"Affordable Healthcare"

United States
October 15, 2019 2:36pm CST
I dunno, perhaps I'm jest a whiner, but I see nothin' 'ffordable 'bout this. Such'll 'lso not cover my specialists o'er'n Lubbock. Nope, New Mexico 'tis self-run regardin' health insurance, meanin' they've now dictated completely that we aint 'llowed to leave the state. I think all politicians ought'a 've to get one 'f their own plans 'n see jest how 'ffordable 'n lack 'f options there'd be. If'n ya noticed, the premiums'n these 2 plans 're with a $511 tax-subsidized pitch'n. Ridiculous. If'n I signed'p fer either plan, I'd be forced to drive o'er 560 miles round trip to get care. Versus the 150 to Lubbock'n back. Do ya've 'ffordable healthcare where yer 't? Here'n the U.S. 'r otherwise?
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@marguicha (215405)
• Chile
15 Oct 19
I pay for my healthcare in my country because I chose a better health plan. But there is health care even free for unemployed people
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@marguicha (215405)
• Chile
16 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx I once read about what you called Obamacare. I thought it was quite good, but it seems it was not accepted.
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• United States
16 Oct 19
@marguicha the initial concept seemed feasible'n fair. then congress 'n the senate made 't somethin' purty ugly 'fore they'd pass't. the original promise made by our president 'twas that we could keep our insurance (nope, the insurance i'd 't the time cancelled their policies) 'n keep our doc's.
• United States
16 Oct 19
i'm glad ya've that choice, hon. not certain how many countries offer private health insurance?? they've the same here - called medicaid (some other names, too) fer the poor. 'tis 's lil fish that're gettin' screwed 't seems.
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@Nevena83 (65282)
• Serbia
15 Oct 19
We have free health care here, but whenever a serious problem occurs, we have to pay for everything.
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• United States
16 Oct 19
do y'ave access to 'ffordable health 'nsurance fer those serious troubles?
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• United States
17 Oct 19
@Nevena83 how sad, but glad they've that option.
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@Nevena83 (65282)
• Serbia
16 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx No, for more serious problems, our people often seek help in other countries.
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@egdcltd (12060)
15 Oct 19
I'm in the UK so I have the NHS.
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• United States
16 Oct 19
do y'ave options to purchase a private plan? i know i'd a friend'n the u.k. who't times needed quicker treatment'n he could get 'nless he paid fer such out'ta his pocket.
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@egdcltd (12060)
16 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx Yes, you can get private as well. Earlier this year I went private for a nerve root block because it was faster. Privately, you can pay for an individual treatment or take out health insurance.
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• United States
17 Oct 19
@egdcltd 'tis wonderful that'cher givin' those options, hon. i'm tryin' to figure a polite way to air my grievances with our state'n their insurance coverage. thus far, bein' polite's not been effective...
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@wolfgirl569 (95134)
• Marion, Ohio
15 Oct 19
Mine is a lot better than that and I am able to go to other doctors.
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• United States
16 Oct 19
the 'nly positive i can say 'bout this's there'll finally be no penalty fer not havin' the crap fer 2020.
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@thelme55 (76476)
• Germany
15 Oct 19
Yes, we have an affordable healthcare in Germany. We are all healthcare insured even the jobless.
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• United States
16 Oct 19
so glad to hear, hon. they've a medicaid program here'n the u.s. that does the same. some'f 's folks 're stuck'n the middle, we cannot 'fford to continue payin' 1/4 to 1/2 the hubs 'ncome jest fer insurance premiums.
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@CarolDM (203454)
• Nashville, Tennessee
15 Oct 19
Oh wow this is too bad. I am so sorry. Mine is ok in TN. I wish it was the same for you.
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• United States
16 Oct 19
i jest dunno how the government feels 'tis 'ffordable when the premiums 'lone equal more'n 1/4 yer annual income?? does tennessee manage their own system? i'm tryin' to figure if'n the states that do 're jest that corrupt?
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• United States
16 Oct 19
@CarolDM seems such varies by state'n e'en by county here 't least. i'd love to've a sit down with all the folks responsible though...
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@CarolDM (203454)
• Nashville, Tennessee
16 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx it all goes back to Medicare and the government everywhere but the premiums and deductibles are affordable here. Not sure why such a difference.
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@rebelann (111164)
• El Paso, Texas
16 Oct 19
It's the same here, I can see a doc in NM but I'd have to pay a co pay which can run kinda high. I think all insurances are like that, they only cover within the state you reside.
