Are Hindu students allowed to wear the dot on forehead?
By vanny
@vandana7 (98823)
India
February 11, 2022 12:03am CST
If so, then courts have no right to speak of uniformity exclusively for hijab.
If uniformity has to be implemented that dot on forehead should also disappear.
Are Hindus prepared for that?
What a controversy to break the nation for votes?
Folks that have differences with one person from another community and label the entire community wrong, as if people from own community are saints.
Low IQ.
If Judges are taking time to decide on issues such as this, then they are doing shoddy job - not pulling their weight, or at the best, they fear being attacked by political party honchos.
As a judge, I would ask,
a. Does the hijab prevent the girl from listening the lesson or understanding the lesson?
b. Does the hijab distract other students from focusing on what is being taught in the class?
c. Does the hijab distract teachers and other staff in the school or college like some seductive outfit?
d. Does the hijab release some poisonous stuff in the class room, or stink in the classroom?
e. Was the hijab objectionable before 2014 and did it affect the student's understanding of what is being taught in the class?
f. Is there a prescribed manner in which scarves are to be worn for the sake of uniformity?
g. Are all gears subject to uniformity...such as handbags, shoes, rings, bangles, ribbons, watches, dot on forehead, hair length, etc., etc.
I presume answer to all the above would be NO. Therefore, logically, I would see no objection to hijab.
Now coming to positives...
a. Does the hijab help the girl to escape undesirable attention? YES.
If the news clipping played so oft on the television channels is anything to go by, it was one single girl with hijab and many many boys after her screaming Jai Shri Ram, and the girl replied Allah hu Akbar.
Is that not enough to realize that this is provocation by a religious group, and has nothing to do with education?
Educating a girl will help her contribute positively to the nation. Is that so wrong?
Linking hijab with religion is making the girls and guys conscious of their religion at school or college, instead of letting them focus on education.
There will be resentment against targeting a group. There will be attempts to establish separate colleges only for students of that community.
Then, and then, can you tell what could brew?
Brainless hooligans ruining my country.
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12 responses
@LadyDuck (458006)
• Switzerland
11 Feb 22
I fully agree what @jstory07 wrote. Let people free to do what they want. If girls are not annoyed to have attention, let they go without the hijab. Let those who feel safer wearing it wear it and stop futile rules that bring nowhere, they only divide people.
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
13 Feb 22
@LadyDuck it was the same here in the 50's and some how got turned around by the 70's.
I was such a tomboy that I constantly got into trouble because of going to recess on the play ground. I would run and play so hard, I would end up breaking my belts on dresses or the hem of my skirts. Mom would get so mad at me.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
12 Feb 22
We wear Chunnis../ dupattas differently. How do we bring in uniformity in how we wear that? If there is no uniformity in this, how can we object to hijab?
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@LadyDuck (458006)
• Switzerland
12 Feb 22
@vandana7 You know what? I think that people are quick to argue about everything in our days. When I was young, as girls, we were not allowed to wear pants when we went to school. Did we protest or argue? NO we wore outside, when we arrived to school we put on our school apron and take off our pants. In our days everything becomes a political problem.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
11 Feb 22
I agree. Forcing something down the gullet never has good results. We can, at the best appeal to the logic. However, the way guys were teasing the girl, it was shameful. It kinda made me feel, she is better off with hijab than without. The city has become famous for wrong reasons of late..especially regarding girls.
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@crossbones27 (48417)
• Mojave, California
11 Feb 22
Interesting, I tend to see life different so bare with me. A Hijab may do all those things, but I do not wear one and I am free as a bird.
Even in America's trouble times, not as free of a country as when I was a kid. I do find it a bit sad people need to feel hidden to not attract unwanted attention.
You are going to get that every where you go one way or another. Best just to learn how to deal with it. I may be hidden but a time comes when I stand up for myself and not let these power ridden fools push me around. Until you do that, they will always give you excuse of why you should remain hidden.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
12 Feb 22
Our situation differs from your end. For starters, you are a man, so less likely to be heckled or raped or eve teased/adam teased.
Secondly, our laws are not really good as yet. If a guy rapes and brutally kills the girl, he still gets away with punishment of 33333.33 USD after 10 odd years litigation, and maiming the lawyer for life.
Each case takes ages, and while the laws say only 4 percent of the award be given as fees to the advocates, the advocates fleece 40 percent or even more partly due to the prolonged process, leading to additional expenses, and partly out of greed.
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@crossbones27 (48417)
• Mojave, California
12 Feb 22
@vandana7 I was not trying to judge miss lady but maybe put pressure on your society so they stop that nonsense, but to be fair we have enough trouble here to put our corrupt people away.
