One of the strangest questions that I have ever been asked

@Asylum (47893)
Manchester, England
December 1, 2015 2:22pm CST
Further to my earlier post about telephoning around for home insurance quotes, I telephoned a company that had recently sent me a circular. After quoting my address and name I answered all the expected questions about the building, past claims, door locks etcetera. Next we moved to a rather odd question of whether there were any rivers, streams or canals in the immediate area, to which I replied that there is a small stream further along the road. Despite this having no possible effect on my home, we then progressed to odd questions about the stream. First I was asked what the distance from my house was in metres, which I finally had to check via Google maps. The next question was absurd, what is the difference in elevation between my house and the stream. How can they possibly expect me to estimate the relative difference in height between my house and a stream about a quarter of a mile along the road? When I insisted that the question was impossible for me to answer, I was told that the information was essential and that a policy could not be processed without it.
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• United States
1 Dec 15
It would seem like a logical question if you were here in the US. Most insurance companies are leery of flooding since we've had so much here recently. However, most insurance companies should have all that information at hand when they get your address (or so you would think)
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
1 Dec 15
Could you state how many metres the nearest waterway to your home is either above or below your level? This information may be available for a major river or canal, but not for a small stream.
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@owlwings (43897)
• Cambridge, England
2 Dec 15
@Asylum I would have to get my phone out, start up GPS (and make sure I had a good signal with at least 7 or 8 visible satellites) and walk down to the stream. Even then, I wouldn't trust the height measurements, though the distance is usually accurate to within a few metres.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
@owlwings It was the relative height that totally stumped me, which is why I could not believe that I had been asked such an impossible question. They may as well have asked me how many people walk past my house every day who know the capital of Burkina Faso.
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@garymarsh6 (24119)
• United Kingdom
1 Dec 15
Insurers have been hit pretty badly over the last couple of years and since the recent decisions to build houses on the flood plains. I think the environment agency have a map sort of thing which shows if your house is at risk. I would have thought the insurance companies could check it out immediately just by popping in your postcode. Tell them to do their job properly as they should know instantly as soon as you give your postcode!
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
1 Dec 15
If I lived near the River Nile I would expect such questions, but not for an insignificant stream a quarter of a mile away.
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@Inlemay (17712)
• South Africa
1 Dec 15
water and flooding I suppose - we had a woman that had a leaking water drain pipe under her home which caused a sink hole and her lounge collapsed. THEY DID NOT PAY OUT = Water weakens structures. They ask that of us in SA if we live anywhere near flowing or drainage water
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
1 Dec 15
This is the third time that I have approached a company to insure this house, but the first time that anyone has asked me anything so bizarre.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
1 Dec 15
@Inlemay I simply intend to telephone some other company tomorrow, which I am confident will not result in such an unanswerable question.
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@Inlemay (17712)
• South Africa
1 Dec 15
@Asylum well i hope you get it insured if not, i hope there never is a rise in the stream
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@Dragonairy1 (1722)
• Newcastle Upon Tyne, England
2 Dec 15
I do mine online, and I think the standard question is, is there a river within about quarter of a mile. They are flood obsessed
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
Can you honesty state the difference in altitude between you home and the nearest river or stream? That is the part that totally bewildered me.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
@Dragonairy1 When I openly admitted that I had no idea of the relative altitudes, I was informed that the policy could not be processed without that information.
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• Newcastle Upon Tyne, England
2 Dec 15
@Asylum No lol, I actually ignore the great big river about half a mile from my house because it's down a really big bank with lots of grass and plants to soak up any water long before it gets to me.
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@antonbunot (11146)
• Calgary, Alberta
2 Dec 15
@Asylum . . I used to be a salesman for life and non-life insurance policies. What they are doing is they are trying to ask all those questions from you . . and all information you give them will be the basis of your future claims. This insurance company should send an assessor. I suggest you find another company.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
Surely they could not refuse to pay out on a claim for a burglary on the grounds that the elevation of the nearest stream was inaccurately recorded?
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
@antonbunot Thre is no risk of flood due to the stream, so that would not constitute a problem to me.
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@antonbunot (11146)
• Calgary, Alberta
2 Dec 15
@Asylum But if you have a flood-coverage, they may not pay you if you made an inaccurate description of the elevation, distance, and so on of the stream from your home. We seldom find an insurance company to FIND A WAY TO PAY YOUR CLAIM. . Most insurance companies ALWAYS FIND A WAY NOT TO PAY YOU!
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@gemmsky (177)
• United Kingdom
2 Dec 15
My parents now apparently live in a flood zone as there is a river nearby, however they are halfway up a hill, if they flood the rest of town is in serious trouble!
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
I can understand the company being interested in such risks, but why ask me questions that I have no hope of answering? Would you know the height difference between your parents' home and the river in metres?
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
@gemmsky Exactly my point, yet they refused to process the policy without that information. My response was to simply say "Okay" and terminate the call.
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@gemmsky (177)
• United Kingdom
2 Dec 15
@Asylum No, not a clue!
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@owlwings (43897)
• Cambridge, England
2 Dec 15
Some insurance companies have questions which are peculiar to them and have, presumably, been added because they have in the past had claims of that nature. There are maps of areas liable to flooding available (from the Ordnance Survey, I believe, and they are available free and online). Of course, if your house is in such an area, the insurance premium will be a lot higher and certain companies won't insure you at all. I think that if an insurance company began to ask me such detailed questions about a small stream some 500 metres away, I would probably laugh and ask whether they wanted my business or not!
