Do you think Mormon is the most pure in christianity?

Indonesia
January 12, 2007 3:31pm CST
A couple months ago I've requested the book of mormon via the internet. I requested it because mormon is new thing to me among christianity over the world and I'd like to know it. The book itself is delivered to me by two minister in nice suit, in the same time they're preaching that another christian is false and just mormon are the pure and right. Hmmmm.... is that true? On the first glance reading the book of mormon I immediately found some strange evidence served. For me, I'm not searching new religion to embrace. I only want to know new things regarding christianity all over the world. Based to my little research there are 73 Minor Sect and 5 Major sects related to this religion. Which one is the really pure? To be honest I don't know and I don't want to know deeply for this is not my faith. But really, i've trigerred by the claims by this mormons. So, I want your opinion is the mormon's claim true or what?
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@farocop44 (447)
• Canada
13 Jan 07
Um no I think quite the opposite, from what I know of Mormonism many of their beliefs go against the laws of the land and morality of the majority of people. Does the bible not say follow the laws or something of that nature. And would that not mean Mormons are breaking these same laws? Eg: marriage with one man and one woman. Mormons believe a man can marry more than one woman. But this is against the law in North America. I dont know very much of their beliefs as I am not interested in learning but what I have learned seems contrary to our civilzation.
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@sunrisekn (1466)
• United States
13 Jan 07
True Mormons follow the law of the land. You may be thinking of the Reformed Mormon CHurch, they believe polygomy is the one true may to heaven.
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• Canada
15 Jan 07
Yea sunrisekn, you may be right. As I said I really have no interest in following the Mormon religion so I could have heard info about the radical unit you mentioned. But if this is the case, and they are still considered part of that religion, would that not still lead to questions of the quality and validity of the Mormon faith if something like this is still practiced?
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• Indonesia
13 Jan 07
Dear Farocopp, As far as i know mormons don't practice polygamy anymore. For in the book of jacob (one of mormon books) mormon should not practice polygamy and comitting adultry. Jacob cursed that practice. What made my head spinning-up is their fundamental believe that God the father, Jesus and Holly spirit is a sparate being. God the Father also have flesh and bone as much like Jesus According to their covenant. It contradict with what Nefi --their prophet-- taught, that God, Jesus and Holly spirit is one being. I think mormon scholar must re-learn their faith much deeply to find such contradicts. One again, Mormon stated that in the past there is a great war in Hill Cummorah (Salt Lake), but until this very moment they could't serve any archeological prove that yes there are any great war.
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• United States
13 Jan 07
I believe that the Mormon religion is just a man-made religion and has little to do with Christianity. Jesus said in John 14:6 "I am the way, the truth and the life. Noone comes to the Father but through Me" Either Jesus is a lier or every other spiritual leader claiming equality with God's authority is false. The real issue is that you have to make a choice. It is not like an election where the majority decides the truth. You have to either choose to submit to the fact that you are a sinner without any chance of pleasing God and escaping the Hell we all deserve at conception and accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior or you take your chances with the millions of other options. I chose Jesus and my life has been so transformed in ways I couldn't even imagine that I recommend you bow now and accept Him, since noone knows the moment of final breath. If I am wrong, what have you lost? Any Bible has all the truth you need compared to one letter in the Mormon 'bible'.
• Indonesia
13 Jan 07
Haloo openminded, Mormons do not believe in hell. And yes, New and old testament still superior compared to book of mormon. In fact Mormons still use the bible even they claim that bible is incomplete and not properly translated.
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• Indonesia
7 Feb 07
Hmmmm..... You said that 'Bible have translated and translated many times' and you also said the mormon believe to the bible if 'they are properly translated'. Beside not properly translated, mormon also said that they are incomplete, am i right? After re-transltated so many times, do you believe that the recent "King James Version" is properly translated now? Because if you do, then I am afraid mormon will fall to what Paul have said in Galatia 1:6-8, as follow: #6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of christ unto another gospel. #7. Which is Not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. #8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. And If you don't believe that the Bible have properly translated, then why are you mormon still following the King James Version? I've heard that Joseph Smith have Inspired Version of Bible. Why don't mormon follow that?
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• United States
5 Feb 07
The Mormons belive the bible to be the word of god as long as it was translated correctly. There are many different versions of the bibly and the Mormons follow the "King James" version. The bible has been translated and retranslated many times, that is why we sat "if it is translated correctly". The Book of Mormon is another testament of Jesus Christ.
