A Fine Line With Paydays

@porwest (78761)
United States
August 19, 2022 7:38am CST
Companies say it all the time. They tell customers, "Due to the rising costs to produce the products we make and sell, we have no choice but to raise prices." It's a true statement that makes sense. A company must remain afloat, and if the company cannot make a profit it cannot stay in business. At the same time, this is not often thought of the same way when it comes to the rising costs incurred by the employee. It costs more to drive to work. It costs more to wash your clothes, keep the lights on, and buy groceries and other household items. The employee does not, unfortunately get to use the same argument when it comes to their bosses. "Due to the higher cost of living I am left no choice but to ask for a raise in my compensation for the work I do for you." You will get laughed out of the office. But it is a fine line of course. Because the cost of the labor is as much a part of the cost of doing business as much as any other cost the business incurs. And so, offering pay raises to employees may only serve to exacerbate the problem. Still, I think that at least some consideration should be made in this regard when it COMES to the employees. We are ALL incurring higher costs to conduct our day to day operations. Especially when the employees know that prices are being raised on the things they produce, but see their paychecks remain the same, or find themselves at the butt end of the cost reductions—this actually serves to make employees LESS productive, further hurting the objectives of the business. So, employers need to be aware of this and I think when inflation is hurting everyone, there has to be at least some thought to making the time offered by their employees more valuable for everyone. If it serves no other purpose than to make the employees FEEL like the employer cares about their needs, then I think it gets the goal accomplished. A little bit goes a long way to send a message. If the company has the ability to raise prices in higher cost environments, the employee providing services to the company should have the same option and benefit of doing so as well. If companies DO NOT recognize this, I think they do it at their own peril, not realizing the underlying cost added to their bottom line when employees slow down to make up the difference. In a sense, the employee basically says, "Your $15 worth of pay is now only worth $13 worth of work. So, you will get $13 worth of work."
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@aninditasen (15719)
• Raurkela, India
19 Aug 22
That's true. Companies need profit but doesn't realize that the employees need a pay hike to meet their price rise.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
19 Aug 22
It is a double edged sword, and often a double standard in reasoning. IMO.
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@aninditasen (15719)
• Raurkela, India
20 Aug 22
@porwest Yes, that's true. No doubt small entrepreneurs are coming up to be independent from such companies.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
20 Aug 22
@aninditasen Some people do go off on their own. Many go under though, because they do not realize that being in business for yourself is often longer hours and more work than working for someone else. Not everyone is prepared for that reality, nor measure up to the task.
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• Nairobi, Kenya
19 Aug 22
Inflation is everywhere and is really bad
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
19 Aug 22
It has been a virtual nightmare, especially for the poor.
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@kobesbuddy (74424)
• East Tawas, Michigan
19 Aug 22
@porwest My parents worked very hard, all their lives. When it came to free commodities or state help with rising bills, their SS income was right on the boarder-line and they didn't get an ounce of help. Poverty? Mom cooked bean soup and oatmeal regularly, so they had enough to eat. A crime? YES!
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
19 Aug 22
@kobesbuddy It can be a terrible situation. Especially when you reach that stage where you don't have the ability to earn an income anymore. The thing about social security though, that I always try to drive home to mostly the younger folks is this: It is not a pension. It never was designed to be enough to live on. It is a supplement. Granted, years back things were very much different. There weren't things like 401k plans for example. Even access to investing in the stock market was very different. There were still plenty of opportunities to save and invest when our parents and grandparents were coming up, but not like we have now. Not even close. What younger people should do now is review that social security statement they get every single year and look at what they are going to get, and ask themselves, "Is that enough?" If the answer is no, then it is a sign that more should be done to fill in the gap now rather than be surprised or angry when the day comes that that's all they have and it is providing exactly what it was intended to provide... Not enough.
@RebeccasFarm (86485)
• United States
19 Aug 22
This is why I think we should all be hunter gatherers and get your own stuff not to depend on companies, cars, houses, etc
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• United States
19 Aug 22
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
19 Aug 22
Well, the alternative to that is investing—that way you can make your own way and tell the boss to pound sand if he does not agree to your terms. lol
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@1creekgirl (40396)
• United States
19 Aug 22
That makes a lot of sense. I know the supply chain issue affects a lot of products. But how can the increased price of insurance be a result of that? I agree that wages need at least a small increase to even try to keep up with inflation.