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@wolfgirl569 (95136)
• Marion, Ohio
11 Feb 22
I wish people everywhere would just learn to respect others choices. It would be so boring if we were all the same
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
12 Feb 22
@wolfgirl569 Absolutely. I am surprised. People want to pass laws, not convince, not explain. Not take others on board. Not listen to others. Not change their views of a situation if they are wrong. Not do anything against wrongs that can be prevented in future.
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@wolfgirl569 (95136)
• Marion, Ohio
12 Feb 22
@vandana7 Everyone is so entitled anymore. I do think that has got a lot worse the last few years
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
11 Feb 22
I am going to file a few public interest litigations after covid.
Modi said ..make in India. Ok? All arms to be made in India. Ok? Good.
So why in the hell did we pay 130 million to China for Sri Ramanujacharya statue which Modi came to inaugurate?
Technology we don't have, artisans we have.
And still we spent? Unemployment for our chaps. Giving money to China for spending on armed forces to kill our soldiers?
From which angle is it nationalist?
Why is the press silent? They fear rampage by the karyakartha's.
But the information is out there on Wikipedia for those who would care to investigate.
Even for Patel statue we took help from Chinese workers.
What a shame...what a shame...they must be laughing at us. Was it so essential?
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@ihasaquestion (8274)
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11 Feb 22
I agree with you; let people be people..don't discriminate..
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@ihasaquestion (8274)
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11 Feb 22
@vandana7 But people won't think that far.. and the future generations are certainly innocent.
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@hora_fugit (5862)
• India
20 Feb 22
I have different opinion about hijab, but not being aware of the incident you refer to here and realizing it's entirely a different scene, I would say I agree with you. :) Provocations cannot be justified, and only bullies cry when they get a backlash.
Linking hijab with religion... - is it not linked already? Never felt it is a fashion thing.
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
13 Feb 22
You make a lot of sense. I guess you have answered your own question and not knowing a lot about your country I would have to say you are quite right about it all.
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
13 Feb 22
@vandana7 we can only hope something will change. It just seems it takes so long to change laws that are not fair to right. 
More people need to step up like you and at least put a little into that change. Eventually it might work. 
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
14 Feb 22
@xander6464 You know my evil nature...shocked...I thought I had it hidden in wraps.
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@xander6464 (40872)
• Wapello, Iowa
13 Feb 22
@vandana7 Not at all. I think you would have a good time sentencing people to all kinds of creative and effective punishments.
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@LindaOHio (156056)
• United States
11 Feb 22
Why does there have to be uniformity? Why not let those be that want the dot on the forehead? Or those that want to wear the hijab?
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
11 Feb 22
Uniforms were to prevent children differentiate based on their financial background. But that does not always work. Kinda, a rich child will get shoes replaced faster than a poor child. Bags, water bottles, jewelry, pens, pencils. Just how many things are we going to bring uniformity in? Is it really possible? To an extent, yes, not completely. Banning students from entering examination hall just because they wore hijab ..is ridiculous.
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@Fa_Maverick (9458)
• Australia
14 Feb 22
They should be able to wear it. It doesn't help them to escape undesirable attention... women in hijabs still get harassed sexually in the streets and I dare say in a schooling environment. "Does the hijab distract other students from focusing on what is being taught in the class?" I remember some jewellery and stuff being banned because it is distracting for students... No jewellery isn't distracting... stopping a class to scream at a student about their jewellery or even facial hair is.
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@FaruMesh (3508)
• India
12 Feb 22
I really appreciate, why are our media and national television is not giving importance for these types issues. Are they still waiting to see the fire. Shame on them. Mam, people like you should come forward to lead this country otherwise it will go from bad to worse. Government is trying the policy divide and rule just for votes. Spreading hatred between common people, shame on them.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
13 Feb 22
Arvind Kejriwal is ok. I think he should be brought to power.
I will, after this covid blessed thing goes, and my father feels better, file PIL (public interest litigations) in court to see that governments start feeling some pressure.
We all have something in our closets...so becoming a public figure is not easy. Maligning a name becomes very easy, and people stop trusting the maligned person .. whether it pertains to the actual issue or not.
Take for example the Hijab issue. My college friends wore it. We had no issues with it.
Why did they have to change the rule of uniform if there was no issue with it?
To prevent that question coming up they are saying it is a conspiracy by people who are against CAA.
So yes, becoming leader is becoming helpless. But if I push in my fangs through justice, it will be fun.
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@FaruMesh (3508)
• India
15 Feb 22
@vandana7 Around 30 students were not allowed to enter the school premises in Bangalore yesterday because they were wearing hijab. But with almost a same dress code, if it's a Christian Nun these rules are not applicable for them.
Actually politicians are making mess of this I guess, as election is going on in 3 major states. They want this fire and smoke always and the best thing is to play with is religion. Divide and rule is always their agenda as they don't have much to point out any achievements after ruling all these years other than rising inflation or the way they handled the covid situation.
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