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
I was totally bewildered that she spent 40 minutes on the telephone gradually working through a series of details, then declined to continue due to my inability to answer that question.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Dec 15
They should have the info at their end as they can't expect the customer to get it right. What if you had been unaware of the stream if you drove everywhere and never noticed it.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
3 Dec 15
I suspect that many of my neighbours are unaware of it because it is small and secreted.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
4 Dec 15
It their way of determining if your area is a flood prone areas because i don't think flood isn't included in the cause for claims.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
4 Dec 15
There is a large difference between checking if an area is susceptible to floods and asking what the relevant height of a stream is to the house.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
7 Dec 15
@SIMPLYD It would be difficult for them to inspect this because they would not be likely to find the stream easily.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
7 Dec 15
@Asylum Well, you are correct . However , those just asking , they will still inspect it sometime in the future after the submission of the forms .
@LadyDuck (502886)
• Italy
2 Dec 15
I suppose that want to evaluate the possibility that your house can be flooded by the water of the small stream. Insurers can be annoying with their questions.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
@LadyDuck In my case the road is not even a straight incline. The road lowers towards the end of my block then gradually undulates upwards a little, making such an estimate impossible. I cannot even see the road at the point where the stream would be nearby, so I have no guides to go by whatsoever.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
I have heard easier questions on the television show QI hosted by Stephen Fry.
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@LadyDuck (502886)
• Italy
2 Dec 15
@Asylum It's a weird question, I guessed the difference in elevation between our house and the stream, we are on a hill, so the different in elevation is not the same if taken in front of our door, or at the corner of the house. Those are silly questions. I know that we cannot be flooded by this small stream.
@IreneVincent (15960)
• United States
3 Dec 15
This obviously has to do with "FLOOD" insurance. What with all the flooding that has been going on in recent years, insurance companies have been hard hit, so I'm sure they have upped their level of caution on insuring any house that has even the slight possibility of being flooded.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
3 Dec 15
I bought the house in 1999 while it was still being built and there has never been any hint of flood potential. The stream is less likely to cause a flood than a mild rain shower would. If they want custom then I would not expect them to ask totally unanswerable questions such as height comparison between 2 points.
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@WorDazza (15826)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
I'm disappointed in you. Who hasn't got that sort of information immediately to hand? I expected more from a man of your calibre!!
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
I found it amusing when she told me that I could give her the information in metres, feet or yards and that she could convert it for me. A quick mental conversion would have been simply if I had any hope of making an estimate in the first place.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
3 Dec 15
@WorDazza If that idea had occurred to me I would not have been able to resist saying it. It always perplexes me if I say "I have absolutely no idea" and simply get the response of "But I need to know".
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@WorDazza (15826)
• Manchester, England
3 Dec 15
@Asylum You should have told her that 'no idea' is exactly the same in imperial and metric systems.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
1 Dec 15
I reckon they're expecting some flooding in your area?
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
1 Dec 15
That would not explain how they could expect me to know the relative altitudes of my home and the nearest stream.
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 Dec 15
It sounds like they were trying to determine if your home ever flooded and would need flood insurance due to the stream.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
1 Dec 15
I could easily have answered that, but had no chance of knowing the difference in altitudes in metres.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
@just4him This is the really odd thing about it, they asked me a question that cannot be a common one because otherwise they would constantly encounter a brick wall.
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
2 Dec 15
@Asylum I doubt many people do.
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@LeaPea2417 (40061)
• Toccoa, Georgia
2 Dec 15
Those are odd questions that I never would think they would ask.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
I have had several home insurance policies before but have never encountered anything this bizarre.
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• United States
3 Dec 15
They were trying to determine if you needed flood insurance.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
3 Dec 15
Everyone keeps telling me that, but flooding is not going to occur due to a minor trickle through the nearby sports field. If that was the only concern they would have simply insisted that I took out flood insurance. Instead they simply declined to continue without the precise elevation details.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
3 Dec 15
@AbbyGreenhill Are you suggesting that if there was a small stream 300 metres away from your home and you could not say for certain what the elevation was in relation to your house that nobody would insure you?
• United States
3 Dec 15
@Asylum Well, I only know how it works here.
@softbabe44 (5815)
• Vancouver, Washington
2 Dec 15
It's really a hard situation to be able to estimate something that you figure doesn't have anything to do with your house what's wrong with people anyway ask them to come take a look their selves probably not.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
I cannot even see the stream from my house, which makes even a basic assessment out of the question.
@1creekgirl (44560)
• United States
3 Dec 15
Do you think maybe it was a scam? Did you check them out with the Better Business Bureau? Oh, just realized you're not in the US. But it really was a strange question.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
3 Dec 15
The questioned seemed totally devoid totally devoid of logic, but I cannot see how it could be a scam. After all, they received no payment from me since they declined the policy.
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@nanette64 (20363)
• Fairfield, Texas
2 Dec 15
They are specifically looking to see if you're sitting in a flood zone @Asylum . If there's even the slightest chance that your property could get flooded, they won't pay. You'd have to get flood insurance specifically. And the elevation of your property in relation to the stream is critical.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
2 Dec 15
If it was even remotely possible to be considered a flood risk then I would be aware of it and probably of the elevation as well. However, to expect me to know such an obscure fact in relation to a small stream seems absurd.
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@Auntylou (4262)
• Oxford, England
3 Dec 15
I suppose this is about flood risk. It must be hard to gauge though and if you got it wrong and there were a flood, you might not be covered
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
3 Dec 15
It would impossible to judge because I cannot even see the stream from my home. As for flood risk, there is no fear of such incidents as a result of such an insignificant trickle.
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