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@1creekgirl (40396)
• United States
19 Aug 22
@porwest Thanks for the info....I understand it better now.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
19 Aug 22
Insurance is all about replacement costs. If the cost to replace things material wise are higher, so is the cost of the insurance. At the same time medical insurance is equally influenced since medical equipment also uses materials, hospitals pay more for energy and and with everything due to inflation, every cost will rise. Wages always lag inflation, unfortunately. But like I said, rising wages exacerbate the problem it is because higher labor costs also add to more inflation.
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@LindaOHio (155497)
• United States
19 Aug 22
You are right about it being a double-edged sword.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
19 Aug 22
It is also one of life's ironies. Employees always have to fight tooth and nail to get more and few people at the top ever feel the request is ever justified.
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@Beestring (13272)
• Hong Kong
19 Aug 22
Employees in HK are expected to get a salary increment of 3.5% in 2022. After factoring in inflation, the real salary increase in Hong Kong will be about 1.1%. How's the situation in the US? With such a high inflation rate, employees are not getting a fair increment?
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
20 Aug 22
@Beestring I don't think pay raises change anything for anyone with money problems. The typical reason people have money problems is because of spending issues. Not income issues.
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@Beestring (13272)
• Hong Kong
20 Aug 22
@porwest What you meant is after the raise, prices may go up even further. So, the problem remains?
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@Beestring (13272)
• Hong Kong
20 Aug 22
@porwest At least they get a pay raise. Otherwise, life would be even more difficult.
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• United States
19 Aug 22
All the years I was working it was rare to get a raise. As employees we grumbled amongst ourselves that it was unfair not to see an increase in pay with the cost of living constantly going up.
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• United States
20 Aug 22
@porwest you were smart to compensate through saving and investing.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
20 Aug 22
It's a tough thing, especially if one honestly feels like they have earned a bit more for the work they do. I have always compensated myself through saving and investing. A lot of the time it is the only way to actually get ahead and beat the system.
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@moffittjc (118365)
• Gainesville, Florida
21 Aug 22
I just got a very nice and unexpected pay raise at work that was offered to us to help with inflationary increases. So while most employers may be stingy when it comes to raises, some actually do care and take care of their employers. I know I'm in the minority, but it is nice to know that some will reach out to help. I also heard from some of my former co-workers at Home Depot that they are also getting raises to help offset the inflationary increases. So at least a few companies are trying. I still think the wages offered are not adequate for most people, but at least some companies are making token gestures.
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@moffittjc (118365)
• Gainesville, Florida
23 Aug 22
@porwest I was very fortunate that I got a nice, hefty raise this year.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
22 Aug 22
As the old saying goes, something is always better than nothing, and while the something may not be a whole heck of a lot, an A still gets awarded for making the effort. I would appreciate an increase on the hourly portion of my pay, but I don't see that coming. I can give myself a little raise by coming in a bit earlier, staying a bit later, and taking shorter lunches—but it still costs me time.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
23 Aug 22
@moffittjc My wife got a nice little raise as well a few months ago. The best plan on my end is to just keep adding to my dividends—works like a charm.
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19 Aug 22
@porwest This is a very disgraceful malpractice of justice mistreating our hardworking employees this way. "Where there is unrighteousness, a king that leads it falls to his own peril. And the people rejoice when their king leads righteously" (Proverbs, Bible)
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20 Aug 22
@porwest I'm sure you do. "And by their fruit you shall know them." The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD, And He delights in his way. Is all I can think of in response.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
20 Aug 22
There are some companies who consider their employees an investment and an integral part of their success. Those are the ones I want to work for.
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@Kandae11 (53678)
19 Aug 22
I was thinking recently when food production companies keep raising prices - some legitimate , others not. At some point they will realize that consumers simply do not have the money to buy the product at the elevated price and they will end up losing. So the price must be dropped if they hope to make any kind of profit. Where possible people will use substitutes that are more pocket friendly.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
20 Aug 22
I definitely refrain from certain items when the price is too high, no matter the reason. I have not bought eggs in three weeks for example. I think other consumers do this as well, and practicing a sort of "on message spending" practice does let producers and suppliers know when they aren't going to get what they want—so invariably prices come down a bit due to that and for simple supply and demand reasons. That is PART of the reason gas prices fell a bit. Not because any problem was fixed causing higher prices at the pump. But because consumers are using less gas.
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• India
19 Aug 22
Yes this is what companies are doing and exploiting their employees
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
19 Aug 22
Sometimes rightly so and other times not. Of course, employees always want more. But sometimes circumstances actually call for more, and it should not always have to be asked for.
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