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@shiboleth (270)
• Canada
13 Jan 07
The mormons follow a prophet who is not Jesus Christ. I do not think that they are true Christians for they follow the teachings of a man instead of Our Lord.
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@katprice (806)
• United States
15 Feb 07
That's polytheism. It goes directly against what is stated in the Bible in Isaiah 44:6 I am the first and I am the last and beside me there is no God.
• United States
5 Feb 07
We dont worship the prophet, we worship Heavenly Father and Jesus.
• United States
13 Jan 07
i knew a Mormon when I was younger, and I almost got in a lot of trouble cuz of that friendship. In fact, the only reason I escaped being charged with a crime was cuz the victim had previously spoken with me and had taken a liking towards me... He was the furthest thing from a spiritual person.
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@katprice (806)
• United States
9 Feb 07
The Mormons worship a false idol, so the answer is no, their teachings are not great. Get out while you can. You can find an exit letter on http://www.mormonnomore.com
• United States
13 Jan 07
I think in any religion you will find people who follow the teaching and those that don't, your "friend" appears to have been one that didn't really follow the teachings.
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• Indonesia
13 Jan 07
In any religion there are always some lamb which are lost. LOL But my point now, why you discharge from Mormon. Isn't their theaching really great?
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@ethanzap (37)
• United States
13 Jan 07
I would say that the claim is true however that is because I have found out for myself. I have read the book and and have had many spiritual experinces from reading it. I would suggest reading the Book of Mormon with an open mind and see if it does anything for you, pray about it ask God to help you understand if there is anything to it. But you said you didn't want to know in which case you won't, I just wanted to let you know you could know. When they say it is the pure and right one I don't think they mean to say all the other religions are wrong rather they have less truths and what I mean by truths are correct things that will help you get closer to God. There are lots of ways to grow spiritualy and the Mormon faith has lots of tools to help one grow Spiritually. Pretty much all religions if truly followed will help you grow spiritually, Mormons just claim they have a little more understanding to help one grow more.
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• Indonesia
13 Jan 07
Hi EthanZap, Hmmmm I see their missionair is humble people and the Mormon church is great church indeed, it is proved by charity they sent to Indonesia during yogya earthquake. But i think we cannot rely only to what action they have done to help needy people or only rely to their humble manner when we talk about religion. To be honest, I've read the most of Book of Mormon +/- 85% of it with the mind wide open. Still, i couldn't find something essential in it compared to old and new testament. I've done a very little research about Mormon and find out that this sect is based only upon vision received by Joseph Smith in 1820 (?). If I were you, before embracing this faith. I would do some due diligence first to asure myself that this sect is legit. Regarding about their claim about the purity, I think it is based on book of mormon itself. I read (I forgot the verses) that in the future "there are only two church which one is the church of Jesus while the others are Demonic Churchs" Mormon also claim that the bible is incomplete for 15 books were lost and rest is not properly translated. I don't know, my be i just have a summir understanding in this time
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@nonew3 (1941)
• United States
4 May 07
I still can't grasp why they feel the need for protective underwear. I just buy the usual stuff at the store. I don't order mine from the Mormon Church. Mine come in a six-pack. The usual stuff, made of cotton. It seems awfully superstitious to me to think that any sort of underwear has special protective powers.
@nonew3 (1941)
• United States
4 May 07
I fully agree that before you sign on the dotted line with ANY religion, do your research! You want to know fully what you are getting into. Religion is a very personal and serious matter that is not to be taken lightly.
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• United States
12 Jan 07
I think that you will have a hard time proving that any religion is true. In fact, being murky and difficult to understand (meaning full of conflicting advice in significant areas) works in favor of religion because it allows individuals to interpret the writings in whatever way they feel is best. It's really impossible to answer your question:"which one is really pure?" becuase they'll all claim to be the most correct, most "pure". I think it's really good that you're investigating and learning about religions in general. May I suggest starting with the basic question of what evidence there is that a god or gods actually exist? If you can find the hard evidence of god's existence, you will likely be able to extrapolate the most pure religion.
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• Indonesia
13 Jan 07
Hi Tangeldup, Nice to know you and your comment. I agree with you to back to the basic by asking are there any gods? For this question i don't hesitate there is a supreme being who ruled and maintain this world. He is God. To prove the existance of God we could see His Creatures in this Universe, from amoeba to galaxy. Are they come up by itself? According to evolution theory, yes they came up by itself? But, unfortunately, the evolution theory had doomed. So we can't rely on it anymore. You can research what i've just said, bay visiting: http://www.evolutiondeceit.com There are so much evidence that prove there is a God who create and ruled our world. The problem is, which God? Of course, any religion will claim that their God created this world. Analizing that we pray to different god, Christian to Jesus, Jew to Yahweh, Islam to Allah, Budha to Sidharta Gautama, hindu to three gods and so on and so on, at the end I come up to one conclusion that these religions can't be all right (divine). There must be only one which is right otherwise all are false. And we or I should find what is the true one.
