The Wyoming – Proof Noah’s Ark Was Impossible

Photo taken by me - Saint Chad's - Manchester
Preston, England
January 7, 2016 12:11pm CST
Creationists believing in the literal truth of the Great Flood / Noah’s Ark myth are often challenged on how they could possibly have fitted millions of pairs of animals on board the ark, or even rounded up the animals between the Ark’s completion and the start of the Flood. What wasn’t credibly challenged before the 20th century was whether a big enough wooden ship could be built and kept seaworthy enough. In 1909, the US cargo ship, The Wyomng was to prove the Ark impossible, without even trying. The Wyoming was a six masted schooner 450 feet in length, and one of the biggest wooden ships ever built in recorded maritime history. The few ships contending for the title met the same tragic fate. It’s only steam engines were used to raise and lower its sails mechanically rather than manually. It travelled by sail, as the pre-industrial era Ark would have done, as eight rowers could not move such a vessel. The Wyoming's main cargo was coal. It’s voyages were mostly around the US coastal waters The ship’s long pine plankings twisted and warped badly at sea and the ship constantly leaked. Pumping engines were used in increasing desperation, before the ship finally sank with all fourteen hands near Massachusetts in 1924. The disaster ended the whole notion of building bigger and better wooden ships in the age of iron ships. The Wyoming was built by professional shipwrights and engineers, and crewed by highly experienced sailors. The disaster proved to be a serious nail in the coffin for the Noah’s Ark story’s most ardent believers. This is because; 1/. The Ark was believed to be bigger than the biggest wooden ships that were ever known to have been built, and they all failed without exception. 2/. The Ark was supposedly built by a farmer, his wife and three sons, and their wives, who also served as crew, zoologists and vets to over three million species during a storm ravaged continuous year long voyage. 3/. The Wyoming had a crew of fourteen professional sailors and an inert, stable cargo that did not need feeding, but its voyages were mostly in waters close to the coastlines, and they still needed continuous stops for repairs. Their ship eventually fell apart too much to survive. 4/. Even without its cargo, the Ark could not have been engineered, built, or sailed by such an inexperienced crew and it would have snapped apart and sank just as the Wyoming did. Game over, Noah! Arthur Chappell
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@Poppylicious (11134)
• United Kingdom
7 Jan 16
I've come to the conclusion that we need only concern ourselves with Biblical perceptions. Only the Middle East flooded {that was the *whole* world to them}, so the only animals that would have been on board would have been native to that area. Thus, the Ark didn't need to be that big after all. I think that there probably was a big flood {it's in the stories of other ancient religions - and it will no doubt occur again} and this story was just told to try to explain why so many people were lost. And obviously unicorns were native to the Middle East and that's why they don't exist anymore. Noah forgot to pop them on the Ark. D'oh. :)
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• Preston, England
7 Jan 16
or lots of separate floods - most human populations lived close to water - they had to be within walking distance of rivers to survive as did many animals so river deltas and flood plains that were good rich well watered soil were also flood traps - particularly bad floods would easily become the stuff of legends
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@pgiblett (6524)
• Canada
7 Jan 16
@Poppylicious I believe you are right, mut the story itself migrated from Mesopotamia where regular floods occurred and stores persist till today about the floods being because of the wrath of god.
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• United Kingdom
7 Jan 16
@arthurchappell Good point!
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@pgiblett (6524)
• Canada
7 Jan 16
I am not a great believer in the ark legend, but there is one element I will take exception to in your piece. In the modern day we automatically assume that the technology deployed by the ancients was inferior to that used today. It is my belief that the achievement of mankind have been cyclical in nature and there is no reason to assume technological levels in ancient times were poorer that ours today. I'll play devils advocate and ask why couldn't Noah have had the aid of superior technology?
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• Preston, England
7 Jan 16
@pgiblett some creationists claim humans were smarter then than now but there is no evidence for it outside the new age writings of Erich Von Danekin - these were people who listened to burning bushes and believed all kinds of supernaturalism
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@pgiblett (6524)
• Canada
7 Jan 16
@arthurchappell Thank you for adding such a great discussion. Erich Von Danekin and his pseudo science is not to be believed as he is known to have made up stories to fit whatever his story was at the time. The Noah and flood legend seems almost certainly to relate to ancient Mesopotamia with floods associated with the Euphrates and Tigris rivers and have little to do with the Mediterranean. There is little evidence that floods killed off every living creature on the planet. I agree about the logistics of building an ark, it would probably be the size of some of the great container ships sailing the ocean today.
