Parable: The despondent are hard to shift away from their despondency

Thanks. That gives me an out, then. I have been despondent all of my life too, but I think too, as you say, I have never saw anything that I liked, or was really interested in. The carrot of finally finding something that I like about life, keeps me going, and if it is to be found in God's garden, so much the better, as I have been trying to prove his existence to myself, for all of my life, as well.

@innertalks Why do you think I wrote that,haha, but I am not only one either. Why I like your posts because no one does this stuff other than maybe Sillva sorry if spelt that wrong. Its actually common in people who served in the military because they had a bigger purpose and once that is gone they cannot find anything close in corporate world to get that purpose back. Of course in my case what if military purpose was not for you and corporate world purpose is not for you, see hard to find something I like .

@crossbones27 Yes, I never thought of that. It's a big step down when someone leaves the military. I have never ever stepped up yet to anything, though; I have just been down. I feel out of place here, and uncomfortable in life. I feel that I do not belong here, and that it is a punishment for something. Sort of how they sent the convicts to Australia once from England. Funny that I am living here in Australia too. Perhaps, I had a past life as a convict, lol...or my great-great grandfather might have been one...

What is the mind though? Does the mind include the body, or does the body encompass the mind? Sometimes a disease bites us in the body, and our mind was away on a holiday somewhere, or other. We can try then to drag our mind back again to the matter at hand, and it is true then, that a positive attitude will help the healing process. Perhaps, most diseases do begin in the mind though.... Are there any diseases that do not begin in our minds, or are just in our minds, though? All diseases are caused more by our karma, and our mind then tries to handle them for us, but we can be born with such a health problem, before our mind even came into its own. So, disease comes from many sources, from the environment, from hereditary sources, from a weakness of our self, and from the inability to stave it off with a good strong positive attitude. All of these things depend on our mindset that karma has created for us, and which we can change over time, by the right attitudes, and knowings, being developed in us, through life experiences with love, and God, and interactions with life, God, and others too.

@Shiva49 Yes, good questions, siva. Nothing pushes me, but when I attach myself to something, it sometimes pulls me along with it too. God is a puller, rather than a pusher, and so we only realise that when we push ourselves to connect to God, and then we find ourselves being pulled along in life, by God, and by his force of love.

@innertalks At times, we are left at the starting blocks and, maybe, disqualified due to false starts! We can be labeled a loser from young and that label stays with us no matter however much we try to erase it from our - well - mind. What is it that really pushes us in life - ourselves or a higher force? How much is the role of society we find ourselves in?

Yes, you also left a few jobs, but for reasons of conscience, rather than despondency, but maybe there was some despondency building in you too, as when others do not play fairly with us in our employ, we tend to find then that our footsteps, in that job, going forwards, do seem heavier to make, as we are getting bogged down in quicksand, made by others. And our mind is bearing the extra weight upon itself too, slowing down our heart, to stay any longer under that employ too.

@Shiva49 Yes, as in Chess parlance, there is a beginning/opening stage, a middle game, and then the end game. If we give up fighting at any part of the game, our opponent will pounce in, and trounce us. We need to stay with life for the long haul, not to be hauled away early by our losing our fire for life. We need to stoke our fire, with appropriate additions of coal from time to time too. There was one time when I was taking part in a Chess tournament, one Easter, long ago, and I didn't even make it into the game, at all. I read the timetable wrong, and I turned up late for the game, thinking that it would start at 2 pm, in the afternoon as normal, but they had rescheduled it for a 12,00 pm start, and so I forfeited that game. It still bugs me to this day, as my opponent in that game went on to win the tournament, and also in years to come, he became an International Chess master too. I still wish that I had turned up on time, and had that game with him. We need to turn up to life too, or otherwise, we are beaten before we ever begin, as I was here, in that game.

@innertalks Yes, when the fire in the belly is doused, then our steps forward become labored. I recall at a couple of places, I worked myself out of jobs as the challenges were passed. Maybe the idealistic take that I was part of the show took a beating too as it was more in my mind! We tend to reach a stage too when we have to fight to stay in the game here and some want a quick exit resonating with - did he jump or was he pushed!

Thanks, Scott. Yes, every case is individually different, and has to be treated uniquely for that particular sufferer. It is complex, but sometimes a simple insight, that reaches home, in our hearts, can help to lift us past the darkness of our minds, with its lightness too.

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Yes, some people are too proud to stick it out in a sticky situation, as their sticky attitude soon becomes unstuck, and they want to stick it then somewhere else instead. In short, they are pretty stuck up, wherever they find themselves.

@Nakitakona Yes, a bad attitude is usually attached firmly to an uncaring way of living too, or to laziness, as you said. That is an astute observation.

@innertalks They have unsound attitude which comes out from uncaring tendency or laziness.