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• Italy
13 Jan 07
Wow, don't you think that site seems a little biased? That's like me giving you a site called thereisnogod.com. Of course it will say that evolution is incorrect. Maybe you should research who is saying this before you buy into it.
13 Jan 07
This is a good idea, and a search I have been on since my Religious Studies teacher (an Anglican vicar) told me that the Garden of Eden was just a way to start the book, and shouldn't be taken literally. But, I shouldn't start with trying to find God, I haven't found any evidence for or against, only evidence of the men who run religions, being corrupt and greedy, and happy to use religion to fit their personal needs. Start with the Nag Hammadi texts, the Gnostic and Coptic Gospels. I've made it as far back as Sumerian Nephilim worship, circa 2500BC, so far, but there are still gaps, and new exploits to uncover.
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@budsr03 (2350)
• Canada
13 Jan 07
There is good in any religion if only the people would practice their beliefs.
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@budsr03 (2350)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
I can agree with you somewhat, but could you explain a religion or religions that might be harmful? Thanx.
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• United States
13 Jan 07
Not necessarily. I think there is potential for good and good people in every religion. But sometimes practicing all the beliefs of a religion can be harmful to that person or other people in their lives. Maybe not physically, but spiritually and emotionally harmful.
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• United States
4 Feb 07
sorry for butting in but i couldn't help it,there is only one true religion,there is a lot of religions in this world,and even tho a lot of them claim to be good you can see they're not by their fruit,meanig their acctions,you think all this religious people fighting in iraq are from good religions,they call to their god when they bomb children schools,or at the outdoor produce stores,like they did a day ago,i belive in God,Jahovah God,the supreme been,and his son, jesus the christ,and jesus was killed by very religious people in those days,so that tells me again,not all religions are good.
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• United States
13 Jan 07
To be honest, though I know the basic history, founding, and some Mormons personally, I don't really know the religion in enough detail to make judgement that it is pure. I just know enough about it to know that it is not the way I want to worship or live.
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@katprice (806)
• United States
9 Feb 07
I'm with you, Darlene! I know a few Mormons. One of them was asked to leave a women's care clinic that she was volunteering at after they found out she was LDS. I told her it didn't surprise me. Their religion is whack.
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• United States
13 Jan 07
I see several got off on a tangent and didn't really address the question posed... Opinion: Is the Mormon's claim true? If one does a bit of research about the beginnings of the Mormon church, they will find that Joesph Smith was considered a ne'er do well seeking ways to avoid work by the people of his time...his claim of an angel coming to him as a prophet was a bit timely considering his circumstances at that time... Mormonism is a fairly new religion when one considers the timelines of the other major religions of the world...Mormonism isn't quite Christainity, nor is it directly related to any other major religion, although it does take some aspects of each as it's own. When one considers the great numbers of 'books' that have been destroyed throughout history...the library of Alexandria burning, books burned during the Inquestion, the 'Brownshirts' burning books in Germany...just to name three events...one must come to the conclusion that much of the acumulated knowledge of the ages has been lost...'gospels', journals, records which would confirm or deny postulated positions...gone forever from our grasp. To assume any religion or sect has the whole truth is to assume the impossible is possible just because someone or a group wish it so. If one is interested in gaining knowledge about religion in general, they must read not only that which is held as sacrosant by each religion or sect, but also the history which surrounds it's beginnings and it's own history. Faith is to blindly believe...yet faith doesn't have to be. Faith can exist upon factual evidence put forth and assimulated into the whole. The wise subscribe to these words. Do not lead, I may not follow. Do not follow, I may not lead. If you seek, you may seek with me and together perhaps there shall be answers to questions yet unasked.
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15 Jan 07
Excellent answer, rightly awarded the 'best response'. Congratulations, and all the best.
