Another "bad teaching" rant? Could subtle racism be involved?

@TheHorse (238388)
Walnut Creek, California
December 12, 2019 8:00pm CST
There's a kid I work with who has a special affection for me. He's 2 1/2, and has this affection because I listen closely to him, talk to him, and play with him. When he acts out (he's a hitter), I do not get mad at him. I try to get him to express what he's experiencing. And then I try to teach him "sharing." But he's language-delayed. And he may be on the autism spectrum. His expressive language (speaking) is hard to understand, and some of his behaviors are peculiar. For example, he will stand and howl for no particular reason. And he sometimes seems "in his own world." My way of dealing with him has been to play with him, to engage him in conversation, and to make sure he's looking at me (my lips in particular) when I speak with him. With me, his language has improved, and I can sometimes understand up to four-word sentences from him. He also "models" my behavior, and will sometimes hug a child who is crying. Empathy is HUGE on my list of things to teach toddlers. But because he is a hitter, and lives in a big body, other children are sometimes hesitant to accept his affectionate and empathic gestures. What pisses me off is that some of the teachers simply interpret his behavior as "bad," scold him, don't interact with him closely, and are quick to "remove" him from an escalating situation. He winds up crying, hitting teachers, and generally acting frustrated. The racial aspect? Most of the teachers are Latino, and this child is African American. I have encountered fear of black Americans among Latino Americans in the past, and I may be seeing it here. Today, the child came over and hugged me. He and I were playing in the sand. I was asking him questions that forced to try and communicate with me using the spoken work. I understood some of what he was saying. At a certain point, the head teacher demanded that he move away from The Horse, and play with other children. He wound up crying and hitting the teacher. Next, he wound up on "time out" for several minutes. I was ticked off. I had been playing successfully with him (in the sand) and helping him play with other children without "incidents." I'll end it here. Long posts aren't read. Are Early Childhood Education "qualifications" taken seriously where you live? Does racial prejudice sometimes play a role in how children are treated?
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@Torunn (8606)
• Norway
15 Dec 19
It's taken quite seriously, but there's always the problem of getting staff that's educated and haven't chosen the profession because they think they need to make some kind of sacrifice. Or because they think that working in a kindergarden is an easy job. When they start school with 6 the problem can be the same, not enough educated people so they'll have to just get someone to do the job. I'm seriously hoping that racial prejudice doesn't play a role in schools here. I've one kid from Eritirea (kid or youth, 15 years old) trying to pull the "You're only telling me to be quiet because I'm black!". He didn't get far with that, as his best friend, definitly born and bred just around the corner from the school, got told off just as much. And a friend of mine in Germany had a child (I'm guessing 10-11) trying the same the first time she had the class. She just looked at him, she's German but her father's from Senegal. The kid had used that for the first 4 years in school, never used it again. However, I know that some of the kids in my school when I was a kid were told not to play with the two children adopted from Korea. I found it weird then, I find it weird now. And this is getting long. I should stop. Wouldn't want to get accused of writing too long posts, using too many words.
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@Torunn (8606)
• Norway
15 Dec 19
@TheHorse It's always easier with small children that develop as all the other small children. I'm hoping the teacher-student I teach are better with children then with science! 'Cause some of them don't really know much about science. They'll be teaching from the first til the seventh grade (6 - 12 years old) and they'll get all the kids, 'cause they're not split until the 11. grade.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Dec 19
@Torunn I worry when teachers who don't know math and science have to teach math and science.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Dec 19
Hemingway would wag his finger at you! Interesting stories, actually, and worth the words. Kids here pull the "because I'm black" card pretty often. But in this case, the kid is too young to even know about race. I think they (the other teachers) probably treat him too harshly because he is a developmentally delayed kid in a big body.
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@crossbones27 (53005)
• Mojave, California
13 Dec 19
Nice brother, someone actually took the time to explain this. I always say there is people who say they are teachers then there is real teachers. No, early education costs money and they waste it by not taking the time to do it properly, but move them along just to keep that funding coming in. I actually had a speech problem when I was young and the early catch helped me immensely even though it comes back from time to time. People should take this seriously. How to stop future Hitlers is important work
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Dec 19
Can you remember certain people who believed in you and helped you with your language development? I have some "academic" publications out there, but sometimes I'm frustrated that my most important "work" flies under the radar screen. Will anyone read the book I'm writing? Will it help disadvantaged kids in future? I don't know.
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• Mojave, California
14 Dec 19
@TheHorse Actually I do, they made it fun also, I can see her face anyway. I was real young so do not remember her name. She joked around a lot because she knew it was frustrating for me. My mom also put me in one of those big brother programs in Lawrence Kansas. It was something like that but not big brother because was a single lady and she had this German Shepherd. I spent one evening with her to give my mom a break. We had so much funny taking the dog for a walk, he was so fun. I guess where my love for German Shepherds started. See, proper education, not some stat. I will read your book, it sounds interesting, is it out?
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 Dec 19
@crossbones27 Making learning fun is a big part of what I try to do at whatever level. I'm glad you have fond memories of the lady and her German shepherd.
