Male chauvinism and family..

@marguicha (215431)
Chile
October 17, 2019 10:59am CST
I was reading a post written by Judy ( @JudyEv ) about washing dishes when we were kids and I remembered how my brother NEVER helped with house chores because he was a boy. That led me to realize that in our household (and in many others in my country) male chauvinism was taught from the cradle by our mothers. At that time, although, in many households the man was the main or only provider. And although I could half accept that, I don´t understand why women fought for rights (vote, work, equal pay) but never for equal treatment inside their house. In many households in the US (while visiting) and in my country, I have seen men around the TV (showing some sport) and a beer in their hands while the woman who had just come from work attended the kids and tried to cook supper at the same time. Maybe that is one of the reasons why we see so many shows on TV where families eat on trays with a pizza that was bought by phone. There is no conversation and the main element of the living and dining room area is a huge TV set. If the overweight father (too many pizzas and too much beer) hears a yell from a child when he is watching TV, he uses his paw to quiet him/her until the commercial starts. Mother dear then gives the child a tablet or a console to play while she tries to rest a bit (with a piece of pizza and either a beer or a soda in her hand). The children learn from the cradle their roles. Now the woman has to bring money for the house. But the antique role of cleaning up, child rearing and the like is not shared. Only now she is too tired ti do it well. And children have learned to want things instead of to wanting to be somebody. Am I too old or the world is worse?
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• United States
17 Oct 19
I think that there are some households that share the work but I also believe it is still not equal. You are right, there were chores growing up that the boys would do but they were never asked to share the task of laundry or of dishwashing. They would not even clean the bathroom, and we all know that boys can be much messier in the bathroom.
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@ptrikha_2 (45472)
• India
17 Oct 19
@ScribbledAdNauseum in that case,I can do certain things like occasionally washing dishes, or when in urgency, handling machine washes and drying and hand washing some of my shirts(which get damaged in machine wash).
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
18 Oct 19
I agree. And we should not do the same with our children in the next generation. The abuse of women starts when men are little boys.
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• United States
18 Oct 19
@marguicha Yes, we as women should not allow this to continue. We can teach our little boys to do the dishes, to clean the bathrooms, to sew and to do laundry.
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@rebelann (111180)
• El Paso, Texas
17 Oct 19
If only it were less like that. I worked with a woman who was the only working partner in her marriage yet she still did the majority of the housework etc, I was surprised she didn't divorce the lazy bum.
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@ptrikha_2 (45472)
• India
17 Oct 19
@rebelann sometimes people keep on being in a marriage either due to kids, or due to matter of heart!
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
17 Oct 19
Sometimes I don´t want to help other women. They don´t help themselves. I always say we have to start with self respect.
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@rebelann (111180)
• El Paso, Texas
17 Oct 19
I agree with you @marguicha women need to want to help themselves before anyone else steps in to try to help them.
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@ptrikha_2 (45472)
• India
17 Oct 19
Such habits are there in India as well. In Urban India, my mother used to do most of the cooking and rarely asked us to help. Even my sister was not asked to do much in the kitchen. Yet I can at least make Tea/Coffee, some basic vegetables, know a bit about rice cooking, can make Chapatis(Indian Bread). I help with putting, taking out and drying washing machine clothes and ironing kids' uniforms, though I have many friends who just sit idle and watch TV at home. And I used to make my children sleep many a times at night when they were less than two years of age. In the process, my health suffered a bit for a few years. A few folks at some relatives' functions even used to kind of make fun of me, and when I used to tell that I have to contribute at home, some of them used to say "Huh, everyone does." whereas I knew some of my cousins who used to get a lot of in-laws or their parents' help in kids upbringing. Well it is perhaps an unfair world, and yes women do suffer in many cases.
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@ptrikha_2 (45472)
• India
17 Oct 19
@marguicha At times, the Mothers have an important role to play. Some are so much obsessed with their sons, that when their daughter-in-law comes, and son is helping her with household works, Mother resents and even tries to create differences between son and daughter-in-law. I have even heard about some marriages falling apart due to this.
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
17 Oct 19
Basically I think that we have to learn to respect ourselves.
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@andriaperry (116860)
• Anniston, Alabama
17 Oct 19
Its worst. That is why when I get another man he will be my equal, cook and clean plus work as I do.
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
17 Oct 19
Or, if he can´t cook, he must do other similar work.
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@db20747 (43427)
• Washington, District Of Columbia
17 Oct 19
This is true!! We need some good ole fashioned family game nite, or activities!! Growing up wanted to play ball and hang out with friends!! Everybody was busy busy working and everything moved fast!! I take my time!! I stopped rushing a long time ago!!!
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
17 Oct 19
We need our time too.
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@LindaOHio (156157)
• United States
17 Oct 19
No, the world is much worse. Inequality in the workplace has made strides but not on the homefront. Have a great day!
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
17 Oct 19
But we women have to put an end to that.
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
17 Oct 19
@LindaOHio Men or law will not do it alone.
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@LindaOHio (156157)
• United States
17 Oct 19
@marguicha You're right.
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@shaggin (71666)
• United States
17 Oct 19
I had a conversation with my mother about this. She was complaining that my niece who is 15 never helps do he dishes. My niece said her 17 year old brother doesn’t do them either and my mother doesn’t think my nephew should have to because he’s a boy. In my opinion boys and girls need to equally help with the dishes! They should not expect their wives to be their slaves some day.
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
17 Oct 19
They both have hands, as I say.
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@shaggin (71666)
• United States
17 Oct 19
@marguicha absolutely!
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
18 Oct 19
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• Pamplona, Spain
18 Oct 19
No, not too old Margi and my brothers always got away with everything and I was always having to do their dirty work. The day I stayed School Dinners I got a bit of my freedom back as I was not having to go and rush back home and cook their meals for them yipee I wanted to shout it from the roof tops that day. My brothers were Mommy´s boys sad to say I suppose its not all their fault really.
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
18 Oct 19
It is a shame. With that upbringing it is normal that they feel they are better than us women.
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• Pamplona, Spain
18 Oct 19
@marguicha its the way things were then. Us girls were ignored most of the time.
@just4him (306239)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
17 Oct 19
That sums it up well. My brother never did house chores. I don't know about my younger brother as he was 8 when I left home, but my guess is he didn't then either. You're not too old. The world is worse.
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
18 Oct 19
It seems it is. And we are making it worse. I was lucky to be respected all my life, but it is not usual.
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@just4him (306239)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
18 Oct 19
@marguicha I'm glad you received the respect you deserved.
@JudyEv (325793)
• Rockingham, Australia
18 Oct 19
It's worst although I have to admit a lot of the young fathers I know are very good at helping around the house. A surprising number seem to have taken over the cooking.
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
18 Oct 19
What I don´t like is when men say they "help" with the house. I feel that it cannot be a help but as much a duty as it is for the other part.
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@JudyEv (325793)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 Oct 19
@marguicha Some seem to think they should get a medal for wiping up dishes once a day. I forgot to say thanks for the mention.
@JustBhem (70555)
• Davao, Philippines
17 Oct 19
I think male and female nowadays are learning the same way, my Brothers washes dishes and wash clothes. A friend of mine is a wife and she’s working too.
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
17 Oct 19
I hope it starts being like that everywhere.
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@marguicha (215431)
• Chile
18 Oct 19
@JustBhem In my country this happens in some marriages but not in all
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@JustBhem (70555)
• Davao, Philippines
18 Oct 19
@marguicha I see.