr 13
Ugh! Poor kid. I don't know which is worse emotional disturbances or other affliction and dietary limitations. My grandson would go nuts. F.Y.I.- Did you know that Aloe Vera juice helps with arthritis pain and swelling?
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 13
rheumatoid arthritis?
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@celticeagle (189927)
• Boise, Idaho
4 Apr 13
Here is what I read: "Acutely inflamed swollen joints caused by rheumatoid arthritis or trauma respond very well to ingestion of aloe vera juice." This juice contains ingredients that reduce inflammation, including bradykinin, salicylate and natural steroids. It also contains vitamins A, B, C and E, which are not only anti-inflammatories, but strong anti-oxidants as well. These ingredients react in the body by absorbing the toxins produced during the process of inflammation, thus decreasing the level of swelling caused by arthritis."
@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
4 Apr 13
Do you know I have an alo vera plant growing in a pot in my garden. I am going to start taking it. Very prickly but you cut it and take the slimy stuff inside of the bulbous leaves with juice or something. I know that when I got burned by scalding water my helper rushed and cut some leaves and put it on the burn and it relieved the pain and no burn marks. I looked at the plant yesterday and decided to keep it but it needs dividing and resetting in garden or pots. Worth trying dawn as if it relieves inflammation outside of the body then there is a good chance that it would do the same for inside of the body too
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
4 Apr 13
Have you tried products based on aloe vera. They have a product suited for the kind of problem your child is facing. I was a distributor for this company a few years ago. https://www.foreverliving.com/retail/shop/shopping.do?itemCode=205&task=viewProductDetail This is a US company and they have several products based on aloe vera.
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@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
4 Apr 13
I just told Dawn that I have a plant growing in my garden and it is used widely on this Island.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
4 Apr 13
The product that I have recommended has a combination of aloe vera and MSM (Methyl Sulphonyl Methyl) which is good for joint pains.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
4 Apr 13
And this is their home page https://www.foreverliving.com/retail/entry/Shop.do;jsessionid=1340E6921CF383425CBECED3DBCBA9FA.tc2-int1
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
4 Apr 13
I would go crazy if they took away the tomatoes and peppers. I would not mind the potatoes as I could use sweet potatoes as well. She sounds like my granddaughter, she has to be on a lactic free diet and because her mother is allergic, probably cannot eat any celery and anything belonging to the parsley family. It would be harder looking up recipes as she seems to be allergic to almost anything. She could probably have rice and or quionoa pasta, almond milk, brown rice milk, or coconut milk, but what can you substitute for tomatoes?
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
5 Apr 13
With me, I would go crazy. I do not like cream sauces, but probably would pesto. It does make it hard for someone when they are allergic to so many food items. I guess they are supposed to eat the old way -meat, potatoes, and vegetables separate and not casseroles or things like that. It would be very boring.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 13
yes, all of those things you mentioned are OK. There's no good substitute for tomatoes that I'm aware of, but there are other sauces she likes, such as pesto, alfredo...
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@sid556 (30953)
• United States
4 Apr 13
Oh that poor little girl and her poor mom!! I was just talking last week to a woman whose daughter has Rheumatoid arthritis....yep..it is serious. The daughter has an amazing attitude and comes in the store all the time. If the mom hadn't told me, I'd never know how much this girl suffers. My youngest daughter was suspected of having Celiacs disease and so for a time we had to really change up our ways...it was not easy. reading labels became a way of life for us. In the end, it was not Celiacs but what an eye-opener. I've never heard the term "nightshade" before and thought I'd be reading a fire story here. Good luck, Mom!
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@sid556 (30953)
• United States
4 Apr 13
Cynthiann, you are just too cute. No wonder we all just love you. And there lies our difference....I just put my ignorance on things right out there...no wonder I get picked on all the time. Still, giggling...you are awesome!
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 13
I didn't know either, but in my discussion about the gluten free diet somebody mentioned it.
@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
4 Apr 13
And there I was thinking that I was the only one who didn't know so I kept quiet
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• United States
4 Apr 13
Sweet potato gnocchi, gluten free pizza with fresh mozzarella and veggies, pesto instead of tomato-based sauces on her GF pasta, sweet potato latkes, maple syrup-glazed Brussels sprouts, roasted root veggies, salmon... There is life beyond gluten and the nightshade family; it will just take some adjusting.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 13
I don't think the Brussels sprouts will pass her lips, and she's not terribly fond of sweet potatoes, but she likes salmon and pesto sauce, so that's something...
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 13
She realizes all that. She's a smart cookie. But she's not too happy about some of it.
• United States
4 Apr 13
Maybe not, but there definitely is life beyond gluten and members of the nightshade family. The sweet potato thing may change or may depend on context. My boyfriend swears that he "doesn't like them," but he eats them in a roasted root veggie mixture without any complaint. Even with the restrictions, there are still many things she can enjoy--from omelets to vegetable soup to chili. Many recipes can be made gluten-free. I know that she is taking this hard, but this really isn't as bad as she thinks it is right now. One way to put this into perspective for her is to point to the fact that some people have food restrictions due to life-threatening allergies--allergies to foods that are so pervasive within our society that it is extremely difficult to avoid traces of them. She can still go out to restaurants. She can still enjoy friends' birthday parties. She can still have certain desserts. She just needs to avoid certain things in order to help avoid being in excruciating pain.
