Trump and the Muslims

@Rollo1 (16679)
Boston, Massachusetts
November 21, 2015 12:35pm CST
Recently, the internet was ablaze with shock and anger over something Donald Trump said. It is understandable that people would be horrified to hear that Donald Trump said that Muslims should all be forced to register and a database should be kept of all Muslims in the US. Except, he didn’t say it. The video clip that was aired was edited to make it appear he said it. The truth is that it was a CNN reporter who asked if Trump would favor a database of all Muslims. The idea was one that Trump had never suggested before. The reporter seems to have come up with the idea. But Trump didn’t say what the reporter wanted him to say. He didn’t, as was reported, answer “Absolutely” to that question. Instead he talked about securing the borders and building a wall. Then the reporter asked: “Is that something your White House would implement?” And Trump answered : “I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.” Trump was saying he would implement the border security and building a wall. But CNN edited out all of that so that we would all think he had just announced that he was planning to keep a database of all Muslims. Now, I am not writing this discussion as any kind of apology for or endorsement of Donald Trump. I am writing it to illustrate how the media manipulates us. They decide which questions to ask. They edit the videos. They show us what THEY want us to see so that they can be sure that we think what they want us to think. Which is why I keep asking this question: Why does anyone watch the mainstream media? Why do we do that, knowing how many times they have edited videos and lied to us? Why do we not seek out the truth? Why are we not angrier at being manipulated, lied to and having our opinions fed to us? And don’t tell me that you watch the only network that tells the truth. They all do it. They do it for ratings. They do it from bias. They do it because they think they are smarter than you are, and they do it because they can.
Skip to content by John Nolte21 Nov 20150 Left-wing cable news network CNN has been caught red-handed selectively editing Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump’s comments about a “Muslim registry,” and doing so in order to make it sound as thoug
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
21 Nov 15
Shame on CNN which is seen by many foreigners as a reliable station.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
21 Nov 15
None of them are completely reliable, because they all have a bias. But more importantly, journalists no longer see their job as reporting the news. They see it as shaping public opinion.
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• United States
22 Nov 15
@Rollo1 The news department now resides under the Entertainment division. Yikes.
@msiduri (5687)
• United States
21 Nov 15
@Rollo1 That's the problem. And it infuriates me to no end.
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
21 Nov 15
And they do it because it works.It was a newspaper man,after all,who said that "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." And not just Americans.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
21 Nov 15
Yep. They know that outrageous statements get the audience. Trump has given us a lot of outrageous statements. So they were simply trying to get another one. But they didn't, they just made it seem like they did. It's very sad to see how they have abandoned their sacred duty - to spread truth.
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@troyburns (1405)
• New Zealand
22 Nov 15
@Rollo1 - The narrative is more important than the details, I'm afraid. The only way to escape the cesspit of manipulation is to show concern for different narratives.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
22 Nov 15
Trump has enough real issues with out the nonsense. But, do you have a link to the unedited version (cuz I'm super lazy like that) I'd love to give the full piece a fair listen. Because my first thought was "gee, if only we had some historical parallel we could look at to see how this turns out"
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
22 Nov 15
I swear by all I am, if Trump wins the GOP nomination, I will vote for who ever wins the Dem's. As bad as Clinton is, Trump would be the worst tyrant we have had since Hamilton.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
22 Nov 15
I think Trump says enough outrageous things without them making them up. If you watch the video on the site, you can see the edit. I don't know about the full unedited video. I may have a look around for that.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
22 Nov 15
@Rollo1 I can't find a single copy of any purportedly unedited video. In fact, the video I am seeing in the link does not appear to be edited. If there is one out there, I would love to see it, because I am arguing with someone on facebook over the issue now and I would love some solid proof.
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• United States
21 Nov 15
That's how the 'news' is manipulated....
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
21 Nov 15
Exactly. And it makes me angry to see it done. And it makes me wonder how much we don't know was manipulated. If we find an instance here and there, there must be others we never learn about.
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• United States
22 Nov 15
@Rollo1 I guess we have no choice but to decide on our own what's what.
@Jessicalynnt (50525)
• Centralia, Missouri
21 Nov 15
I get so tired of the news doing stuff like this, I kinda hope a big deal is made of them making up stuff,!
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
21 Nov 15
I have seen cases of edited video and manipulation on several. networks. What happens is that the false story gets seen and share a lot, but the corrected one never does. Sometimes no one even knows that the stories were false.
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• Centralia, Missouri
22 Nov 15
@Rollo1 yeah I tend to mistrust news now, most of the time, hard to know when you have found what someone really said or did
@moffittjc (118449)
• Gainesville, Florida
22 Nov 15
This is exactly the reason why I don't watch the news channels that often. And in those rare times when I do, I'll flip to several news channels in the hopes of possibly getting half the truth. I never accept anything from the news media as being the "truth."
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
22 Nov 15
I read a lot of different websites, nation and international and try to get the story from different sources. There isn't that one news organization that is above telling us partial truths.
