Find Your Number

@porwest (112717)
United States
October 13, 2025 9:29am CST
What is retirement? It's really just a number that is preceded by a question. "How much do I need to comfortably live?" Is it a highly advanced mathematical equation you need to use? No. Not at all. The easiest way to find your number is to use the Rule of 25. It's as simple as it gets. How much do you make in a year, and is that what you want to retire with? Let's say you need $60,000 a year to live comfortably. Multiply that by 25 and you come up with $1.5 million. That's your number. In order to generate $60,000 a year from interest and dividends, you need to save $1.5 million. Is $40,000 your number? Times 25 that's $1 million. Are you ambitious or do you need more? Maybe your number is $100,000 a year. You will need to save $2.5 million. Now, what is the final number based on? Another rule. The 4% rule. This rule states you can comfortably withdraw money at a rate of 4% each year from the total and your money will last forever assuming your money is earning at expected annual rates of return, such as based on the average lifetime returns of the S&P 500. Once you know your number, you can begin the process of determining how to get there. Can you ask for a raise? Can you cut some expenses? Can you increase your interest or dividend return rates? Can you take on an extra job or do a side gig to accumulate the needed money? Can you increase your 401k contributions 1% or 2%? The first step to getting where you want is knowing where you need to go, and it's best to use a map that shows you the roads and highways that will get you there rather than just blindly drive around in circles before you figure it out... Or get lost. When you find your number, it becomes something you can see, and it gives you something real and tangible to work with. Once you know, you know, and it offers you a real destination.
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@xFiacre (14782)
• Ireland
13 Oct
@porwest That’s both simple and genius. It’s quite empowering.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
14 Oct
Once you can put things to an actual number, suddenly every extra dollar has a new meaning and purpose, and it makes you want to keep it all that much more.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
14 Oct
@LooeyVille You are WAY too kind. lol
@lovebuglena (52140)
• Staten Island, New York
13 Oct
Thank you for educating us here.
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@lovebuglena (52140)
• Staten Island, New York
15 Oct
@porwest you get your two cents for sharing your two cents.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
17 Oct
@lovebuglena Yes. And those who don't listen to my advice get a BILL for two cents. LOL
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
15 Oct
Hey, you know I am always doing my best to try, even if 99.9% of the time it will help no one and all of it will fall on deaf ears. lol On the bright side, I still get my two cents and can add it to my final number.
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@LindaOHio (222222)
• United States
14 Oct
I retired unexpectedly at 62. Fortunately we were prepared. Good explanation for those still working.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
14 Oct
That's who this is mostly geared towards, of course. But as for the ones who it is not geared towards, they have kids and grandkids and nieces and nephews and other young, working people in their lives. Why not pass it on?
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@Moonyana (291)
17 Oct
i also am preparing for my retirement, i am almost 48, but i try to look ahead. why the number 25? thats in dollars, right. Peso is our currency.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
19 Oct
25 is just a number that brings you to a number that matches your desired annual "draw." For example, if you want $60,000 a year, times 25 that's $1.5 million. It is also based on the 4% rule. So 4% of $1.5 million is $60,000. One assumes they will earn between 6% and 8% year over year (based on average annual returns of the S&P 500), and so at a 4% annual draw your $1.5 million could "technically" last forever. In more narrow terms, where the 25 comes from is that it assumes you'd live, after retirement, for about 25 years, and if you didn't earn a single penny MORE than 4%, you could still draw 4% for 25 years before your balance would be zero. I am not sure how things add up in the Philippines. In other words, I don't know what one could reasonably expect in terms of annual returns that would allow for a sustainable lifetime drawdown, but that is something I am sure, with a little research, you could figure out. But the rule would be similar IF the returns and drawdown rates were the same, or close to it. Let's say you need 336,000 pesos a year to live and retire comfortably. Times 25 means you'd need to save 8,400,000 pesos in order to be able to draw 4% forever, assuming you could earn more than 4% in annual interest on your saved money. Hope that helps.
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