Nowhere to go?
By Robin Lamb
@troyburns (1405)
New Zealand
November 20, 2015 12:11am CST
I saved and deleted all of my Bubblews posts about a year ago. Occasionally I look back over them, checking to see what I was thinking about back then, before deleting the ones that are rubbish.
In the September 2014 file, I came across a couple of old posts which possibly tell two sides of the same story. The first is from a curious article I wrote about toilets, and as yesterday was World Toilet Day it seems timely to recycle this part of it:
"Almost 2.5 billion people - more than one third of all those alive today - don't have access to a proper toilet. More people die each year from diseases caused by this lack of hygiene than succumb to AIDS, malaria, Ebola and tuberculosis combined. Diarrhoea is the world's second biggest cause of child death."
The second of these September posts now seems oddly prescient. It is about human migration, and how it will change our world. Here is some of what I wrote:
"I suspect this will be the single biggest issue of the current century. Displacement of populations through war, disaster, discrimination and poverty has always been commonplace, but now there is also a tide of people who simply want a share of what we, the lucky ones, already have that they do not.
"What are the lessons here? First, that understanding and appreciating other creeds and races will become more important than ever before. Most of us will shortly have neighbors who are extrinsically quite different to ourselves, and we'll need to get along.
"Second, our former notions of "culture" will need to be remade. What it means to be British, or French, or American will not be the same for your children as it was for your parents.
"And third, we should be seriously rethinking our global footprint. How much of the wealth are we really entitled to? And how much of it are we willing to share? We need to accept that the poor and downtrodden know what we have, and it will be difficult to blame them for wanting part of it too.
"How we deal with these issues will shape this century, I believe. Each war we do nothing to prevent, each natural disaster we don't respond to adequately, each child who grows up without education or basic needs, each affront to human rights we ignore, these will all have a say in the way our world looks in the next decade or two.
"It seems to me we have a simple choice. We can either do more to help those less fortunate than ourselves, right now, or we can expect many more new neighbors in the next few years."
If you made it this far, thanks for reading.
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25 responses
@WorDazza (15826)
• Manchester, England
20 Nov 15
I'm glad you recycled these posts, particularly the second one. Gave me a chance to read them as I missed them first time round.
The human migration one is an exceptional piece of writing. Deserves a much wider audience than it will gain here.
I think you've really hit on the crux of the matter when you say "We need to accept that the poor and downtrodden know what we have, and it will be difficult to blame them for wanting part of it too." In terms of the way the poor and downtrodden live (or should that be exist) it was ever thus. It's only recently that modern communications technology has made them realise that it doesn't have to remain that way, and shouldn't have to remain that way if Western politicians can just get there backsides in gear. There's more than enough food to feed the world. There's more than enough skills/resources to give people decent living conditions.
Sadly there doesn't seem to be enough of the most important thing required. The will to just get on and do it!
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@WorDazza (15826)
• Manchester, England
21 Nov 15
@troyburns My pleasure Robin (or is it Troy???). This is far and away the best piece of writing I've seen either on Bubblews, or here, in the 18 months or so I've been doing this stuff.
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@WorDazza - Thanks for suggesting this Dazza. It's made a big difference, as small gestures often do. I'm glad you mentioned the importance of modern communications. These not only play an important role in expanding the world of the downtrodden, but also make it so much easier to organize transit channels. I know, for instance, that my barber is able to Skype his family in Iraq.
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@Drosophila (16568)
• Ireland
21 Nov 15
There's still a lack of public loos in central London!
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@boiboing @BellaDoc - Good stuff,both of you. I'm a bit of a dreamer but I do believe we can make small but meaningful changes if everyone actively supports a cause of some kind. Looking forward to reading about the microfinancing - that's a marvelous idea. I suppose you've seen the TED Talks from Muhammad Yunus and Jessica Jackley?
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@sofssu (23660)
•
20 Nov 15
You seemed to have summed up the problems of the world so well. Wealth creation and sharing will forever continue to be a problem due to man's greedy nature.. The fact that you have forseen human migration and dealt with it so clearly amazes me. Its almost prophetic in nature. Thanks @WorDazza for suggesting this post.
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@sofssu - Thank you for reading and thinking about this. It's time we got serious about solving long-term problems. We've spent far too long protecting short-term interests, I'm afraid.
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@Fleura (34927)
• United Kingdom
20 Nov 15
Those are very difficult questions, especially 'the wars we do nothing to prevent'. The question is, how much should one country interfere in the affairs of another? And it usually involves taking sides, so how to choose which side to support and how to deal with the people on the other side? The current mantra is that democracy is the be-all-and-end-all solution to everything, but of course Hitler was voted into power. And when the American elections all went so badly wrong not so long ago no UN observers were sent there to oversee that democracy was properly upheld, why not?
