Tolerance to retain family ties

@allknowing (153529)
India
November 26, 2015 8:44am CST
How far will you go to tolerate wrongdoings within the family to keep the family united. What is important keeping a family united or punishing those for their wrongdoings at the cost of the family splitting? I have kept a few members of our family apart for their wrong doing but the others are not bothered as they feel it is important to keep a family united. Your views please.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
26 Nov 15
Oh - I could tell you an eyeful about my parents and how they decided to do away with their own siblings - and they came from big families! But sparing the details, they were not tolerant of their siblings and cut them off while the others did keep united for the sake of "family". Me, I only have one sibling - and there have been a few incidents where she has overstepped the boundaries - but not what I would exactly call a wrongdoing. It's not worth splitting a family over - or perhaps I am more tolerant than my parents were.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
27 Nov 15
@allknowing I guess it depends on what the wrongdoing is. In the cases I speak of about my own family, it's not a wrongdoing in the sense of crime - it's more about trust and respectfulness - and breaking them. My mother's sister always tries to make my mother feel bad - telling her that their late parents are watching over them from "heaven" being sad that the family has been torn apart over her stubborness in holding grudges against her siblings. But my mother would say at least their late parents would know she does not live in a cover up of lies and deceit like they do!!!
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
@much2say It is sad that no effort is made to clear the air. I am in favour of that to just having a relationship that explodes now and then.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
26 Nov 15
Your parents may have been right having the courage to stand up . In the end an accusing finger is pointed out to the one who calls a spade a spade. This world would have been a better place if there was less tolerance of wrongdoings specially when it is done just to show to the world that they are a one big happy family
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@LadyDuck (502653)
• Italy
26 Nov 15
It's hard to reply, because it depends about who did what, for which reason and the gravity of the fact.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
26 Nov 15
It is understood that only a grave situation would call for intolerance but it is tolerated just to keep a family united.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
@LadyDuck But you won't believe Anna that even this type of behaviour is accepted by some and you see such people attending family gatherings.
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@LadyDuck (502653)
• Italy
27 Nov 15
@allknowing As an example, I cannot believe that you can tolerate that a brother (or sister) throw their children out of the house to go to live with another woman (man). I have known cases like this one.
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
26 Nov 15
I think it depends on how you want to handle the scenario and what is your relationship with one who is doing things wrong. In my context, I do not care anyone beyond my wife and then my brother and then my parents. Beyond them, if anyone tries doing wrong, and it is serious wrong, I will have no issues to cut off the ties. Learned it the hard way, but that is it today. I have severed relations with almost everyone else in the family, just because they did not stand by me or even had the time to call me up and ask about my being, when I was on the bed for those 8 months in 2008. And yes, as I said, I did learn it the hard way. But now, there is no issue
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
26 Nov 15
A wrongdoing no matter who has done it should be dealt with and not kept hidden under the carpet just so that family ties do not snap.
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
27 Nov 15
@allknowing Of course, that is right. And I think we should be open about this(dealing) even with non-family members like friends. For others, it might not be that necessary.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
@thesids There is so much muck everywhere hidden under the carpet or as they say a shut can of worms.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
27 Nov 15
For me , i won;t tolerate wrongdoings just as my father won't too . In ourfamily , if you err big time , you will be whipped by our father on your butt with his belt , when we were still children . I am glad we were raised that way , because no one got wayward .
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
What about your extended family. If any member has disgraced the family are they still welcome?
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
@SIMPLYD Every single member of this world is connected with some blood or the other. Accepting them with their wrongdoings results in a world full of wrongs. And as you say if there is redressal then the question of not accepting them into the fold does not arise.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
27 Nov 15
@allknowing Of course they will still be ,because no matter what they are of blood relations . They just don't have to do the misdoing again .
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@valmnz (17095)
• New Zealand
26 Nov 15
Each family is unique in the way they bond together. As far as I'm concerned family ties are held together by love, rather than by what any one member may do or not do in their lives. I wouldn't support major wrongdoings, but can accept deviations from the norm.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
26 Nov 15
Loving and tolerating are two different things. Tolerating to show to the world that all is hunky dory is what is happening in most families.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
26 Nov 15
@valmnz This discord between family members started right from the days of Cain and Abel.
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@valmnz (17095)
• New Zealand
26 Nov 15
@allknowing I find it sad that you say that, using the words most families.
