Waiting for the sales pitch. Sigh.

@TheHorse (238349)
Walnut Creek, California
September 7, 2018 1:18pm CST
I just received a phone call from Who's Who in America. Because I've published a bunch of "scholarly" articles, and because I've done good stuff in the community, they want to give me a "lifetime achievement award," which includes a detailed biographical sketch about me, complete with pictures, on the internet. The lady on the other end was nice, and asked me a bunch of questions about the articles I've written, who my major influences were, etc. But when she started mentioning how their biographical narrative would "increase my web presence" (something I don't particularly care about), I started wondering when the sales pitch would occur. It wasn't until about 25 minutes of conversation (during which I got to make myself sound like a Saint) that it became apparent I'd have to pay for all of this. Alas, Who's Who is just another "vanity press." When I let her know that I wasn't interested in buying anything, the conversation ended pretty quickly. Do you have any experience with "vanity presses"? They include books/websites like Poetry.com, where you can have your poem published, no matter how good it is or is not. They bank on a certain number of "published" poets buying the volume their "work" is in. The cost is pretty high, perhaps around $100. As University of Chicago Economist Milton Friedman used to say (I think he may have written a book using it as a title): "There's No Such Thing as a Free Lunch."
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@andriaperry (118793)
• Anniston, Alabama
7 Sep 18
Nope never. But I am not as popular as you are. well, there is a poem I wrote in some book someone bought but that was ions ago, the company has probably expired by now.
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@TheHorse (238349)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Sep 18
As long as YOU didn't buy it, life is good.
@BarBaraPrz (51838)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
7 Sep 18
Tanstaafl... I don't know who came up with it, but Robert Heinlein popularized the phrase in his 1966 novel The Moon is a Harsh Mistress at least a decade before Friedman used it.
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@TheHorse (238349)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Sep 18
It dates back to at least the early 20th Century.
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@BarBaraPrz (51838)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
7 Sep 18
@TheHorse But actually, there are free lunches put on by church groups, etc., and if you have a Costco membership and time it just right, you can get quite a good feed from the demonstrations... Janet Evanovich referred to it as the "seniors' buffet" in one of her Stephanie Plum novels.
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@TheHorse (238349)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Sep 18
@BarBaraPrz What is the "cost"? You may become devoted to that church. You may buy more at Costco. Just being cynical.
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@amadeo (111937)
• United States
7 Sep 18
No I never wrote a poem.What is that.Did I miss out something.
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@TheHorse (238349)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Sep 18
Eh, it's a bunch of words, designed to be ambiguous, thrown together by someone who is too lazy to write prose. I wouldn't worry about it.
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@Morleyhunt (21741)
• Canada
7 Sep 18
They mKe it sound so attractive...and such a wonderful opportunity. Somehow...that carrot is so tempting.... It's knowing how to spot the line attached to the hook (carrot).
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@TheHorse (238349)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Sep 18
What made it interesting (assuming she's ultimately a "sales" person) is how long she spent with me before the hook was shown. Was it a waste of her time? I understand the psychology behind it. It ties in with what is commonly (among psychologists) called "cognitive dissonance." If I (the potential buyer) spent that long with her, I must really like the "product." That's how it's supposed to work. But her time investment makes me wonder how many people "fall for it." It must be pretty high.
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@cintol (11261)
• United States
7 Sep 18
Yes, I got roped into one of those years and years ago but I never talked to anyone. It was all done through the mail and yes, I did buy the book my poem is in for $29. Its ok though because back then it wasn't much and its a nice thing to have for the grand kids. Sounds like you have done a lot in your lifetime, you should be proud of what you have accomplished.
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@TheHorse (238349)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Sep 18
I suppose I am, but ultimately, I just hope that I've helped people, even if I never get "famous" for it.
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@cintol (11261)
• United States
8 Sep 18
@TheHorse I bet you have helped more people than you will ever realize
@JudyEv (382412)
• Rockingham, Australia
9 Sep 18
She would have had me roped in hook, line and sinker till I found out I had to pay.
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@TheHorse (238349)
• Walnut Creek, California
9 Sep 18
Yep. I kind of knew the money part was going to come. But I played along, as I had nothing else to do at the time.
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@TheHorse (238349)
• Walnut Creek, California
10 Sep 18
@JudyEv I wish I had the nerve to play along for longer.
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@JudyEv (382412)
• Rockingham, Australia
10 Sep 18
@TheHorse Vince does that with some scam telephone calls. Plays along for something to do till he gets tired of the game.
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@FourWalls (86812)
• United States
8 Sep 18
I got to write a blurb in the Oxford Encyclopedia of American Music. I got a $20 "honorarium" and a discount to buy the book for only $995!!!!
@LadyDuck (502726)
• Italy
8 Sep 18
No, I had no experience with "vanity press", but when someone starts to offer me something, before replying to any question I ask "how much?", if I have to pay the conversation stops there. I see no reason to discover personal details.