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@wolfgirl569 (136063)
• Marion, Ohio
13 Dec 19
I dont have any little ones in anything right now but have not heard any complaints.
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@wolfgirl569 (136063)
• Marion, Ohio
13 Dec 19
@TheHorse More like friends grandkids and a couple of great grands. But yea close
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 Dec 19
@wolfgirl569 Heh. Got it.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Dec 19
I'm glad your friends' friends' kids (did I get that right?) are receiving good care.
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@andriaperry (118793)
• Anniston, Alabama
13 Dec 19
No I don`t think race is a problem here.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Dec 19
Do you think they're just poorly trained, and not sensitive to the needs of a kid with developmental delays?
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 Dec 19
@andriaperry If preschool teachers are to be paid more, they have to be better trained.
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@andriaperry (118793)
• Anniston, Alabama
13 Dec 19
@TheHorse Yes, they treat all of them the same.
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@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
13 Dec 19
I have nothing to compare your question to, no little ones here. But I would think this problem is all over. Too bad the teacher cold not see the good you were doing for this child.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 Dec 19
I spent some more special time with that kid today.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 Dec 19
@CarolDM I hope I hear some clear full sentences while I'm still working with this little guy. I gather they're considering shipping him off to a preschool for kids with "special needs."
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@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
14 Dec 19
@TheHorse You are so good for those kids.
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@DocAndersen (54399)
• United States
13 Dec 19
First, i honor you as a teacher. It is a job with lots of joy, and a whole lot of pain. I would love to argue against your thesis but I am afraid based on what you've shared that you are right.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Dec 19
I don't think that race plays a major role here. But many of these teachers seem ill-equipped to deal with a developmentally delayed boy in a large body.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Dec 19
@DocAndersen How was he doing years later?
@DocAndersen (54399)
• United States
15 Dec 19
@TheHorse when I was teaching I had an ED kid. He was literally on his 4th teacher that year. He read at a passable 1st level and was in 3rd grade. But by November he is in my classroom. He and I battled his demons often. I always struggled to help him. I know I did a little, I saw him many years later, but I wish always wish I could have done more.
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@BarBaraPrz (51839)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
13 Dec 19
Why aren't YOU the head teacher? You seem to be the only one who knows how to keep things running smoothly.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Dec 19
The lesser teachers do "keep things running smoothly," but they don't seem sensitive to the developmental needs of young kids.
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@yanzalong (19091)
• Indonesia
13 Dec 19
I am afraid it doesn't as far as I am aware.
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@yanzalong (19091)
• Indonesia
13 Dec 19
@TheHorse The racial prejudice does not play a role in how children are treated in my country. We are of more than 30 tribes but are the same in giving treatment.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Dec 19
@yanzalong That is good to hear!
@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Dec 19
Which? Please elaborate.
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@marguicha (230365)
• Chile
15 Dec 19
We did not have a racial problem where I lived when my children were little. But things have changed. There has been a lot of immigration and I don“t know how this is working.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Dec 19
Where are people coming from?
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@marguicha (230365)
• Chile
15 Dec 19
@TheHorse Now mainly Venezuela, Colombia, Haiti and Ecuador.
@LadyDuck (502886)
• Italy
13 Dec 19
I do not think that race is the problem here. You say that he is a big boy who has the habit to "hit", the other teachers only fear that he can hurt the other young children. They are surely trained to treat all the kids the same (no discrimination), so they do not spend more time with this kid just because he has problems.
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@LadyDuck (502886)
• Italy
16 Dec 19
@TheHorse This is what I thing, because I have seen the nuns being rude with girls who had some problems. They were not formed to understand.
@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Dec 19
My hunch is that you're correct. The don't know how to handle a developmentally delayed boy in a big body.
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
13 Dec 19
That's terrible the head teacher did that. I'm glad you take the time with him. If there is, I haven't seen it.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Dec 19
I hope I get to talk to his speech therapist when he finally has one. I think I've noticed improvements (and techniques that work with him) that other teachers have not.
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
16 Dec 19
@TheHorse I hope you do. It would go a long way to help with his education.
@JudyEv (382678)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Dec 19
That is such a shame. If he's playing with you and starting to play with others, why spoil a good situation? Some don't like to see succeeding there they have failed.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Dec 19
I HATE jealousy (but not the jealous person). I am good at what I do. And I try to help EVERY child that I interact with. I got a "fancy" education for a reason.
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@LindaOHio (222896)
• United States
13 Dec 19
Kudos to you for successfully helping this child. I am not familiar with ECE qualifications in my area.
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Dec 19
It's all about "units." But some of the teachers I work with "have their units" but are still teaching like it's dark ages.
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• Northampton, England
13 Dec 19
get those cholo's in order
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@TheHorse (238388)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Dec 19
Ironically, working with kids who are mostly Mexican-American has increased my appreciation for the beauty of Mexican culture. I see a lot of love in the families, and I have never worked with 2-year-olds who are as quick to say "You OK" and help their friends up when they fall. Their nature empathy warms my heart.