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@jaboUK (64346)
• United Kingdom
26 Nov 15
It's difficult to answer your question as there are many degrees of wrongdoing. I'm lucky in that my family is close and we all love each other.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
26 Nov 15
Whatever be the degree it is noticed that top priority is given to see that family ties remain intact hiding the truth from society. If the same is noticed outside of a family then that is not tolerated. Happy to hear you have no issues to deal with.
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@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
27 Nov 15
I can't tolerate wrong doings. I always make sure anyone who commits wrong is exposed and restrained from doing the same no matter what it will cost.
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@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
27 Nov 15
@allknowing No matter what, I will stand for what is right. I believe it will even help the wrong doers to understand that they can't be tolerated and so they will not repeat the same.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
I wish there were many like you but when others in the family are not with you it becomes difficult.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
@allknowing Family is a small unit that forms the world and if every family takes care to see there are no wrongdoers can mean a lot to the world.
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• Preston, England
27 Nov 15
the feud with my sister has already strained past breaking point sadly - we haven't spoken in five years despite my efforts to compromise
@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
I would anyway prefer a compromise than pretend to the world that all is well.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
28 Nov 15
@arthurchappell This is going to the other extreme. There is a thing called redressal which one needs to practice and when this is done getting together becomes so much easier and enjoyable. Hope your sister realises this.
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• Preston, England
28 Nov 15
@allknowing there is little pretence - my sister won't invite me to family weddings or Christmas events - she is taking my mum out for Xmas leaving me alone though friends have invited me to their house for Xmas dinner
@lokisdad (4226)
• United States
28 Nov 15
It really does depend on what the wrong doing is. If it's just annoying then I simply dismiss it. If it's something that is harmful then I will not care much if it causes the family to break up what's the point to being united if it's not healthy.
@allknowing (153529)
• India
28 Nov 15
Good thinking. That's my point too. I believe in redressal. Before getting together it is important that amends are made and the hurt treated.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
28 Nov 15
@lokisdad A family unit plays a vital role in making the world and with family units where wrongdoings are swept under the carpet what can you expect this world to be And that is exactly what is happening these days.
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@lokisdad (4226)
• United States
28 Nov 15
@allknowing if the issues aren't addressed eventually they grow so big and spiral out of control and then nothing can be done to resolve it without conflict.
• United States
27 Nov 15
It would entirely depend on the circumstances before I would split my family apart for wrong-doings. It would have to be a most intolerable situation. Lucky I don't have to chose because my family is strongly united
@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
There are families that have luckily no issues to deal with but that is not the case with many. They put up with them just to stay united(sometimes ostensibly) rather than seek redressal and bury the hatchel.
@nanette64 (20363)
• Fairfield, Texas
27 Nov 15
When my mother passed away of cancer, two of my sisters couldn't wait to invade her home even though my mom had willed the house to my brother (who still lived there). He was a wuss and let them sell everything in it and one of the sisters moved in. The stress caused my brother to have 2 heart attacks @allknowing . They threw most of her valuable belongings in a dumpster. I hate those 2 sisters.
@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
I have heard of such situations but when there is a family gathering they will be there as though all is well.
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
27 Nov 15
It depends on what you mean by wrongdoing? To be intolerant for minor infractions will only work to tear the family apart completely in the long run.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
All of us are guilty of small doings. It is those doings if they were done by someone else we would never tolerate it like killing someone. Yes Even those kind of wrongdoings are put up with just so that family ties are not broken.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
@j otherust4him The example that I gave you about killing was an extreme case but there are serious issues too that can create havoc and yet they are tolerated for the sake of keeping the family united atleast ostensibly
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
27 Nov 15
@allknowing A major infraction involving the law would cause family ties to break down.
@paigea (36143)
• Canada
27 Nov 15
Well, if they are criminals I might want to keep them out of my home and just stay away from them altogether. I will put up with a lot of annoying behaviour to have everyone get together.
@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
@paigea Our own behaviour of showing resentment could perhaps make them realise that they have to change as being accepted without a whimper just to keep the family going would make them feel that they are not doing anything wrong. Just my view.
@allknowing (153529)
• India
27 Nov 15
Is there no way to seek redressal and then keep them united rather than put up with whatever there is.on an ongoing basis?
@paigea (36143)
• Canada
27 Nov 15
@allknowing sometimes there is, but we can't change others only choose our own responses.