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@PainsOnSlate (21845)
• Canada
20 Nov 15
This subject is hitting the news in good ways and crazy ways too. I wish we had helped or at least tried to help before those thousands left their home land. Would it have helped enough to make them fell comfortable in their own country? Maybe, maybe not. Now we have no choice, they need help and they will become our neighbors. In the future your words could make a difference. Well said..
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@PainsOnSlate - Billions of dollars in assistance are being sent to Africa and other places in the hope that impoverished and unstable societies will be able to move forward. Although much of this money will 'disappear',I think it can still make a difference to many people..Just not enough to stop bad government, ethnic division and outmoded religious and cultural traditions from holding back real progress. Wouldn't it be great if we could make our assistance contingent on the 'right' to an education for all children?
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@PainsOnSlate (21845)
• Canada
21 Nov 15
@troyburns That would be heavenly but most of the money doesn't reach the children does it. Greed overtakes the importance of helping. A sad truth. I wish I wasn't so old, I would love to be around in 50 - 75 years to see if any changes are made or if life gets better for anyone.
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@JudyEv (381739)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 Nov 15
I am just pleased I'm coming towards the end of the line. I have no idea how to answer these questions or what to do about them. And I'm really selfish in being pleased that Australia is so difficult to get into. I hate the way we treat our refugees but how can any country possible cope with tens of thousands pouring over their borders every day? Indonesia has so many more people than Australia. How long will they be satisfied with having so much less?
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@JudyEv - I'm selfish too, because I want a better world for my kids. The Australian (and NZ) track records aren't particularly admirable, but there is some validity to the government's claims that "boat people" are taking inordinate risks. It does show the absolute desperation of so many people from SE Asia though,and we can't expect the traffic to slow down any time soon.
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
23 Nov 15
@JudyEv - That's an interesting point. Australia is so big,it would be impossible to conquer completely, I suspect. Maybe only the west coast? (sorry) Did you read about the criticisms of Australia's policies at the UN review?
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@purplealabaster (22085)
• United States
28 Nov 15
This does not exactly have to do with what you wrote, but it kind-of does. Instead of telling our children that things are "good" and "bad" or "right" and "wrong", we use the terms "acceptable" and "unacceptable". We do this so that they grow up realizing that just because we do things a certain way does not mean that other people and cultures have the same views. Things that are acceptable here are not necessarily acceptable in other places and vice versa. I think that this helps them grow up with a more open-mindedness that we need, especially when we are now able to communicate and interact with so many more people all over the world.
Once you take out the "right versus wrong" mentality, then we become more willing to try to understand and help others. In addition, we can think outside the narrow window of our lives and perhaps come up with solutions to some of these problems.
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@purplealabaster (22085)
• United States
28 Nov 15
@troyburns The same way that we do it when talking about a lot of the older generation. It does not make it "right" that they do it, but it is and was "acceptable" when they were growing up and throughout a lot of their lifetime. "Right" and "wrong" are moral values that we assign. Just because something is "acceptable" does not make it morally right. Then again, what is morally right for one person might not be the same for another.
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
28 Nov 15
@purplealabaster - That's a smart idea. The conundrum, though, is how we respond to people - or peoples - who see the world in stark back and white. How do we impress upon kids that narrow-minded dogma is "acceptable" - and even encouraged - in most places around the world?
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
28 Nov 15
@purplealabaster - This is very true. You only need to look at the Republican/Democrat split to see how morality is founded on personal values and not on a universal truth.
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@allknowing (153544)
• India
21 Nov 15
It is the migrant labourers here that are a cause for concern. They will put up tents on the side of roads and having no toilets you know what the result would be. There are plans to put up mobile toilets for these people.
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
21 Nov 15
@allknowing - That sounds like a good move. Where are these workers from?
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@allknowing (153544)
• India
21 Nov 15
@troyburns They are from all over the place There are certain villagers here who are specialised in this kind of labour such as in construction work.
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@arthurchappell (44941)
• Preston, England
20 Nov 15
made it to the end and fully agree - we should welcome and respect our neighbours and help them against any who would dare try to make them or us unwelcome
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@arthurchappell (44941)
• Preston, England
20 Nov 15
@troyburns I agree, I think in a few generations time things could get really unpleasant
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@arthurchappell - Hi Arthur. I think we're now at the point where it might be too late to do anything else. Things could get very interesting if/when climate change starts to affect large populations too.