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@rebelann (111164)
• El Paso, Texas
16 Oct 19
How far would it be to go to Albuquerque @crazyhorseladycx ? I'm pretty sure they have some good doctors out that way.
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• United States
16 Oct 19
@rebelann 560 miles round trip....
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• United States
16 Oct 19
this plan'd offer -0- coverage if'n i went out'ta state. few doc's'n my area e'en take these plans offered. those that do, i'd not take a stray pup to. they nearly killed my sweet momma, myself 'n did kill my mamaw....
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@GreatMartin (23677)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
15 Oct 19
I have 0 complaints about Florida health care--I have Aetna and because of my low income I'm okay!
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• United States
16 Oct 19
so glad y'ave not that worry, hon.
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@1creekgirl (40515)
• United States
15 Oct 19
That's terrible! We have Medicare, but pay for a supplement which isn't cheap. But I'm thankful for it.
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• United States
16 Oct 19
no ma'am, the supplements're not cheap, but 't least ya aint faced with large deductibles 'n out 'f pocket 'xpenses. i'm fixin' to lose the coverage through the hubs work coz he's now'n medicare. 'tis cheaper to get a supplement fer him than what he's now. e'en payin' the medicare part b, supplement 'n part d 'tis cheaper - with no surprises 'r dictatorship's to who he can see'n where.
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@just4him (306110)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
15 Oct 19
That is a high premium for your healthcare. I'm on government aid and Medicare so I don't need to worry about it for now.
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• United States
16 Oct 19
yer most fortunate, ms. valerie. we'll save some funds gettin' the hubs'n a medicare supplement, e'en payin' fer the part b, that'n a part d plan. i'm jest spittin' mad. the very doc's here'n my town that 'ccept any 'f the insurances offered fer next year're the same who nearly killed me, my momma 'n did kill my mamaw. i'd not take a stray pup to 'em.
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• United States
16 Oct 19
@just4him medicare 'tis purty much universal 'cross the u.s. i believe. 'tis those'f 's who've not yet reached that milestone who're treadin' deep waters. i might jest need to move to texas where i can get plan that covers my needs...
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@just4him (306110)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
16 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx I'm sorry they're so bad. When I was an insurance agent for a few short months, I learned Wisconsin has one of the best Medicare plans in the country. One thing about Medicare is that whatever state you are living in when you get it, it will follow you no matter where you move. So, should I ever move to New Mexico, I would still benefit from Wisconsin Medicare benefits.
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@JudyEv (325759)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Oct 19
Our system is much different to yours and seems to be much easier to access. The situation there sounds pretty horrendous.
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• United States
16 Oct 19
i jest knew i should'a moved to australia years 'go 'n begged fer citizenship! i don't mind payin' a fair 'mount fer coverage, but bein' forced to drive near triple the distance to get care?? infuriates me that blue cross/blue shield (these'd be their quotes) made a whoppin' $41.7 billionin profits durin' 2018.
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• United States
16 Oct 19
@JudyEv this'un 'twas paid $19 million, plus all 'f the 'perks' back'n 2018. i'm sure such's 'ncreased substantially. i 'gree with ya, but the states 'llow this. givin' 'em their premium increases annually per their request. not lookin' 't all 'f the facts. out'ta all the premiums paid'n 2018, 'nly 64% 'twas used to pay claims. yer correct, obscene. dunno how one'd go 'bout fixin' that though :(
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@JudyEv (325759)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx There is a lot of hoohaa here at the moment about the salaries that some of the CEOs of these big organisations are receiving. Our 10 highest-paid CEOs made over $150 MILLION between themm in the 2018 financial year. The CEO of Qantas made 23 million. It's obscene.
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@acelawrites (19273)
• Philippines
15 Oct 19
Health plans are very costly now; we are also costly now. I hope you can have a wise choice.
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@nela13 (55698)
• Portugal
18 Oct 19
We have a national health system where we pay low taxes and it is for everyone. I also have healthcare insurance in my job. That one is not affordable at all.
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• United States
21 Oct 19
@nela13 we've a bad joke 's a healthcare system. free 'round these parts means yer purty much destitute 'n the doc's 're not ones i'd take a pup to.
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@nela13 (55698)
• Portugal
21 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx The best doctors are in the public health care in our case.
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@nela13 (55698)
• Portugal
20 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx don't you have a national health system? Here it is free for those with low salaries.
