Tarred with the Same Brush

@JudyEv (382104)
Rockingham, Australia
January 30, 2016 9:24pm CST
I went to our writing group meeting last Friday. We had a workshop with a visiting author on writing a murder mystery for a Dinner in July event which is on the local agenda. The 20 to 30 minute skit will be the entertainment between the main course and sweets. There was a lot of interesting brainstorming of ideas. The skit will probably be a spoof on Midsomer Murders. We were discussing the various standard characters which might be used – the local vicar, the village idiot, a lord of the manor type, etc. Digressing for a moment, one hot topic in Australian newspapers is the ongoing investigations into allegations of paedophilia especially involving those in the church. This led to one of our members revealing that her husband, a minister, will not wear his dog-collar down the street for fear of being labelled a paedophile. I would have thought this was over-reacting a bit but it's very sad in any case. People can be very quick to brand everyone with the same brush, can't they?
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@jaboUK (64346)
• United Kingdom
31 Jan 16
Oh my goodness - that's a sad scenario. Regarding the Midsummer murders thing - be sure to have at least 4 murders - that seems to be the norm there
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@sueznewz2 (10409)
• Alicante, Spain
31 Jan 16
Yeah.... your right @jaboUk. It seems you can't just kill one person .... there's bodies popping up all over the place...
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@sueznewz2 (10409)
• Alicante, Spain
31 Jan 16
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@paigea (36143)
• Canada
31 Jan 16
Yes multiple deaths are an important part of the story!
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@IreneVincent (15960)
• United States
31 Jan 16
I wish I could join a writing group again. I was the secretary of West Virginia Writers for two years when I lived there and I was also involved with another group called WRAP. (Writers, Readers, Authors, Poets) I enjoyed it very much but have not been able to get involved with a group here in Virginia yet. I looked on line, but didn't really find anything that I thought was worthwhile.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
It isn't just a matter of joining a club really, is it? It needs to be a good 'fit' for you and not all are.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
@paigea That's a good idea but I don't think I'd be very good at starting one.
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@paigea (36143)
• Canada
31 Jan 16
You will have to start one.
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@zebra2222 (5268)
• United States
31 Jan 16
Some people act too quickly in making judgments of others.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
They certainly do and some just follow the example of others.
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@TheHorse (238314)
• Walnut Creek, California
31 Jan 16
What do dog collars have to do with abuse of children?
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@marlina (154103)
• Canada
31 Jan 16
@JudyEv First time ever I hear about a "dog collar" for the priest attire.
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@TheHorse (238314)
• Walnut Creek, California
31 Jan 16
@JudyEv Oh, I get it now.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
I was surpised that she called it a dog-collar. It's proper name apparently is clerical collar.
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@Missmwngi (12915)
• Nairobi, Kenya
31 Jan 16
They should not but too bad they do,thats the kind of world we live in
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@jstory07 (148734)
• Roseburg, Oregon
1 Feb 16
It should not but people are to quick to judge.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
1 Feb 16
@jstory07 People often support each other whereas they would not say something of their own accord.
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@Lucky15 (37391)
• Philippines
31 Jan 16
people, some will always think of...being cut on the same cloth
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
That is so true - and very unfortunate.
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@marguicha (230350)
• Chile
1 Feb 16
I agree with you that people are too quick to brand others. Your characters for the murder stories reminded me of the Agatha Christie´s books I read long time ago.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
1 Feb 16
We are all looking forward to concocting the play. It should be a lot of fun.
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@sueznewz2 (10409)
• Alicante, Spain
31 Jan 16
It's a shame that that still happens people tarring everyone with the same brush...., it happens in lots of different areas.... but like you I think that is an over reaction.... unless he has already been hassled by someone....
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
I was very surprised by my friend saying this. I would not have thought that people would judge so quickly unless someone has already made unkind remarks - as you say. There is plenty of suspicion against Muslims too but they don't all suddenly stop wearing the hijab.
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@sueznewz2 (10409)
• Alicante, Spain
31 Jan 16
@JudyEv that's true...., without wishing to appear ignorant..do you have many Muslims in Australia ??
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
@sueznewz2 We have 1/2 a million (2%) Muslims in Australia and Islam is the 4th largest religious group. I guess these figures are taken from the census. Many people would put 'no religion' I think in the census. There seems to be a lot, particularly in some areas in the cities. Most just want a peaceful life like the rest of us. It is the others that are a worry.
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@DeborahDiane (40847)
• Laguna Woods, California
1 Feb 16
Your murder mystery skit sounds like a lot of fun. My husband and I have gone to a couple of them and enjoyed them very much. I agree about people painting everyone with the same brush. It is a type of prejudice, isn't it?
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
1 Feb 16
Very much a prejudice, Deborah. So the vicar in the play, if we have a vicar, will be squeaky clean.
