*siiiiiiiigh* So apparently God made my dad sick....to help him....
@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
Perth, Australia
May 1, 2019 7:18am CST
Not that long ago, I did a post about my Aunty and how she is a "Christian." Like usual I will state that I'm not religious but I have an open mind. I NEVER say "This isn't real" or "This is real" unless I have something to back it up with. That is just me! I will also say again that I respect what other people believe in because it's their choice. ONLY time I have something to say is if they are harming others in one way or another. Or they keep saying morbid things that makes their religion sound ugly. To which my Aunty keeps doing over and over. I don't take her Christianity seriously.
Just a recap: She has told me I'm going to hell. Told me that my mum is in hell. Has said that God gave her husband ( my Uncle ) cancer to better her life. She has said that God made my dad sick to keep her occupied in her life. (she helps drive him to doctor appointments). And some other dots she connects that sound illogical or morbid. Not to mention all the horrible things she says that you wouldn't expect a Christian to say. (like mocking my depression and past addiction to alcohol)
Today, she said to my dad "I know you don't believe in God, but I believe God has helped you in some way by helping you have time away from a job you were thinking of leaving. Though it's not a very pleasant way to get that break."
My dad was looking for a new job because he wasn't enjoying it anymore but he got very sick, his big toe was amputated and now he, though better, can not work, drive, wear a shoe or walk for long periods of time for probably over 6 months. Depending. So he is now staying at home with very little to do with the outside world because he can't walk much, while losing his job. His position will have to be filled soon. So he won't be able to make any more money.
Truth is, my dad wasn't looking after his diabetes, and he never took himself to the doctor when he saw he had an infected ingrown toenail. For HIS mistakes, he nearly died. To connect this all to God is morbid to me! How does she expect me to follow a religion when so far all I hear is how morbid God apparently is. How can one ( I'm talking about her right now ) accept a God that does this bull $hit??
No I'm not saying God does it! I'm saying IF God is real and people believe he works that way....how can one follow it?
Sorry, I'm honestly not having a go at anyone here who is religious or talking about religious people in general. I'm sick of these morbid comments coming out of my Aunty's mouth! She has her own religious spin on EVERYTHING and a lot of the time she contradicts herself but it's always things that are so messed up.
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@Daljinder (23193)
• Bangalore, India
5 May 19
I know the story. On the same note, you may or may not know that we are going through General election right now. It will last for 2 months. More than half is over.
So, one of the candidates (who is terror accused under trail. Her candidature is a controversy in itself) said that she "cursed" the Anti-Terror Squad head, Late Hemant Karkare (the same person who was killed in 26/11/2008 Mumbai terror attack on duty by terrorists) because he arrested her regarding another terror attack. She wears saffron clothe which is a sign of sainthood in Hinduism. She prefixes her name with 'sadhvi' (a Hindi word for female ascetic).
Another example and another saffron wearing so-called ascetic says if you don't vote for me, I will curse you.
Ya think God gave us such exemplary candidates to vote for to teach us a lesson? Trust me, I have learned many many lessons.
P. S. Both of these extraordinary saintly worshippers of God are our current Prime Minister's choice of candidates from his political party. The true and one and only nationalist and patriotic Indian that he is! 
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
5 May 19
@Daljinder wow so kinda like blackmail then. Sad thing is, that crap actually works on people.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
10 May 19
@Daljinder I wish I had something to say to help your mind and heart feel more at ease. 
This is definitely a wait and see situation.
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@Daljinder (23193)
• Bangalore, India
10 May 19
@VivaLaDani13 I am putting my hopes in the soul of my country which is inherently secular, inclusive and non-violent. Our ancestors have given blood, sweat, and tears to get Independence and Democracy. Our independence struggle makes a great part of our identity as Indians. So, I am hoping that people of my country will remember the values that our founding fathers, freedom fighters and all the martyrs stood for and throw out this autocratic megalomaniac who doesn't respect the constitutional values.