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• Preston, England
7 Jan 16
@pgiblett yes, and none of those could carry every life form on Earth either
@irenen1 (228)
• New Bedford, Massachusetts
7 Jan 16
Localized flooding, boarded the family and immediate livestock. There was no need to navigate, just float until the water subsided. After that the story has been biblically enhanced.
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• Preston, England
7 Jan 16
yes very much that I expect - I have experienced flooding myself
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@LadyDuck (502622)
• Italy
8 Jan 16
I never thought that the Noah's ark has existed, at least not as the whole thing has been described. It is possible that they built an ark and they saved only the few animals of their farm, this sounds a lot more possible.
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• Preston, England
8 Jan 16
In a big flood by a lake or ocean it seems odd that only one family tried to escape the danger by getting on a boat - I would expect lots of boats and ships to be used
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• Preston, England
11 Jan 16
@LadyDuck it would involve a woman being pregnant a great many times - 1260 months pregnant (9 months x 140) though there might be some twins or triplets in there and a few premature births - it is still simply ridiculous
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@LadyDuck (502622)
• Italy
8 Jan 16
@arthurchappell I would expect too and talking about odd things, I cannot imagine how only two people generated all the humans being. According to the "legend" they had 140 children (?!).
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@amadeo (111937)
• United States
7 Jan 16
Hello and stopping by for a visit.I cannot add to this.But I do enjoy all the comments below.
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@Jessicalynnt (50523)
• Centralia, Missouri
8 Jan 16
I think perhaps god could make a portal so what was 'on' the ship was not, or used his powers to make it work, or heck, made angels float along and hold it together, heheh
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• Preston, England
8 Jan 16
@Jessicalynnt prehistoric Gaffa tape!
• Centralia, Missouri
9 Jan 16
@arthurchappell hmmmn, angel tape
@celticeagle (189915)
• Boise, Idaho
7 Jan 16
I agree with #4. I don't believe there was any superior technology. I think they were lucky to do what they did. Back then technology may not have been much but, it got people places. Danekin has done some great work and I have read many of his books. Some of his stories has seemed made up but when other work is so true then either had editorial rushes and had to perform or something. you'd think that if there is a God that he wouldn't let them go forward if it was not a worthy ship.
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• Preston, England
7 Jan 16
@celticeagle Danekin was caught planting evidence - he was a phoney - A god prepared to kill thousands of babies as a statement against evil would be up for anything - more realistically, no global flood, and no ark
• Greece
8 Jan 16
I believe in miracles. Hahaha! Kidding aside, the difference between the modern world and the ancient time is even if they don't have the latest technology, their survival skills is very high. They could do something impossible that people today try to think as illogical. Think of the Pyramid of Giza and other ancient architecture that people of the modern world can't imitate perfectly even with the latest technology.
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• Preston, England
8 Jan 16
yes we could build pyramids now - we can even do it with methods that would have been known to the ancient Egyptians - it has been tested
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• Preston, England
8 Jan 16
@olivetree27 it is a common urban myth that pyramid building is impossible now - it can be done
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• Greece
8 Jan 16
@arthurchappell I didn't know that. That would be cool though.
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@ria1606roy (2797)
• Kolkata, India
8 Jan 16
I like the fact that Noah's story has been refuted by an experiment and not just argument, though there were loss of lives and properties. I never believed in the literal interpretation, thought maybe some message is hidden underneath. But it makes for a good story to read and hear, we just have to know what is the truth and what isn't.
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• Preston, England
11 Jan 16
the Wyoming was not built by anyone planning to copy Noah's Ark - it was just built as a big wooden cargo vessel but it still proved what happens with such huge wooden craft
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• Kolkata, India
11 Jan 16
@arthurchappell okay I see, that's why it seemed strange it would be done to test a theory.
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