California's infrastructure is no longer adequate

@TheHorse (238284)
Walnut Creek, California
March 25, 2016 10:50am CST
Several years ago, a gas main exploded in a Bay Area neighborhood, destroying houses and killing several people. Right now, part of the BART (our rapid transit) system is down, and nobody can figure out what's wrong. Our freeways are so crowded, it's impossible to get around in a timely fashion. Yesterday, I went down to Mountain View, near San Jose, to do some work related to my vintage loudspeaker restoration hobby. I got there in 45 minutes. But it took me more than three hours to get home. It was bumper to bumper traffic all the way home in the middle of the afternoon. I can see why a lot of people are grumpy here. I'm lucky that both of my main jobs are within 10 minutes of my house. If I had to commute regularly, I'd be grumpy too. I'll attach a photo I took yesterday while bored at a standstill on I-680. How are things where you live? Are the transit systems and roads adequate?
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@LadyDuck (502291)
• Italy
25 Mar 16
Our roads are crowded all the time. All the truck traffic from the south of Europe to North pass through Switzerland, because we have better roads and for them it is cheaper. Today is a holiday in the northern country at the border with Italy there is a waiting line of cars that is 9 miles long.
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@LadyDuck (502291)
• Italy
25 Mar 16
@TheHorse I believe a couple of hours, tomorrow it would even be worse. This is the reason why we never go to Italy for Easter.
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar 16
Wow.That sounds terrible. How long will it take for them to pass trough?
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@jaboUK (64346)
• United Kingdom
25 Mar 16
Our main motorways in the UK can be horrendous in rush hour, otherwise they mainly seem adequate.
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar 16
I was surprised yesterday that I couldn't get home at 2 PM in the afternoon. Fortunately, my afternoon kid client had been "naughty" in school, and his mother and I decided we should skip a week.
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@suzzy3 (8341)
25 Mar 16
Not to bad most of the time. If there is accident on the motorway our village roads get blocked right up.
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@suzzy3 (8341)
25 Mar 16
@TheHorse Wateringbury nr Maidstone. pretty little village In England
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar 16
Sounds like a place I'd like to live. Where are you?
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar 16
@suzzy3 Exactly the kind of place I'd like to visit after a hectic day here.
@crossbones27 (52905)
• Mojave, California
25 Mar 16
Many places have this problem, but ya, California has to be one of the worse places, especially with traffic. Not to make this political, but that is where these issues go all the time. While politicians are a major part of the problem. There is really two simple reasons why infrastructure in this country is failing. People's overall mindset. Everyone has to have a car and why waste money on mass transit. Another solution to help would be allow more people to work from home and make a living wage. That would cut down on traffic.The other reason is there is just to many darn people. The world really needs to focus on how over populated we are getting. We can't keep up with our own implemented system. By the time you train someone to do a job so they can fix things. It is outdated and they need to be retrained because we have some new set of codes to go by. Then, when they do get that one problem fixed 10 more pretty significant problems arise that we have never had to deal with before. I think we need to hit the pause button and rethink how ancient our economy and overall system is.
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• Mojave, California
28 Mar 16
@TheHorse I thought that is what we had prison workers for. Just kidding. That is actually part of the problem with unemployment. I think some would jump at the chance if it got their foot in the door so to speak. They could maybe get hired long time if they liked it and do well. If they do not like it. At least they would be working making a little something and it is much easier to find another job when you are working vs not working.
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 Mar 16
@crossbones27 But some people don't like work. I don't know enough about the WPA, and how it was implemented, to know how things might go.
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 Mar 16
If jobs were offered to the unemployed to fix our roads, even if the wages weren't great, would most jump at the opportunity?