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@koopharper (7599)
• Canada
20 Nov 15
There is great opportunity for the human race but also the potential for a great deal of trouble if we bungle it all. My country is preparing for a big influx of refugees but I'm not impressed with what I see as the management thereof. There nearest city is planning to bring three hundred people to the community but we have no facilities or infrastructure to properly help them. We also don't have the means to create it all from the ground up anytime soon. I have misgivings about how well it will go here. I've experienced culture shock on a lesser scale. It isn't going to be easy.
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@koopharper (7599)
• Canada
21 Nov 15
@troyburns Honestly I once lived in a city of the same size in Ontario. There was a mosque and small thriving Muslim community. You could buy meat in the regular grocery store killed according to Islamic law. Even the large call centre I worked in provided a prayer room and schedules sympathetic to their needs. That's a great place to send some. Moncton on the other hand has none of these things at all. Job prospects in both cities are in my view poor and most of the working poor will not be happy to see them.
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@koopharper - I see there is a debate in Canada about the pros and cons of settling refugees in smaller communities. We are asking the same question here in NZ. It seems to be a matter of infrastructure versus opportunity in many cases.What do you see as the essential things that refugees might need?
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@JamesHxstatic (29410)
• Eugene, Oregon
20 Nov 15
Those are certainly worth recycling. Well done and, as you say, "prescient" too.
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@JamesHxstatic - Thanks James. I'm tempted to recycle a few others now. I have a 2013 one about Syria which is interesting, given the current crisis there.
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@ElizabethWallace (12069)
• United States
20 Nov 15
I have thought for a very long time, that if we spent more money building hospitals and schools all over the world, we would have less need for bombs.
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@ElizabethWallace - But there is so much more money to be made from bombs...The cost of our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is somewhere upwards of 4 trillion dollars - that's a lot of schools and hospitals. The trouble is that we often need to educate the authorities first - schools are seen as dangerous in far too many places.
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@ElizabethWallace (12069)
• United States
21 Nov 15
@troyburns We start where it is easy and work our way into those areas that are tougher. Clean water, toilets, hospitals and schools. I love the Send a Cow project. I know the bomb makers would not like this, but don't the rest of us out number them?
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@babaraimc (1310)
• Pakistan
20 Nov 15
whenever i see a long posts
it becomes very difficult for me to read it
hope you won't mind
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@babaraimc - That's fine Shareef. My discussions can be a bit long for most people! Thank you for showing an interest anyway.
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@babaraimc (1310)
• Pakistan
21 Nov 15
@troyburns thanks for understanding, may be you try to explain every detail
but i am not good at reading long posts
hope you wont mind
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@BellaDoc - I think you may be right. Perhaps it is already too late.
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@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
20 Nov 15
I don't think I'd live long without access to a good working toilet. I mean one of those cold out door ones at the service station either. My electrically heated one right here down the hall. LOL
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@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
21 Nov 15
@troyburns ...That's for sure. And, I for one, take it so for granted.
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@celticeagle - We take things like plumbing and electricity so much for granted,don't we? It's amazing to think that on a global scale they are luxuries.
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@BelleStarr (61463)
• United States
23 Nov 15
This posts were well worth bringing back especially in light of what is going on.
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
23 Nov 15
@BelleStarr - Thanks Belle. I suspect the next generation will need to face these problems squarely, but we all should be at least considering them right now.
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@LeaPea2417 (40020)
• Toccoa, Georgia
20 Nov 15
This is very well written and food for thought.
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@LeaPea2417 - Thanks for your kind words Anne Marie. Isn't it great to see so many people getting involved in this very tricky discussion?
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
20 Nov 15
@jaboUK - We need a few more 10th Man thinkers who can start solving the problems we won't face for another generation. Simple, really. (Now where is that emoticon for 'total and utter exasperation'?)
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@vickyrose (2236)
• Cooma, Australia
21 Nov 15
I have enjoyed your writings in Bubblews. You can certainly engage your reader. Have you written a book?
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
21 Nov 15
@vickyrose - Hi Rosy - that's a very satisfying thing to hear. No, I've never written a book for grownups, only one for kids. My life is a little too scattershot for me to commit to anything that requires sustained concentration.
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@Auntylou (4262)
• Oxford, England
21 Nov 15
Very good post which was suggested to me by @Wordazza.
Where I live in Oxford is already very cosmopolitan. The only thing I think though is that if people want to stay here they should learn to speak English so that communication is possible
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@Auntylou (4262)
• Oxford, England
23 Nov 15
@troyburns Yes the women are often isolated in the home and their children have to take time off school for doctor's appointments and the like.
There used to be free language classes but since the bankers created huge debts that we all are having to pay off, these services have been cut





