@moffittjc (118449)
• Gainesville, Florida
22 Nov 15
@Rollo1 It's not even just the news media that is lying to us...our own government is guilty of it as well! It's sad that there is no trustworthy sites we can rely on to provide unbiased, truthful information!
@GardenGerty (157555)
• United States
21 Nov 15
Beats me why we let them fool us all around. It does not surprise me that this happened.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
21 Nov 15
I think that the absolutely last thing we should believe are sound bytes. Especially if we see them on any social media site to any network with a political bias (all of them). We're going to have to go back to the old system of going out to hear the candidates in person if we want to know what they said.
@esfes025 (432)
• Elkhart, Indiana
22 Nov 15
If what you say is true then shame on CNN. Either way I cannot stand Trump though.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
22 Nov 15
It's not about Trump, though. They shape and selectively report on everyone in the light of their own opinions. They don't think we are capable of deciding for ourselves, they want to push us into this opinion or that opinion.
@FourWalls (62164)
• United States
21 Nov 15
This is nothing new. People must understand that news reporting in the U.S. COMES WITH BIASES. That is shown by what they cover and HOW they cover it. I always point to sports for an example of the obvious bias in the media: the same baseball writers (who vote for induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame) who say they would NEVER vote for Mark McGwire (who, in 1998, was credited by these same writers with "saving baseball" after years of declining attendance with his chase of Roger Maris's single-season home run record) because of his "steroid use" turn around and say they WILL vote for Barry Bonds (who, in addition to using steroids, is also a convicted felon for purjuring himself (lying about his steroid use). What's the difference? The answer lies in the bias of the baseball writer who thinks one is a sinner and the other is a saint, when they're both cheats. If you remember George Zimmerman, the Florida resident who shot Trayvon Martin, NBC was caught editing the 911 call to make it appear that Zimmerman had engaged in "racial profiling." After other networks picked up on this NBC fired the people behind the editing and issued an apology. Zimmerman even sued NBC because of it.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
21 Nov 15
The news media decides the narrative and then makes the facts fit. The story was more sensational with an edited tape, so that's what they presented. And even years later, some people still don't know that the tape was edited. Because no one reads the corrections, no one hears anything but the original sensationalism.
@Juliaacv (48447)
• Canada
21 Nov 15
Yes, what the media "reports" seems to be what a lot of people consider to be reality. But based on that, you sure do hear a lot about Donald Trump, who as far as I am concerned is about the most abnoxious American I have ever met. Why do they feel that they need to put the worst out front? Makes you wonder doesn't it?
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
21 Nov 15
They probably have their agenda when it comes to certain candidates. After all, they are not superhuman and they have political leanings and views. But they need to report the news in an unbiased way, straight news. And they don't seem capable of doing that.
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@LadyDuck (458233)
• Switzerland
22 Nov 15
All the media are manipulated, it's a shame, we can trust nobody.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
22 Nov 15
It is true, we really have to listen for ourselves and find out for ourselves and form our own opinions because we can't trust those who can manipulate what we hear and see.
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@PainsOnSlate (21854)
• Canada
23 Nov 15
I will admit I'm surprised they all do it. I don't watch CNN and won't bother now, I refuse to watch Fox for the same reason. I trust ABC and that's the US news that I watch. I will be very disappointed to find out they are liars too. You just did a job on my trust bubble... but that's ok, i will do some research on this too because you made me... doubt my ABC.
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• Eugene, Oregon
17 Jan 16
I think that NPR is the least biased and most truthful news network we have.
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@Poppylicious (11133)
22 Nov 15
Even the BBC can no longer be trusted. I do take everything with a pinch of salt these days.
22 Nov 15
Oh, and I forgot to say, Trump and the Muslims sounds like a good title for a children's book!
@vickyrose (2235)
• Cooma, Australia
21 Nov 15
I hardly watch the news, I prefer reading books, non fiction mostly. To people who are vulnerable, yes, they can be effective manipulators.
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@UmiNoor (4483)
• Malaysia
11 Dec 15
That is why I don't watch the news anymore. It's incredible how the Western media manipulates facts to suit their own agenda.
@slund2041 (3315)
• United States
22 Nov 15
If he did not say it then it looks like CNN would be afraid of being sued. Can he sue them for lying on him? It is just like the famous people like Celine Dion. They have it out that her and her husband are getting a divorced. Why would they say that if it is not true? I hardly think Celine is divorcing her dying husband, who is on a feeding tube. If she is not divorcing her husband, can she not sue them for lying on her?
@moondebi (1199)
• Bangalore, India
22 Nov 15
Media makes the people see what they want to show. Unfortunately, many of the news are made with an intention of getting a higher publicity.
@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
23 Nov 15
That is really bad, I know they do manipulate things but this is beyond just that.
@Tampa_girl7 (48989)
• United States
22 Nov 15
The media can make you believe what they want.
@Inlemay (17714)
• South Africa
24 Nov 15
I hate it when the MEDIA edit out the important phrases - it gives the statement a new scenario - that is not how it is taught in Journalism school - that is how it is taught in Sensationalism school