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@amitkokiladitya (171988)
• Agra, India
1 May 19
I very well understand your point. I respect the way you think and believe. but some people are just like that. They just say anything anytime and anywhere. They live in their own world and don't realize what the truth is.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
5 May 19
@amitkokiladitya Thank you for reading and understanding where I am coming from. And I 100% agree with what you said. Some people really are like that!
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
9 May 19
@amitkokiladitya I understand what you mean. Sometimes people can get so much on our nerves that we can't hold our words in.
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@amitkokiladitya (171988)
• Agra, India
6 May 19
@VivaLaDani13 I have such a person on my house. I have to deal with her every now and then. I try to control myself a lot but at times I can't just control myself.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
1 May 19
Sounds like the problem is with your Aunt and not the "religion." There is something to some of what she has said, but knowing when and how to say a thing makes a difference.
I can tell you that God is real and there are times when He allows things to happen that look pretty bad to us, but those things can stop worse things from happening.
Once, when my daughter was around 16 or 17, she had a boyfriend who was subtly abusive. She and a friend wanted to move into an apartment but couldn't afford it, so they decided he (the boyfriend) should move in with them. There was nothing I could say to change their minds, so I prayed about it.
My daughter and another friend were going somewhere on the interstate when a car suddenly stopped in front of them and my daughter hit the ditch to keep from running into it. It so happened that the vehicle rolled over (twice, if I remember right) and ceme to stop very close to a stream. Neither of the girls were hurt at all, but the vehicle was totalled.
Where am I going with this? Well, she didn't have the money to move out and get another vehicle, since the insurance wouldn't pay enough.
Did God do that? I don't know. Did He allow it? Definitely.
There is much we don't know.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
5 May 19
@peavey Thank you very much for your answer. It honestly is more about my Aunty because she can say some pretty horrible things and irritates me that she thinks she's accepted into heaven when she can be quite nasty. I don't understand how she, or anyone for that matter can think so damn highly of themselves when in reality they are cruel at times. I have no issue of anyone loving themselves. I recommend that. But some people make me cringe when they make others feel awful because of how they think they are better than everyone else. Hope that makes sense.
Thank you for your example. I am sorry that all happened but glad they were alright!! See, this is where people lose me. Nothing you said! I mean other people who say something terrible happened because "God let it" or even worse "God is responsible." It doesn't sit well with me.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
6 May 19
@VivaLaDani13 I understand how you can feel that way. The reality is that we don't understand God at all. We think we do, but we don't. He doesn't stop every bad thing from happening and He doesn't cause every good thing to happen, but sometimes, He interferes for HIs own purposes.
Your Aunt isn't the only one blaming God for what He didn't do! She probably doesn't mean to be cruel about it, maybe she's just exprssing what she truly believes is the way God works. Whether she's accepted into Heaven isn't our decision, thank heavens! 
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
9 May 19
@peavey I'm really not sure why or what she thinks but it changes all the time. She can be cruel in general sometimes so I don't know. I'm slowly giving up on who she is or working out why she can be a bit cruel here and there.
lol and yeah exactly. It's not up to us. What we might think is kind, God might see differently. So we really don't know and shouldn't come to our own conclusions or telling others where they are going either.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36847)
• Pamplona, Spain
5 May 19
I don´t believe that kind of thing either.
I have heard this kind of thing before and I cannot believe it as we all have free will and the choice to do what we do.
You are right for not taking in what she says very right indeed.
If she was my Aunty I would ignore what she says although it would be very hard to hear those kind of comments about your loved ones.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36847)
• Pamplona, Spain
5 May 19
@VivaLaDani13
I miscarried two lots of twins and the last thing I would have wanted to hear would be something like that you know.
I did hear someone say its what God wanted and I thought how the heck do you know what he wanted?
I can well understand it I really can and I could have never have told my Mom that kind of thing she passed peacefully because I kept a so called Nurse away from her that was hell bent on telling her how sick she was and was going to die.
How well do I know that kind of situation.
Another Nurse helped me out with the situatcion and she never got to know what was wrong with her and so at least she did have some protection from such a woman.
