Is This An Alternative Fact

Preston, England
February 3, 2017 9:55am CST
Is This An Alternative Fact? The use Trump and his team have made of the phrase ‘alternative facts’ has rapidly pushed the phrase into popular usage. The trouble is that it is often being directed at things that are not, and never were intended to be seen as ‘facts’ in the first place. The phrase originates in its current form from the Trump camp efforts to dumb down the actual fact that the number of live on scene spectators to Trump’s inauguration was very low compared to the crowd turn outs for other incoming presidents, especially Trump’s immediate predecessor, Barack Obama. Though film footage and media photos show clearly that there were vast gaps and empty spaces in Trump’s crowd compared to high people congestion in such areas when Obama was sworn in to the White House, Trump’s team declare over and over that Trump had more supporters. They claim that the footage, photos and eye-witness accounts are wrong or doctored to give a false view. They want to present the established objective truth itself as somehow inaccurate or conspirational. They call it counter-factual and alternative factual. Of course, the real counter-facts are the ones they hope to get their supporters to believe. The problem is that the phrase relating to facts, evidence and proofs is often being applied to opinions, speculations and non-factual thoughts. If I said the Battle of Hastings took place in 1079 that would simply be seen as inaccurate. It would only be if I was to start claiming that all the evidence that it happened in 1066 was wrong to maintain my flimsy case for 1079 that I would be trying to dismiss the actual facts as counter-facts. A variation on this is ‘fake news’, the notion that a news report is so full of inaccuracies and / or alternative facts as to be total fiction presented as propaganda – the phrase again gets used by the oppositions on both sides of a story dismissing the other side’s case as fake until readers, viewers and listeners don’t know what to believe and gut instinct opinion decides them in favour of one view over the other. Virtually anyone arguing a radical, contentious claim, be it fact, opinion, hypothesis, theory or vague off the cuff notion, risks someone leaping up yelling fake news even if it isn’t. This is how witch hunt hysteria starts. It is extremely dangerous. A big problem now is that the label ‘counter-fact’ is being thrown at any political thoughts the commentators disagree with or dislike. It is used as a casual dismissive label in the same way as poor poetry was often written off with the label of doggerel. It basically says, this is rubbish, give it no further attention. To say someone is being counter-factual is actually making out they are wilfully lying rather than just being incorrect and inaccurate or expressing a contrary view on something not factual. A single error in a long argument risks getting the entire presentation discredited as counter-fact even if the rest is flawless. The statement that abortion is wrong is no more factual or counter-factual than its counter-claim that a woman has the right to choose whether or not to have an abortion. Much of the debate between both for and against is emotive, and opinion. Facts or counter-facts enter in if claims are made that can be verified, or which draw reference to known testable aspects of biology, law, history and pregnancy among other things. Similarly with Trump’s political and media captured private behaviour. Many people get quite heated just by the raising of Trump’s name and others see intrusion into his domestic life as off-limits. Clearly his big political decisions such as his retreat from Obamacare and signed calls by Trump to build the wall around Mexico are more important than how well he gets on with his family. However, with a major area of concern being his overall negative stance on women, misogynistic comments and allegations of abuse by women he has been close to is making people look closely at footage of Trump involving women. The two closest women to him are his daughter Ivanka and his second wife, the First Lady Melania. Therefore it is no surprise that commentators look at footage of the two key ladies flinching from Trump or looking uncomfortable in his presence will spark emotion, thoughts, reaction, etc. Quite a few Youtubes are surfacing interpreting information that could be seen to indicate that Trump is sexually molesting his daughter and physically or mentally bullying his wife. Much of this speculation is just that, speculation, based on the way the viewer / film makers interpret every facial expression and look exchanged between the parties. The enclosed Youtube presents itself as ‘proof’ that Trump is abusing his wife. It shows her at various times looking unhappy, detached, uncomfortable, putting brave smiling face on with Trump, looking away in more sombre mood when he is not looking, etc. The assertion that it is ‘proof’ is embarrassingly misleading as it offers speculation and opinion. However, it is an interesting, well edited video, though over-using atmospheric music to underscore its case. I liked the video enough to share it with little comment from me on a few forums and posted the link to friends. It was my friends who quickly lambasted me for posting what they see as counter-Trump fake news, in some ways treating it as a part of our descent into a world of opinion peddled as news. The video is not news at all. It simply scours existing Trump related material to pick from to make an argument the film maker wants to present. Though it has an anti-trump stance anti-Trump activists rightly ask if it is making a valid case as the last thing they (we) need is someone using the very dirty tricks tactics some pro-Trumpers resort to but again, blanket dismissal of anything remotely flawed as fake news and alternate facts is as dangerous as actual alternate facts. Those so keen to dismiss the video listed below as if it was a professionally produced piece of conspirational propaganda fail to see the one clear fact there is about it – the video was knocked together by a 16 year old boy in Birmingham. (which Birmingham is unclear). Many of its points and opinions still raise valid concerns. Arthur Chappell
First Lady Melania Trump is an abuse victim of President Donald Trump. Here is the recent proof of the domestic abuse that seems to be occuring in the First ...
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13 responses
@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
3 Feb 17
There are so many ways to spin facts when a person is so inclined to promote a certain viewpoint.