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• United States
31 Jan 16
Yes, very true. It is sad that so many monsters go into certain professions. But they do so because they have easy access to their victims.
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• United States
1 Feb 16
@JudyEv Coaches, clergy, scout troops, education. All are full of potential victims.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
1 Feb 16
@ElizabethWallace It astounds me that the perpetrators can be so charismatic. Somehow I tend to think they should all be sleazy on the outside as well as the inside.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
This is true. Another recent case involved the Supervisor of Boarding in a boarding school.
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@paigea (36143)
• Canada
31 Jan 16
Oh, my husband is like that. He just thinks all catholic priest are preying on little boys. I can't make him stop talking like that. He will admit that is incorrect when pinned down but then he will make some dumb comment. And this reminds me of a title I read on the side of my page here. Should petafiles be able to serve a sentence and get out of jail. Just goes with your other post.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
People like your husband speak without thinking sometimes (or even with thinking). Although abuse in the Catholic church system might have been the first to be uncovered, in Australia all churches are involved - also men in school boarding-houses, scouts, boys' groups, surf clubs, etc. I was very saddened to learn it had happened within the Salvation Army. For some reason I thought they would have been above such behaviour.
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@Auntylou (4262)
• Oxford, England
1 Feb 16
@JudyEv I think it can happen anywhere. Sports coaches, all sorts where adults are held in high esteem and are likely to have power over the young
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@paigea (36143)
• Canada
31 Jan 16
@JudyEv The true members of all of these organizations are above this behaviour.
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@Shiva49 (28385)
• Singapore
31 Jan 16
Definitely that is stretching this a bit far as there are bad apples everywhere - siva
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
Yes, it is a great shame he feels this way as he is a lovely man.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
@Shiva49 You are quite right. This man needs to hold his head high. Most in our small town would understand that not every minister is guilty of these misdeeds.
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@Shiva49 (28385)
• Singapore
31 Jan 16
@JudyEv It is because some are too sensitive. When I read a news item that a person from my profession (finance and accounts) or countryman has been up to no good, I also feel let down and it shows in my countenance for a while! siva
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@MarymargII (12422)
• Toronto, Ontario
31 Jan 16
I'll talk about the writing class as I'm interested in mysteries and would join if I was in Australia- yes- you have to have the chief of police and then the sidekick too and make the murder over money or an affair--lol! I have been a long time lover of Midsomer Murders for years! Love it!
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
Yes, we have the inspector and Jones and even a neurotic dog! Should be fun eventually. We had 15 members there which is virtually all the group. It is going strong at the moment.
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@MarymargII (12422)
• Toronto, Ontario
1 Feb 16
@JudyEv What a fun entertainment for you and your friends!
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• Philippines
31 Jan 16
Sad but hasty generalizations do happen. Like the saying, tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
I think it is sad. I didn't realise people felt so threatened by the publicity.
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• Philippines
31 Jan 16
@JudyEv really sad. People tend to go with the flow.
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• Preston, England
3 Feb 16
The move of no wearing the dog collar during such hysteria with hunts is wise. There have been cases of paediatricians being assaulted and in some cases killed because idiot vigilantes think any word starting paedo means the same thing
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@LadyDuck (502491)
• Italy
31 Jan 16
You are right, this seems a bit over reacting, but people tend to jump to conclusions. It is so sad what happened for years in Catholic churches and kept secret for fear of scandals.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
There are a lot of official enquiries here at the moment. It wasn't just the Catholic church, at least not in Australia. Anglican, scouts, even the Salvation Army, have all had many accusations made against them. It seems it was in any and every institution.
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@maggs224 (2317)
• Alicante, Spain
2 Feb 16
I can understand the vicar because people are very quick to respond to that kind of thing and often do so without thinking. I know that some years ago in the UK the house of a woman paediatrician was stoned and had paint thrown on it. The locals got the words paediatrician and paedophile mixed up. Just imagine what they would have done if it had been a man and they had got hold of him instead of his home. It doesn't bear thing about.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Feb 16
That's terrible that the paediatrician was attacked. Paedophiles often had a bad time in prison too and would get bashed. I don't know if it still happens.
@Dragonairy1 (1722)
• Newcastle Upon Tyne, England
2 Feb 16
That is a shame, people always seem so quick to think the worst.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
2 Feb 16
Especially where paedophilia is concerned I think.
@DianneN (254926)
• United States
31 Jan 16
We loved Midsomer Murders and watched every season. Should be fun! How awful that some people are so quick to judge and label others.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
31 Jan 16
I think he is over-reacting a bit really. The clergy are well-respected and liked in our town.
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@Auntylou (4262)
• Oxford, England
1 Feb 16
What a shame. Has there been a scandal about Australian priests too?
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
1 Feb 16
Very much so - in every religion. Also several boarding house masters, scout leaders - the list goes on and on.
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