I told her straight to her face no way are you going to tell her that for as long as I am here and she said how dare I?
Well I dared it sorry for the rant.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
5 May 19
@lovinangelsinstead21 Thank you for reading and understanding what I am saying. You pretty much hit the nail on the head. I am finding it just a bit hard to ignore what she says. I'm trying to learn to do that though. Hopefully one day I can get to a point in my life where her words will not frustrate or upset me.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
9 May 19
@lovinangelsinstead21 No worries at all for the rant! I welcome those as I know it's better to vent rather than keep it all in.
I'm very sorry to know you miscarried. I can't say I know the feeling but I do know how awful it can be. And sorry about your mum. And I understand where you are coming from. I hear often about what God wants and it makes me think the same thing. Like how could anyone know? You can't.
I get annoyed when people say "God did this, God did that, God wants this." Like.....are you having weekly phone calls with him or something? Shhhhh it's annoying. 
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@LadyDuck (502812)
• Italy
5 May 19
@VivaLaDani13 There are several like your Aunt, the run to the Church so the others see how good Christians they are, but they are evil.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
5 May 19
@LadyDuck I was wondering what you'd say to this and once again you made me laugh. Only because I have used those ways when venting about her to my dad. Some of the things she says makes me wonder if she is a spawn of Satan instead lol
But no all jokes aside, I completely agree with you. I honestly can not take her "Christianity" seriously when she shows an evil side.
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@Michellekidwell (29953)
• Sonora, California
1 May 19
Thank you for not lumping all Christians together! I personally do not believe we have the right to tell anyone that there loved ones are in Hell, because how do we know? And I don’t think that it’s our place to tell someone sick that there suffering is to help them. Some people draw closer to God in times like this, but that’s between them and God.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
5 May 19
@Michellekidwell No worries. Thank you for reading and understanding where I am coming from. I agree with you. Not that I would do it, but I'm sure she wouldn't appreciate it if I said something awful like that to her. I was under the impression that it was a loving thing to draw closer to God but majority of the time some people make is sound awful
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
9 May 19
@Michellekidwell Thank you Michelle. I'm glad you view it as a beautiful thing. It can sound like a beautiful thing depending on who you talk to. And in my Aunty's case she makes it sound terrible.
@Michellekidwell (29953)
• Sonora, California
5 May 19
@VivaLaDani13 For me it’s not awful and it should never be, it’s a beautiful thing! Again I’m sorry about the way your Aunt acts!
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@pumpkinjam (8876)
• United Kingdom
1 May 19
I completely understand where you're coming from. Your aunt just sounds like a horrible person. While I do believe that things might happen for a reason (or that we can look for the positives where there seem to be none), I don't think it's very nice of your aunt to say the things she says. Sadly, there are a lot of people like her.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
5 May 19
@pumpkinjam Thank you for understanding. I agree with you. I have no problem when people try to find a positive for something negative going on in their lives or other people's lives but my Aunty could definitely say these types of things much better than she is.
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@1hopefulman (45111)
• Canada
1 May 19
What God does and doesn't do is not always easy to understand but I am convinced that in the end all will work out well for those that love him.
Romans 11:33-36 (Easy-to-Read Version) 33 Yes, God’s riches are very great! His wisdom and knowledge have no end! No one can explain what God decides. No one can understand his ways. 34 As the Scriptures say, “Who can know what is on the Lord’s mind? Who is able to give him advice?” 35 “Who has ever given God anything? God owes nothing to anyone.” 36 Yes, God made all things. And everything continues through him and for him. To God be the glory forever! Amen.
Romans 8:28 (ERV) 28 We know that in everything God works for the good of those who love him. These are the people God chose, because that was his plan.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
5 May 19
@1hopefulman Thank you for your answer. I'm still a bit lost on something though. I am speaking for myself right now but is that saying, I am doomed and not accepted by God just because I don't love him? But keeping in mind, I'm not convinced he is even real. If God knows me, then he will know that I am just confused and lost. I don't find it fair that just because I am lost in what life is, or if God is real, that I will not be accepted to see my loved ones anymore or my soul will belong to Satan or whatever stories has been thrown at me.