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• Preston, England
3 Feb 17
@FayeHazel yes there are frightfully many ways to achieve such extreme power and corruption
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@egdcltd (12059)
3 Feb 17
The problem with the internet, and so much these days, is opinions are being presented as facts, without actually going through the scientific method to prove them. Indeed, anything which contradicts the case is ignored, and then idiots believe it (I have a friend who keep reading/watching stuff online and believing it. He's now believing the Holocaust is made up, and didn't believe me when I said he was listening to people who supported Hitler). I also came across today again #FoxNewsFacts, when a Fox News "expert" claimed that Birmingham was a no-go zone for non-Muslims. He had to publicly apologise for that, saying he hadn't done the proper research. To claim what he did, I think it's more likely he made stuff up not realising that people in the UK would notice it for the rubbish it was.
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• Preston, England
3 Feb 17
@egdcltd sadly there are people in the UK who believe such nonsensical conspirational claims about no-go zones in strong muslim and black communities
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@egdcltd (12059)
3 Feb 17
@arthurchappell Having been to both Birmingham and Bradford, as well as other parts of West Yorkshire, I've never felt remotely threatened in strongly Muslim areas, when shopping and eating out.
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• Preston, England
3 Feb 17
@egdcltd Same here, I worked in Oldham for a time which was the centre of similar allegations and often gets targetted by racists but I never felt remotely threatened in its muslim districts
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@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
4 Feb 17
Doesn't surprise me a bit. He has to have a place to take out the "truth" on. He is so delusional that there has to be a place to put all that frustration, anger and etc. He abused his first wife because the plastic surgeon didn't do his hair implants the way he thought they would be done.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
9 Feb 17
It sickens me that nobody ever talks about that incident with Ivana when she also actually accused him of RAPE. I know, she later recanted but it's likely she was threatened and/or paid off handsomely. He's now on wife number three with each one being younger than the one before. Will we see number four before or after his impeachment?
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@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
9 Feb 17
@anniepa ......Yes, she later recanted. It was in her book. He is a cad and a liar. His money talks in sad and pathetic ways. People are saying that wife number three is also abused.How much does a woman under such conditions takes before she gets out? Do you know the entire story of why Ivana was brutalized?
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
9 Feb 17
@celticeagle I read something about him being angry because he wasn't satisfied with how "her" plastic surgeon covered his bald spot. WHAT A JERK!!!
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@PatZAnthony (14749)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
3 Feb 17
There is so much going on with all of that right now. Most realize the expression about alternative facts just does not make sense. Now today, not tomorrow, not ever will this expression make sense.
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@Jessicalynnt (50523)
• Centralia, Missouri
4 Feb 17
I do admit, there is so much out there now it's hard to determine what is indeed real and what has been edited or is intentionally slanted.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
13 Feb 17
So true but I have to admit I'm far less likely to give Trump any "benefit of the doubt" than I would be if it were just about anyone else on earth. He's earth scum and I tend to believe the worst of him.
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• Preston, England
15 Feb 17
@Jessicalynnt hard to find any likable redeemable aspects to him at all
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• Centralia, Missouri
14 Feb 17
@anniepa yeah, you can go back through his history of recorded things and things HE himself tweeted and stuff, and he is a horrible man
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@msiduri (5687)
• United States
15 Feb 17
Am I convinced that Trump is an egotistical jerk? Yes. The video does not convince me he's abused his wife.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
9 Feb 17
Who knows if he's abusing Melania but there's some reason she doesn't seem to want to live under the same roof with him. Anyway, what I mainly wanted to say was no matter what you choose to call them, "alternative facts" or something else, what they really are are LIES.
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• Preston, England
9 Feb 17
@anniepa very much just lies, and extremely dangerous ones at that
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@crossbones27 (52907)
• Mojave, California
3 Feb 17
I wish I could write as good as you. What a well thought out and written post. All I know is teachers really have their work cut out for themselves. I see this in my favorite music of punk rock all the time.. How most bands teach to think for yourself, but then their very own fans go on there and contradict their music. Spin it to their beliefs and I get music is all perception. To bad it is so blatant that they are distorting the bands true meaning of their own songs to try to make it fit with their own self interests and ideology. I have such a disdain for people who do this.
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@bluesa (15022)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
3 Feb 17
@arthurchappell , media and news is in an uproar with fake news coming out daily. I am not certain of what is true or false anymore, I just know it is a very disturbing time, with a lot of hate about.
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@DianneN (254949)
• United States
3 Feb 17
That megalomaniac is in town today. I had such difficulty picking up my brother, and later, my nephew from the airport. You should see the protesters!
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@vickyrose (2236)
• Cooma, Australia
4 Feb 17
The Trump camp has to manipulate to promote and justify themselves. Alternative fact is just not fact a way of disguising the truth, it may also be half truth half false. He's now the president, it doesn't really matter how many came to his inauguration. His team should just worry about his daily activities
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@JudyEv (381739)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Feb 17
Excellent post with much food for thought. It is vital to try to stay impartial when reading/viewing much of the stuff we are bombarded with nowadays.
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@teamfreak16 (43567)
• Denver, Colorado
6 Feb 17
I watched it, and it's all the proof I need that he's beating the crap out of his wife! I think he's a detestable human being (always have) but it proves absolutely nothing. Very well written piece. As usual. Thank you for that.
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