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@hillhjill (23664)
• United States
15 Oct 19
That's crazy and no but I'm helping my mother in law with her and we went to the department of ageing to get her started in something she can afford.
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• United States
16 Oct 19
i'm glad yer helpin' her, hon. 'tis a minefield. each state's 'ts own rules 't seems, those that got granted the rights to o'ersee such anyhow - new mexico bein' one. i dunno how such came to be?
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@hillhjill (23664)
• United States
18 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx well that's the government for ya and it's just evil.
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@kareng (54665)
• United States
24 Oct 19
You should apply to Medicaid. The least they can do is turn you down. It's worth a try. Yep, there was so much in the Obamacare that wasn't brought out in the open and then sprung on everyone that it was a big surprise and failure. You just have to remember nothing is free or guaranteed. I kept my insurance from work. It's not cheap but at least it is pretty good. We both had hospital bills after our strokes but they were not over $10,000. Healthcare here in US sucks.
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@kareng (54665)
• United States
24 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx My husband's bill was around $5000. He stayed in hospital 4 or 5 nights. This was after insurance paid. Mine was under $2000 and I only stayed one night less than he did.
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• United States
25 Oct 19
@kareng mercy, 'tis highway robbery. one cannot 'fford to get ill 'r injured here'n the u.s.
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• United States
24 Oct 19
i'd rather die than 'pply fer medicaid. i've no desire fer free, jest reasonable'n the ability to use my doc's. heck, i went through 37 'f 'em 'fore i found the ones i've got! the rest bein' quacks, 'nly interested'n writin' rx's, not payin' mind to underlyin' issues. that's all such cost y'all there?? ya'd 've been lucky if'n yer bill 'twas that cheap fer jest one day't the hospital here. 'tis shameful our system 'tis so filled with corruption 'n greed.
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@much2say (53959)
• Los Angeles, California
20 Oct 19
I cannot complain about ours through Hubby's work, but I cringe about the overall healthcare system here period. "Affordable" is relative, then it's about what is covered (or not), in any case it seems it's all about the money rather than truly helping someone to get the care they need. There are too many "options", many of them being too expensive for a lot of people - and they are left being in stressful predicaments regarding their health. I wish there was a good, solid national healthcare system in place here as they do in other countries, but people are so divided to the point of no return about it. The good have it good, but so many others suffer .
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@much2say (53959)
• Los Angeles, California
21 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx We are fortunate for now, but then comes the question of what happens if something happens to the company, or if he leaves and finds another company . . . the future is always uncertain. We had a discussion with our neighbors not too long ago - we had no idea they were without health insurance for some time because of their circumstances - they were were hopin' and prayin' and sweatin' that nothing would happen during that time. Insurance/medical groups that used to be considered cheaper are no longer exactly "cheap", COBRA is super expensive as is private insurance, but apparently insurances that are supposed to be top notch don't cover everything as they used to. Folks have to stress about $ on top of the health issues they have . Insurance companies have definitely taken advantage have even pulled the rug from underneath folks.
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• United States
20 Oct 19
yer most fortunate to've good coverage through yer hubs, hon. we're payin' fer coverage through the hubs (nearly $800/month - more'n half his income) 'n cannot 'fford to use 't with $6,350. deductibles each. half the country seems to wish fer 'freebies' whilst the rest 'f 's jest wish 'em to knock 't off. when insurance went mandatory, the insurance companies'n states took full 'dvantage. where's they should'a got the crap knocked out'ta 'em.
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• United States
21 Oct 19
@much2say 'tis sure disheartenin' to be'n such a position. particularly when one's young'uns 'r a chronic illness. the insurance companies 've taken advantage 'f the government who 'twas too ignorant to look't the facts 'n 'llowed 'em to go hog wild with their premiums 'n lack 'f beneficial coverage. pharmaceutical companies've 'lso gained great wealth from such. if'n all government officials, their branches 'n staff were subjected to the same's the general public, they'd be horrified - yet perhaps'd force change fer the betterment 'f all. doesn't really matter if'n y'ave got coverage if'n ya can't 'fford to use 't 'r their co-pays're too high, eh? i truly dunno how those folks sleep't night.
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@stringer321 (5643)
• Kiryat Ata, Israel
21 Oct 19
I see an average of about 10000$ per year, that is 800$ per month. I pay about 67.73 dollars per month for insurance that recover accidents and illnesses. It gives me 1500 ILS per day when in hospital, it hasa lot of money to help me with medicine that are not covered by the country... What is this insurance all about?