And what babies who die at birth? They don't even know about God yet so how can they love him? Are they also accepted into Heaven?
And also, sorry I am just lost here, what about criminals that love God? But what about nice people who don't believe? Why is heaven only open for those who love God instead of being open for those who actually mean well while they are alive?
I just don't understand is all.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
5 May 19
@1hopefulman Thank you Felix. Honestly appreciate you taking the time to read my concerns and answering me.
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@bird123 (10658)
• United States
3 May 19
Life is like a tapestry. Lives are woven together for the learning benefit of all. Adversity and Drama so often are the focal point since they demand action which leads to resolution.
You are a part of all this whether you realize this or not.
No one can guaranty the actions of another. On the other hand, one can choose their own actions. Love your aunt unconditionally. Unconditional Love always does what is best for the other and not just give them what they want.
Religious people tend to feel and follow. Clearly, you are leading with thinking which is the way it is supposed to be. Smother your aunt with love and kindness, softly leading her to thinking. You can at least lead her in the right direction. Even if you do not change her yourself, you might set it up for another to bring light into her eyes.
I have found no religion that really understands God. The petty things mankind holds so dear is incorporated into all religions. This is not God!!!
One thing I can say for certain. Hell does not exist so never ever worry about going there. Never let that threat keep you from thinking or being who you are. As I see it, you are exactly where you need to be.
Since our choices return to teach us what our choices mean, try to avoid the petty things like hate, anger, blame, and condemning. Smile, Give them Love and Kindness and point them in the right direction. Your goodness, one day, will return to you as well.
You are Special in ways you can not imagine. You serve God well.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
5 May 19
@bird123 Thank you so very much for your answer! I honestly don't know what happens when we pass but I always feel better hearing / reading nice and encouraging responses like yours in regards to this subject. It does get frustrating trying to be the best me I can be yet have certain people tell me it's not good enough. It makes me feel uneasy not only for them to make me think something powerful isn't pleased with me but makes me think the person telling me this thinks I'm below them.
Honestly, HONESTLY appreciate your answer. Thank you.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
5 May 19
@amadeo No worries at all Alfredo! I appreciate you reading and answering.
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@Julie555 (4156)
• Russian Federation
9 May 19
I am Christian myself but I cannot stand those who send those who don't believe in God to hell., like your aunt did. I mean who gave her this right to decide. This fanatical way of preaching just scares people away. True God is not a judge, true God is a pure love and humility. At least the God I believe. And yes it is up to you believe or not to believe. No one can force anyone into that.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
10 May 19
@Julie555 Thank you very much for your answer and opinion about this. I am sick of people of faith telling me this and it happens a lot. This whole religion changes from person to person. Just for me personally it's a red flag. I find it hard to believe in something if the story keeps changing or it sounds awful. But I still keep an open mind to the whole thing or theories of why we are all here in general.
And thank you so much! I really appreciate you saying that. 
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@Julie555 (4156)
• Russian Federation
11 May 19
@VivaLaDani13 you are most welcome
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@Sojourn (13833)
• India
1 May 19
I am not a Christian,but as a religion I like Christianity and especially Jesus Christ.Sorry to say, but your aunt is the only real devil here and know nothing about God.I think it would be good if you and your dad can can keep a safe distance from this 'hell'ish woman.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
5 May 19
@Sojourn lol I loved your answer. Not saying I am thinking ill of her, but some of her actions and words is more of a devilish way than a "Christian" way. Thank you for your answer! Appreciate it.
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@LowRiderX (22901)
• Serbia
9 May 19
Such people are disgusting to me. I get the desire to slap them, from an angle of 360 degrees...I do not know if it's Christian, but at the moment I do not care much
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
9 May 19
@LowRiderX LOL! Yeah there are some people I wish to slap some sense into.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60812)
• Perth, Australia
10 May 19
@LowRiderX I'm the same as you. I am not judgemental and try to understand people as much as possible even if I don't agree with them. But I do have a limit for certain people.
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