Does It Matter if a Supreme Court Justice Lies About Minor Things?
@DeborahDiane (40850)
Laguna Woods, California
September 28, 2018 11:13pm CST
I accept that we need to have justices from both the left and the right. That is why I never objected when Chief Justice John Roberts or any other justice was nominated. As far as I know, none of the current justices have lied under oath although, of course, I could be wrong.
I do not know if Judge Kavanaugh lied during his Senate hearings about abusing Dr. Ford while he was a teen, or any of the other activities he has been accused of.
However, he did lie about being of legal age to drink when he was a teenager. The State of Maryland, where he lived, changed their drinking age from 18 to 21 while Kavanaugh was still 17. At no time during his teens was it legal to drink beer, or anything else, while he was a teen.
Now, I freely admit that I drank while underage, and even experimented with marijuana in my youth ... 50 years ago. I imagine that the vast majority of teenagers did something similar. Kavanaugh could have admitted the same thing and I believe most people would have nodded and said, "Well, I did, too, and at least he was honest about his teenage behavior."
However, he chose to lie about his illegal drinking and make himself sound like a saint, claiming that he only drank legally and spent all his free time studying, playing basketball or going to church.
Does it matter? This is an honest question. Does it matter if someone who wants to be a Supreme Court Justice would lie about something so insignificant? Does it make it make it more likely that he would also lie about doing something serious? If he lied about that, did he also lie about what he did to Dr. Ford? Did he also lie about his behavior at Yale?
Are these the reasons he did not ask to prove his innocence by taking a lie detector test? Are these the reasons he did not ask for an FBI background check on these accusations?
I don't know, but it will be interesting to find out the truth, especially now that I know he is not reluctant to lie about minor things.
What do you think?
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@andriaperry (118793)
• Anniston, Alabama
29 Sep 18
I have yet to find a saint walking the earth. No one is without sin. I have a problem with the woman not filing charge back then. I was a teen and I turned it in when I was sexually assaulted, why would they wait? there is no proof now, just he said she said.
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@andriaperry (118793)
• Anniston, Alabama
30 Sep 18
@DeborahDiane A lie is a lie. but that dos not matter because the ones to place him are also liars.
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@DeborahDiane (40850)
• Laguna Woods, California
30 Sep 18
@andriaperry - Good point. Liars are more willing to accept other liars. I'm sure they think he is just fie.
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@DeborahDiane (40850)
• Laguna Woods, California
2 Oct 18
@DianneN - Ha ha! Yes, I liked this photo, too. More and more lies have been coming out. Now, they apparently have text messages in which he tried to influence potential witnesses to some of the things he did at Yale. That should be the end of him, but I'm afraid they will still vote him in! He wanted to refute his accuser's claims before they became public.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/mutual-friend-ramirez-kavanaugh-anxious-come-forward-evidence-n915566
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@DeborahDiane (40850)
• Laguna Woods, California
2 Oct 18
@DianneN - I agree that it would be a crime. We need judges who are as moderate and non-partisan as possible, who uphold the law and who do not try to change it. Kavanaugh does not fit that description, even aside from all the questionable personal decisions he has made in the past.
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@DianneN (254926)
• United States
2 Oct 18
@DeborahDiane Thanks for sharing that. I've been following the news, too. I know. I know. I am worried, but if he is voted in, it would be a crime in itself!!!!!
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@DeborahDiane (40850)
• Laguna Woods, California
30 Sep 18
@jstory07 - That seems to be a recurrent theme in the answers. I agree that the fact that she did not bring it up sooner is a problem. On the other hand, why would he lie about something so ridiculous and indicate he was drinking legally when he knew he was not? I sure knew I was drinking illegally when I was a teen. It makes me not trust him in general. But, I can understand why some people question her story, too.
@DeborahDiane (40850)
• Laguna Woods, California
30 Sep 18
@JudyEv - Yes, that is an issue. I'm sure she must have known a few years ago that he was an appellant judge. I do wonder why she didn't say something a few years ago. However, at the hearing she looked terrified, so I think this whole thing has been traumatic for her. I think she would have preferred not to say anything.
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@DeborahDiane (40850)
• Laguna Woods, California
30 Sep 18
@JudyEv - Yes, it was very stressful for her. I watched the entire interviews of both of them ... lots of TV. She was upset and stressed. He was flippant and arrogant, often refusing to directly answer a question, or only answered by saying he was a good student and basketball player, so he didn't have time to party in high school. Ridiculous. At the end of it, even my friends who were neutral said she was more believable.
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@JudyEv (382457)
• Rockingham, Australia
30 Sep 18
@DeborahDiane In the short clip I saw she did seem to be under a lot of stress.
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@Daljinder (23193)
• Bangalore, India
3 Oct 18
Whether he assaulted Dr Ford or not, I am not buying his virginal Church going choirboy persona he tried to portray. I watched the whole testimony. He deflected answering and was back talking to the Senators questioning him rather than answering. Why do that if he is innocent? By doing that even if he is innocent, he became suspicious.
And as you said that drinking underage is minor. If it is so minor why did he lie about that? He was a teenager. Teenager do many stupid things. He didn't need to lie about it.
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@DeborahDiane (40850)
• Laguna Woods, California
4 Oct 18
@Daljinder - I agree. He was definitely not a virginal, church going choirboy. There is too much information to contradict that, including a letter he wrote his friends about "beach week." My concern is that these were not just youthful indiscretions. He has actually tried to tamper with witnesses and lie to the Senate about his activities. Those things alone should disqualify him.
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@DeborahDiane (40850)
• Laguna Woods, California
30 Sep 18
@NJChicaa - Yes, you are right. He lied about those things, too. With so many little lies, it is hard to believe he did not lie about the big things.
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@DeborahDiane (40850)
• Laguna Woods, California
4 Oct 18
@Daljinder - Yes, the Devil's triangle. Either he was misinformed or he intentionally lied about that. It sounds like he was a very wild young man. My question is whether he has continued to lie to hide past behavior and why he has not offered to take a lie detector test to prove his innocence. His extreme agenda seems inappropriate for the Supreme Court, too.
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@Daljinder (23193)
• Bangalore, India
3 Oct 18
@NJChicaa Yes I almost forgot about that. Devil's triangle lol a drinking game. As if.. 
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