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• Kiryat Ata, Israel
22 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx I understand you, it is not fair to pay that much. I mean, you can stay without the insurance and save the money for an accident...if you have a healthy lifestyle, and are careful...you better gather many friends and ask them why is it so expensive?
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• United States
22 Oct 19
@stringer321 with the soarin' cost 'f healthcare here'n the u.s., e'en a broken leg can run o'er $10,000. i dunno the answer. i've severe crohn's 'n 've not been able to 'fford e'en check-ups since 2013. i know somethin' 'tis amiss, but can do nothin' 'bout 't. most've my friends 've medicare 'n a supplement. costs 'em 'bout $350/month fer both 'n they've no out 'f pocket 'n can see whome'er they wish'n any state.
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• United States
21 Oct 19
$9600 per year currently, plus a $6,350.00 deductible. 'tis broke's thus far. seems regardless 'f which way we go, we're still gonna be out that much'n premiums, but if'n the hubs gets a medicare supplement, we'll not both've such huge deductibles. 'tis utterly ridiculous. i feel that if'n our elected officials 'd to pay fer coverage'n the 'open market', they'd be workin' harder to correct this. ya know, since they stuck their fingers'n the pie, per se, stirred the pot 'n caused costs to escalate e'en more. yer fortunate fer 'ffordable coverage, hon.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
18 Oct 19
Hopefully, you will be on medicare soon. I have United Heathcare Medicare Advantage and it cost $26 a month and included some dental and vision coverage. Of course not every plan is in every state. When my hubs retired and went on medicare and I was too young it cost me $900 a month for cobra!! It works in most states and counties since I now use my medicare advantage in Florida too.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
20 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx we have quite a few options here in Connecticut. I would not have chosen one that didn't cover both states. According to this there are 5 medicare advantage plans for Curry County NM
https://hellomedicare-ipc.destinationrx.com/PlanCompare/2020/consumer/type3/Compare/ComparePlans
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
21 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx From your mouth to God's Ear!! I am assuming that is because his doctors choose not to participate in Medicare, many don't the payments are too low!!
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• United States
21 Oct 19
@BelleStarr thanks, hon. yep, they've 5 plans 'f which none cover the hubs docs. sigh...'f course, hopefully soon that'll not be my problem.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
24 Oct 19
Oh Crazy, what a terrible state of affairs for you. I feel for you. We're so lucky here with our National Health Service.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
24 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx That's terrible, Crazy, just terrible.
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• United States
25 Oct 19
@jaboUK yes ma'am, but folks keep fallin' fer the garbage bein' passed out by politicians'n others who're actually benefittin' quite greatly from this 'act'.
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• United States
24 Oct 19
not jest fer me, hon. there'd be thousands 'pon thousands who're'n this same boat. i'd thought 'f jest goin' no coverage't all 'n then'd a crohn's flare this past weekend. will get whate'er cheap, crappy coverage i can get'n cross my fingers. 'll not be able to use my doc's, there'd be no gastro specialists local. i hear tell there's one'n roswell, so 'bout the same mileage. trouble bein', 'ccordin' to his office, they've no 'ppointments fer a good 6 months. sigh... yes ma'am, most fortunate fer certain.
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@DocAndersen (54413)
• United States
20 Oct 19
we don't in Maryland, but we are very very close now
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• United States
21 Oct 19
@DocAndersen that'd be the 'nly way 'n mercy if'n there'd not be loads 'f hollerin'. providers, pharma companies 'n insurances've gotten by with so much fer way too many years. can ya jest 'magine the call 'f foul play if'n blue cross 'd not make $41.7 billion'n profits? their stockholders'd sure be screamin' right 'long with their ceo's.
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• United States
21 Oct 19
i'm sure glad folks got all hyped 'bout this crap. whilst such's helped those with lots 'f young'uns 'n minimum waged jobs, the rest 'f 's seem purty screwed. oh, that 'twas what one 'f the gals i spoke with 't the healthcare website told me - jest get pregnant 'n that'll add to yer premium deduction. really??? i'm a grandma....aint got the plumbin' fer 't nyhow. sigh...
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@DocAndersen (54413)
• United States
21 Oct 19
@crazyhorseladycx there are so many moving parts to this I worry about the impact if we don't take the whole system and fix it all
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