Working with undertrained Early Childhood Educators.

@TheHorse (206745)
Walnut Creek, California
February 23, 2023 11:18am CST
I have worked with littlies, either as a researcher or as a teacher/psychologist, for most of my life. When I'm playing with my young charges, it might look to the casual observer that we're all just a having a good 'ol time. But I always have specific developmental goals when I work with kids, and those goals are informed by (too) many years of education. One of the things that sometimes bothers me is working with ECE teachers who are not well-trained. Some make kids cry unnecessarily, seem to have no goals, and give kids inappropriate toys to play with, included those blasted flashy battery-powered music things that fail to teach cause-and-effect, or anything else. What led to this post is a pretty nuanced example of being aware of kids' needs, and of possible frustrations. I like to make "stacky towers" out of "giant Legos" with my 1- and 2-year-olds right now. But the giant Legos at my friend's daycare have two different "brands" of giant Legos in the same generic plastic container. They do not fit into each other. Rather than "get rid of " the less common ones with the "flat tops," I decided to help the kids learn to distinguish between them. If a kid tries to put one into the other, and it doesn't work, we all go "oh no!" put our hands to our temples, and laugh. These blocks teach fine motor skills, teamwork, sharing, planning, color discrimination and labeling, etc. I find it interesting that the kids are able to discriminate between the flat top and "beveled"-top blacks at 1 1/2-years-old. I wonder if the other teachers have even noticed that there are two different kinds of blocks in the container. In any case, here is a photo of two "different" brands of blocks that I took yesterday. I'm sure we'll be playing with them again today.
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@marguicha (215960)
• Chile
23 Feb 23
I have noticed that several brands of toys donĀ“t exactly fit. And many toys are not made for children at all! The last time I was driven crazy by a child was when I babysat Vicente, my grandson, while his mom was at work. I was about to smother him until I noticed that he did not play with his toys but rather studied them. He looked at them, he smelled and tasted them, he made them roll. After a while he was not interested in them any longer and while I tried to cook something for lunch, he crawled to the dining room table, probably to kill himself. So I washed all the fruit that I had around and gave them to him. He was happy. He had new toys. And I was happy. We would have lunch!
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Feb 23
Heh. Anything can be a toy to a kid.
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@marguicha (215960)
• Chile
23 Feb 23
@TheHorse Sometimes apples ans oranges are better than the expensive toys that end up in their ears and noses
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Feb 23
@marguicha Yes, we try to have toys for littlies that are too big for random insertion and dining.
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@jstory07 (134727)
• Roseburg, Oregon
23 Feb 23
My kids know the difference at an early age. I had two big bags of each. Over the years they all broke. My kids like the wooden blocks that my Dad made for them from different sizes he cut up left from when he build a garage. We sanded them and painted them in two different colors. They could match the sizes and colors together.
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@jstory07 (134727)
• Roseburg, Oregon
23 Feb 23
@TheHorse I had those blocks through all of my six children. Than I repainted them and gave them to my granddaughter for her two boys.
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Feb 23
I think wooden toys are the best! I love regular ol' wooden stacky blocks.
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 23
@jstory07 Very cool.
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@much2say (53944)
• Los Angeles, California
23 Feb 23
We need more educators like you - seriously. You "craft" your teaching methods with a greater purpose to help the kids. It's not just "baby sitting" or finding a way to keep a kid simply occupied - these children will learn and develop with your guidance. Fortunate are the kids whose teachers don't see them just as a "job". Yep - we had the similar but different blocks too. My kids sorted them out as the good quality ones and the cheap ones .
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@much2say (53944)
• Los Angeles, California
25 Feb 23
@TheHorse Oh my gosh, we've done that too .
@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 23
Heh. I've had kids sort h Crayola crayons from the "cheap Dollar Store" ones.
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@kaylachan (58368)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
23 Feb 23
I am sure they would much rather complain they don't get paid enough. Not all teachers are like that, but some teachers do feel that way.
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Feb 23
You know how I feel about "entitlement issues."
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@rakski (112925)
• Philippines
24 Feb 23
this will also teach the kids to distinguish which is which.
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@rakski (112925)
• Philippines
24 Feb 23
@TheHorse it will benefit them a lot.
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 23
@rakski I certainly hope so.
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 23
Yep. A very straightforward concept.
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@Plethos (13560)
• United States
23 Feb 23
- i think you need to play with the ece teachers.
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• New Zealand
24 Feb 23
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 23
Some of them seem beyond repair.
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@Plethos (13560)
• United States
24 Feb 23
@TheHorse - my gf used to be an ece/preschool teacher. she would make sure that she and and her teachers attended work shops to improve on thier skills and to stay current.
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• New Zealand
24 Feb 23
I think most, not all educators just don't care. It is more like a stable source of income. Most aren't passionate about the job. I feel they disregard the fact that teaching kids at that level are the biggest responsibility one can take. There is absolutely nothing that they aren't aware of like mismatched toys. I feel they just don't care. I read your post twice and the love and passion you have clearly show. Also, there is so much demand for early childhood educators that undertrained or unworthy ones also are getting employed. It is a sad situation but what to do?
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 23
I think many "really bright" people don't do into ECE because the pay is so low. I have always taught at the College or had some other job while spending some time in direct contact with littlies.
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@vandana7 (98995)
• India
24 Feb 23
You are too perfect to be true.
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@vandana7 (98995)
• India
25 Feb 23
@TheHorse I want to know more about that side...evil grin.
@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 23
I tend to post more about the good stuff than my evil side.
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@xander6464 (40914)
• Wapello, Iowa
23 Feb 23
When Diaper Don gets back into office, all your troubles will be over. He's going to get rid of the child labor laws and put those kids to work in coal mines where they belong.
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@xander6464 (40914)
• Wapello, Iowa
25 Feb 23
@TheHorse Yes. The poor ones. I guess you'll still be able to work with the rich ones because they won't be forced to work.
@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 23
Even the white ones?
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@RasmaSandra (73774)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
23 Feb 23
I think you would make an excellent trainer for these kinds of teachers if needed. I know at one time I took early childhood education at university but since I had no one who could help train me I gave up on that career,
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• Eugene, Oregon
24 Feb 23
It's great that you are able to work with little kids that way. Early development is so important.
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 23
I agree. I agree with psychologists who say that later "schemas" are built upon earlier schemas.
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@RubyHawk (99423)
• Atlanta, Georgia
24 Feb 23
Kids are smart to be able to figure it out at one and a half years old.
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 23
They continue to amaze me.
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Feb 23
@RubyHawk I have come to accept that.
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@RubyHawk (99423)
• Atlanta, Georgia
24 Feb 23
@TheHorse Little kids are smarter then we think.
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@LindaOHio (157395)
• United States
24 Feb 23
I doubt very much if the other teachers are as "on point" as you seem to be.
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 23
I can't tell for sure if their training was inadequate, they weren't listening in class, or if they just see ECE education as babysitting and a paycheck.
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@LindaOHio (157395)
• United States
25 Feb 23
@TheHorse It could be all three!
@Kouponkaren (5495)
• United States
24 Feb 23
Wow, those are very close. I bet the little ones notice the difference better than the teachers do!
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@TheHorse (206745)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 23
Better than some teachers.
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@wolfgirl569 (95854)
• Marion, Ohio
24 Feb 23
That is a fun way to teach them.
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@Fleura (29221)
• United Kingdom
24 Feb 23
Glad you've found a way to make the most of that annoying incompatibility!
@JudyEv (326247)
• Rockingham, Australia
24 Feb 23
This must be incredibly frustrating but it's good you've managed to turn what could be a negative into a positive.
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