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@Jessicalynnt (50523)
• Centralia, Missouri
26 Mar 16
yeah, dallas is like that too, our area, at worst you might have an hour if you go home DURING rush hour, you are better off, well waiting and leaving later, you will beat yourself home. I think MORE public transit needs created, busses and trains, Japan has a wonderful system, so much that while you may go an hour to get to work, you ride trains and such to get there, not many have cars
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• Centralia, Missouri
26 Mar 16
@TheHorse they dont have room for ppl to use their own cars, bicycles sure, cars no. so as the population got bigger I assume they integrated public transit into growth. shoot there is literally NO land avail for parking.
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Mar 16
@Jessicalynnt I wonder if their relatively cooperative culture makes things go more smoothly as well.
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Mar 16
Beat yourself home. I like that! I've never been to Japan. I wonder why theirs works so well.
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@RussTeed (1498)
• United States
26 Mar 16
I live near Boston and traffic there is always awful. The Big Dig didn't help much and it cost a fortune.
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 Mar 16
What was the Big Dig?
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 Mar 16
@RussTeed Sounds fairly typical. What city are you in?
@RussTeed (1498)
• United States
28 Mar 16
@TheHorse Our politicians thought it would be a good idea to build a tunnel where cars could drive under the city. It cost double the budget and took about 12 years to finish - traffic is still outrageous.
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@mammots (3209)
• Philippines
26 Mar 16
Some of our national roads are still too narrow and cant accomodate the increasing number of cars and other forms of vehicles in our city. Our traffic situations are getting heavier everyday especially now that road widening projects and repairs are being undertaken while its still summer season.
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@mammots (3209)
• Philippines
26 Mar 16
@TheHorse Its just a little bit of inconvenience on the commuters part but its a worthy sacrifice "for a better tomorrow"
@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Mar 16
Yes, we have lots of "construction zones" too.
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• United States
25 Mar 16
y'all've jest too many folks squished'n yer neck'f the woods :) i'm fortunate not to've such, though goin' into town kinda makes one wish they'd stayed't home. there's no transit systems here, nary a cab to call 'n our roads? laughable 'xcept fer main street which'n they've been smart 'nough to leave cobblestone.
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• United States
25 Mar 16
@TheHorse there's a lil town'n texas that i'd say a good 70% 'f the place's still cobblestone. beautiful schtuff, though horses dislike bein' transported 'cross such, lol.
@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar 16
Cobblestone? That sounds sweet!
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@sallypup (69162)
• Centralia, Washington
25 Mar 16
Transit systems? What transit system?? If I need to go very far I need to have a decent car or walk down some busy roads that do not leave room for such venturing. Greyhound here twice a day- morning and like 2 a.m. Amtrac train is north of us about 15 miles and I think it runs around midnight or so. Fun times here.
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@sallypup (69162)
• Centralia, Washington
26 Mar 16
@TheHorse The signs say 20 thousand. The hordes that are everywhere scream 40 thousand.
@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar 16
Sounds like Moses Lake is not a huge city.
@nanette64 (20363)
• Fairfield, Texas
26 Mar 16
Fortunately I live in a rinky-dink town (3,000). There is no bus or taxi system but it's not needed here. Now when I used to work in Irving, Tx, It took me 2 hours 1 way to get to work. Not that the traffic was bad but it was 125 miles to get there. 2 hours up, 2 hours back and a 10 hour work shift. They are considering a speed train from Houston to Dallas. Maybe that's what you guys need there @TheHorse .
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Mar 16
They're always proposing one from the Bay Area to the LA area, but that wouldn't help what's happening here.
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@nanette64 (20363)
• Fairfield, Texas
26 Mar 16
@TheHorse Even if they did overhead rail systems where you are, it would take years for them to build them and cost a fortune.
@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
25 Mar 16
The roads are good, but I wouldn't say the transit system is great, but it is adequate.
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar 16
Green Bay isn't that huge a city, is it?
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
25 Mar 16
@TheHorse No, just over a 100,000. It's real easy to get around, but the bus system makes it hard and where by car it can take 10 minutes, by bus it can take two hours. You can get anywhere in the city by car within half an hour. Usually no more than fifteen minutes. The longest it takes to get anywhere here is on Packers game day. Then it's nearly impossible.