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@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
4 Apr 13
Ah Dawn - yet another challenge to conquer. what on earth can she eat by the way? At least it is beginning to work and that is an improvement. Poor Dearra. Perhaps she could take part in the meal planning and that would make her feel that she does have some control on what goes into her mouth?
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 13
It's so hard to get her involved, I usually just buy stuff and see what she goes for, but if I catch her in the right mood, yeah. It would be better to involve her.
@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
4 Apr 13
Right at this moment then she is probably subconciously rejecting that she may have to eat this way for life. It is all a bit too much for her to get her head around this. I am sure as time passes and she realises that this may be for the long term then she will be more coperative. After all - she is the one feeling the pain right? Pain the but-t though for both of you
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 13
She was OK with taking gluten out at first, but the longer it went on, the more she wanted certain things. Now, taking an additional thing out just makes it all more complicated. No ketchup, spaghetti sauce, barbecue sauce, potatoes, chilis (which makes it really hard with Mexican food)... But we'll work it out.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
4 Apr 13
I wonder what is left for her to eat salads?
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
5 Apr 13
I can go along with meat and viggies beans are ok by me but several in the family wont eat beans RIce can only take so much and it would have to be wild rice here. Nuts ya can only eat so many
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 13
Meat, most veggies, fruit, rice, nuts, beans...
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
7 Apr 13
Poor Dearra, what a nightmare for her and for you too. Is this something a young person grows out of or will it be sticking around for always?
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Apr 13
If she had gotten it at a much younger age, there would have been a much larger chance that she could have grown out of it...
@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
6 Apr 13
I went to a foot doc who told me to stay away from the nightshades. I did it for several YEARS and it did help, but it was REALLY hard... I LOVE spaghetti!
@artemeis (4189)
• China
4 Apr 13
I hope your daughter will be able to cope with the strict diet and I could not help asking what more food does she have to avoid. I am so afraid that there won't be much food left for her to eat and whether her body could have the needed nutrition at the end of the day. I think you need to be 4 steps ahead and expect ALL the restrictions, so as to step up with the menu when the time arrives. In turn, you will have the time to prepare her mentally to accept the transitions.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 13
For now, anything with wheat, rye or barley, and the new additions, tomato, peppers, potatoes and eggplant. For future, we may be removing all milk products. That leaves eggs, meat, vegetables (except those mentioned above), fruits, rice, beans, corn, chocolate, nuts...
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
4 Apr 13
That's awful! Glad she's feeling better though.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Apr 13
Our modern diet doesn't seem to agree with her body...
@4ofmyown (1119)
• United States
6 Apr 13
Wow...glad she is feeling better but having a "different" diet isn't easy and can get REALLy expensive. I would be curious as to what recipes you find...I hope you will post some occasionally that you find are really good.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
4 Apr 13
It really is one of the most difficult time in a teen's life to have to accept that they will have to deal with a serious thing like rheumatoid arthritis for life. One bright light is that the timeing is great, new health treatments are being found all the time. Even twenty years ago she would have had a much more grim future. Just learning that certian foods affect the body this way is great information, at least that gives her choices. I found eggs caused me a lot of pain, no one told me I just stumbled on it. We ran out of eggs for about a week and I noticed my pain was much less, then I added just one egg back and it returned, the more eggs the worse the pain. I've chosen a no egg diet. My arthritis is osoto, not nearly as serious as Dearra's , but pain is pain.
@vandana7 (102698)
• India
4 Apr 13
You just named my ailment...rheumatoid arthritis...bad...my foot turns or curls half way and its really painful...dont get good night's sleep. Use meds, and ointments to keep me rested. What to do...:( Future is more scary...:(
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@vandana7 (102698)
• India
4 Apr 13
Tell Dearra ...this is what can happen to her, if she does not take care of her health from now onwards.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Apr 13
hi dawn i guess a lot of people cannot handle gluten and I am learning that young people like dearra can get rheumatoid arthritis. I know I got osteo in middle age b ut its tough to get this as a kid. I hope they do not have to eliminate too many things from her diet. I do hope her elbows does get better,Its so awful to hurt all the time.
@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
4 Apr 13
The store I work for has a SHIFT LOAD of gluten free stuff, i'm just sayin'.
@alberello (4752)
• Italy
5 Apr 13
Well, Dearra had to make a gluten-free diet. Substantially in products eaten by it, had to avoid wheat (so I suppose a priori that would avoid eating bread also) At which point you decided to try this nightshade (which in Italy I do not know) and as I understand, Dearra liked it. Now at this point you have decided to continue with this type of feeding Dearra every day for a month?