Climate Change Will Push World Wide Immigration

United States
August 15, 2021 12:36pm CST
We have to rethink borders and immigration policies. And many will not like what will be coming. But even now, climate change is pushing immigration from hotter zones to cooler ones. By 2070, it is estimated that 19% of people will be living in climates that will prove uninhabitable. That is billions of people. ( It has already begun. As an example: "El Niño — is expected to become more frequent as the planet warms. Many semiarid parts of Guatemala will soon be more like a desert. Rainfall is expected to decrease by 60 percent in some parts of the country, and the amount of water replenishing streams and keeping soil moist will drop by as much as 83 percent. " This will happen in the U.S. as well to some extent. And this will be everyone's problem. I don't know what the solutions are, but being isolationist will not work for anyone in the coming decades.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/23/magazine/climate-migration.html)
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• United States
15 Aug 21
I'd say that soverignty and secure borders will be even more important. A country can support only so many people. If you're on a lifeboat that can carry 16 people and because the ship is sinking, many people are in the water. If you put more than 16 people in your lifeboat, you risk costing everyone's life by saving any more people. If you paddle near them, they will all try to climb aboard and your boat will capsize. You are talking about a New World Order and the end of Nations soverignty. With that, Constitutions and individual rights disappear. So that's a big no from me.
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• United States
15 Aug 21
I don't know if that is feasible--I suspect people will do whatever they need to to be able to survive. We can either anticipate it and work together to help alleviate the problem, or we can be responsible for the deaths of millions.
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• United States
15 Aug 21
@Vikingswest1 I never said any of that--If anything, I suspect we will all have to work together--
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• United States
15 Aug 21
@divalounger If you're hinting that one single governing power will dictate to all countries, you may not be happy with what you get. These gloom and doom predictions have pushed fear since Nuclear Holocaust was going to kill everyone in the 1950's. 60's was Acid Rain. 70's was fossil fuel depletion. 80's was Global Cooling. 90's Global Warming. 2000's Climate Change. 10's had our sea levels rising to cover coastlines. Obama said that rising sea levels would wipe out all coastlines and then purchased a mulitmillion dollar estate on the coast line. Now it's more gloom and doom and you're ready to eliminate borders and Nations soverignty. We SHOULD be better stewards of our planet and her peoples but our world is in constant change. It has been for 4.6 billion years. Science predicted ice ages. That our coasts would already be under water. Funny how the science of Climate Change seems to change every few years. Predicting next week's weather can't be done accurately and with all the past incorrect predictions from science, it appears that these gloom and doom predictions have been no better.
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@CarolDM (203451)
• Nashville, Tennessee
15 Aug 21
I tend to agree with @Vikingswest1.
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• United States
15 Aug 21
I thought you might--see my response to him--none of the solutions are good. But if we do not work together, millions will die--I don't want that weighing on my soul
• United States
15 Aug 21
@CarolDM I know--I suspect it will get worse and then everyone will try to dig into their trenches which will make everything worse--
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@CarolDM (203451)
• Nashville, Tennessee
15 Aug 21
@divalounger Good luck in getting everyone to work together. That is unfortunately part of the problem in many areas.
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@prashu228 (37525)
• India
15 Aug 21
That's sad.. hope the scientists come up with solution...
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• United States
15 Aug 21
Meanwhile, we should all do our part--
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• United States
15 Aug 21
@prashu228 stop using fossil fuels, eat less meat, etc--but yes
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@prashu228 (37525)
• India
15 Aug 21
@divalounger that's true... plant more trees..
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@sabtraversa (13005)
• Italy
15 Aug 21
I hope something against desertification can be done, as it isn't just about climate. Deforestation and intensive farming play an important role as well. Desert usually happens where there are no trees. We need more trees. Cooler countries often import food from the hot ones: if they can't grow anything because of desertification, we might barely be able to feed ourselves, let alone feed the climate migrants.
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• United States
15 Aug 21
I think food may become a real problem everywhere--not just in hot climates, but in unstable ones--if the North Atlantic current slows much more, we will have trouble on the east coast--here in the west, water will become more of a problem and California will no longer be able to provide for the rest of the nation. This is a problem with many moving parts
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@LadyDuck (459122)
• Switzerland
16 Aug 21
We have a serious problem of overpopulation in the world and the resources are no more enough to sustain all the humans. This will become a very serious problem.
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• United States
18 Aug 21
@LadyDuck Bible or no, we need some traction on this issue
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• United States
16 Aug 21
I agree @LadyDuck. And so far, I don't see people beginning to address it.
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@LadyDuck (459122)
• Switzerland
17 Aug 21
@divalounger Until some narrow sighted religious groups will continue to tell people to have children because it's written in the Bible, nothing will change.
@DianneN (247191)
• United States
19 Aug 21
It’s so true. We must all do our part to help.
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• United States
19 Aug 21
I think so too!
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• United States
21 Aug 21
@DianneN counting down days--she is as big as a house and all baby--so I suspect she won't go full term
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@DianneN (247191)
• United States
20 Aug 21
@divalounger Count down until the baby arrives! Hopefully, our world will improve a bit more by then.
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@kaylachan (58204)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
15 Aug 21
So, different from how things are, now? Though people will adapt as well, too. A lot of us have already. Or would if we could stop pointing fingers at each other.
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• United States
15 Aug 21
It is the blame that is so detrimental to everyone I think--but yes, I think it will be worse--
• Baguio, Philippines
5 Sep 21
We are divided into many and different countries , we have own and differences beliefs,cultures and traditions.. but we are binded by one heart stay safe everyone
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@rebelann (111254)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Sep 21
So basically that's the excuse for so many immigrating to the USA? We get a whole lotta illegal immigrants here because it's so easy for them to hop the border over our dried up Rio Grande River.
• United States
3 Sep 21
Don't worry, it will be happening everywhere--don't confuse immigration, migration and illegal immigration. Migration will happen whether we like it or not. We may be the ones needing to migrate
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• United States
3 Sep 21
@rebelann stay safe then--I live in California and every year the fires get worse. We now have 6 months of summer, 3 of them with smoke. It is an untenable situation.
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@rebelann (111254)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Sep 21
I won't be migrating anywhere, I'll just stay here at home and watch them go by.
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@RebeccasFarm (86823)
• United States
19 Aug 21
And not only climate change but food shortages
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• United States
19 Aug 21
We will be seeing food shortages fairly soon I think--hotter temperatures, lack of water, weather disasters--will all act negatively on crops--I am not sure what we will do about that
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• United States
19 Aug 21
@divalounger It is sooner than later going to happen Diva it seems to me
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• United States
15 Aug 21
Climate Change is something we should have taken more seriously years ago. It's definitely something we need to take seriously now. We all have to do our part to decrease waste, to lean more towards renewable energy sources that harm the planet less and less.
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• United States
15 Aug 21
I agree--we are at a tipping point it seems--but we collectively have done little about it in the past 30 years
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• United States
15 Aug 21
@divalounger We've petitioned plenty, we've talked about it, but you're right, no real action.
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• United States
15 Aug 21
@ScribbledAdNauseum It makes me sad
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@just4him (307136)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
18 Aug 21
We need to fix the problem now.
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• United States
19 Aug 21
I agree!
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@thelme55 (76481)
• Germany
20 Aug 21
Until then, we are no longer in this world. People will be having a serious problem in the future.
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• United States
21 Aug 21
I fear you may be correct.
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@LindaOHio (157150)
• United States
16 Aug 21
The world's weather is going haywire with the climate change and many people will have to change their way of thinking and living.
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• United States
16 Aug 21
Yup--
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