@msiduri (5687)
• United States
25 Mar 16
It never ceases to amaze me how much traffic there is when I leave for my early morning writing session.
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Mar 16
Where in the US are you?
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@msiduri (5687)
• United States
26 Mar 16
@TheHorse Orange County, CA. It often looks a lot like your pic.
@Lucky15 (37391)
• Philippines
25 Mar 16
I can bet my country's traffic experience and the transportation secretary once said...traffic is not fatal. Like what??? We have the worst. Even with railways. Tsk
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Mar 16
Sorry to hear. You have lots of islands to deal with, don't you?
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@Lucky15 (37391)
• Philippines
26 Mar 16
@TheHorse with 7 thousand plus and some are being claimed by China..yep :(
@teamfreak16 (43579)
• Denver, Colorado
25 Mar 16
Colorado Springs has a massive pothole problem. I mean, it's really bad. Glad I don't own a car, the alignment would need regular work.
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar 16
I visited friends that at Colorado College in my younger days. It seemed like a medium sized town back then.
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@teamfreak16 (43579)
• Denver, Colorado
25 Mar 16
@TheHorse - Last I heard, it was close to 500,000 residents.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Mar 16
by the middle of the afternoon free ways here slow down too. if there is a accident then it really stops.
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar 16
They're widening some freeways around here, but many are going to be the same for years.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Mar 16
@TheHorse I know and so many times I h ave been stuck waiting o n the freeway once i was in an access bus and we found out that four cars had crashedi nto each other the driver said well good we are late had we been there we might have got hurt too I areed that sure cou ld have happened
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
26 Mar 16
I think they have to rebuild the whole infrastructure in the state. For one thing, they have to build up water treatment plants to ensure an adequate supply of drinking water in case of serious droughts. They have to look into the public transportation system. Over here, we get grumpy if the public buses come at more than 15 minutes interval. That is unacceptable during peak hour.
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Mar 16
Interesting. To worry about safe drinking water would be terrible.
@amadeo (111937)
• United States
25 Mar 16
The roads are awful.This time of the year.We have so many pothole to avoid.Right now they are not doing anything.Till the weather warmed up.In the meantime.Drivers suffer
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@amadeo (111937)
• United States
25 Mar 16
@TheHorse We are in New England.New Hampshire.Live Free or Die
@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar 16
Where in the US are you?
@pgntwo (22405)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
25 Mar 16
Route 17 from San Francisco towards Santa Cruz can be busy enough, even at 1am, never mind during the peak work rush hours. Too many cars, not enough mass transit infrastructure.
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@pgntwo (22405)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
25 Mar 16
@TheHorse Had my only mojito in the Dream Inn (or whatever it is called now) overlooking the bay in Santa Cruz a few years back.
@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar 16
Ben there and done that. Sometimes it's smooth sailing. Sometimes it's pure he**. I visit Santa Cruz about twice a year.
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@DianneN (254949)
• United States
26 Mar 16
It is fine up north where my main home is, but can be brutal going in to NYC, unless you know when and when not to drive in. We have great trains, but seldom use them. In FL, the highways are 5 and 6 lanes, and usually busy during rush hour traffic. Neither are as bad as the traffic in Southern California! We never had a problem driving in San Fran or to San Jose. Driver luck, I'm guessing.
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@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Mar 16
Either good timing (Bay Area) or you haven't been here in a couple of years.
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@Macarrosel (7498)
• Philippines
25 Mar 16
Oh, I thought these only happen in our country - third world country- and not in your country that belongs to the first world country.
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@mimiang (3760)
• Philippines
26 Mar 16
same thought . I thought that we are the only ones having problems wit h the road
@TheHorse (238284)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar 16
Around major metro areas, it can be terrible.