• United States
13 Jan 07
I believe that the Mormon faith was founded by a man named "smith" who had a "religious" experience and began a new following - I have looked at the book of Mormons, the history etc. and personally it is not the truth that I have discovered through my search and study of Christianity. When I was wandering and searching I had considered what the Mormon teach, but in the end I decided it wasn't what I think to be "truth" I have spoken with many students of the Mormon faith and one of their major beliefs, is that they believe they can become gods, (the men only) in an afterlife, they also have their own book like you have mentioned and is the product of the thoughts and teaching of John Smith, that he discerened over some plates he discovered, none of it may any sense to me, so I moved on and found where I am comfortable in Christ and the beliefs I have and follow. -- SO that's my opinion, that there is no truth in the foundational belief of the mormom community -- Now I haven't meant to offend any one or to change anyones belief system -- I am expressing my opinion as the discussion requests :)
@katprice (806)
• United States
15 Feb 07
Sounds like something from the SciFi Channel. Gods and Goddesses of your own worlds? That goes directly against what is stated in the Bible.
• United States
13 Jan 07
As someone who was raised Mormon, I want to correct some of the information you've shared, just so no one is misinformed. The LDS (Mormon) Church was started, or as the LDS believe, "restored" by Joseph Smith (not John Smith, he was a man that knew Pocahontas ;). Also, I was always taught that the women would become Goddesses because LDS believe that God has a wife (they're our Heavenly Mother and Father), but he will not tell us her name because he does not want us to use it in vain like we do with his. For a man to become a God he has to be married to a woman, in the LDS temple so they are sealed for time and all eternity. Together they will be God and Goddess over their own worlds and people like what we have now.
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• United States
13 Jan 07
I don't believe that mormonism is the "true" religion, or the most pure. I think they are all debatable. No offense to Catholics, but I don't think they are as pure as it claims to be, either. Back to mormons, I do enjoy learning about new religions, and my husband has a friend that is Mormon, but I do not necessarily believe mormon teachings. Like, the spirits and all of that. I dont' think any of that is true, just as I don't believe in purgatory. But that's just me. As someone else said, it's all debatable.
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@katprice (806)
• United States
9 Feb 07
Yeah, Joseph Smith had himself a nice little hallucination out there in the woods. Shame that a whole religion is based on that event along with other false teachings and so many have been brainwashed. It's not a religion if there are support groups to help you escape it - that's what they call a cult.
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• United States
4 Feb 07
whilst I know there are many great people who are mormons I do feel they are being missled by false doctrines !they promote the book of mormon whilst in the Bible we read notto add to the scripture (since i cannot cut and paste the passage i recomend you read Revelation 22:18 (note) your mormon friends will tell you this applies only to the book of revelation Not True!
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• Indonesia
5 Feb 07
Thank you.... The Mormons is very humble and generous. But we couldn't rely to their generousity or humbleness for that trait could be found in any religion even paganism. Yes... like what you said Bible do not need any addition at all.
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• Indonesia
7 Feb 07
Yup.... even Jesus himself is tempted by satan, right.
• United States
6 Feb 07
youve got that right because in scripture we are told that even satan can appear as an angle of light in order to decieve us!
• India
8 Feb 07
I am a Christian, and I think the best suggestin I could give is to read the Bible for yourself. It will take time to understand some books, and you may need scholarly help in interpreting certain books or chapters. The early christians had used the Bible that normally christians use now...and if you to know pure christianity or original christianity, just take the Bible and read. And compare the things there and the things which many people might claim or say.
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• Indonesia
8 Feb 07
Thank you for your comments dear headhunter. Fortunately, I have my own Bible and Book Of Mormon so I can directly study both of it
@katprice (806)
• United States
13 Jul 07
Don't waste your time studying the Book of Mormon. All you need is in the Bible. The Book of Mormon contradicts itself many times and it contradicts the Bible too.
@Lavera1 (896)
• United States
9 Feb 07
Mormons aren't Christians. They believe in more than one god and also they teach that Jesus is one of many gods. And they don't accept Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior so they can't be Christians.
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@katprice (806)
• United States
23 Feb 07
They present themselves as a Christian religion when in reality they are not. Unfortunately, most followers don't find that out until it's too late and by then they are brainwashed.
• Indonesia
24 Feb 07
Hemmm seems they're practicing the Art of Deception using the name of Jesus. But in spite of that matter, Mormon grow rapidly. Even a new age thinker like Steven Covey is also a Mormon. Interesting.
• Indonesia
19 Feb 07
Hmmm I don't know either. But they claim to be follower of Jesus.
@siluka (303)
• Romania
13 Jan 07
no they don't
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• United States
16 Jan 07
Dearest tambangmas, Hello. Dear friend, The bible says that Jesus is the only way to heaven, now i am not familiar with the mormon religion, but there are no religions in heaven, no divisions or separtations of any kind. If you accept Jesus into your heart and as your personal saviour he will forgive you of your sins and He will show you which way to go. He will show you where you need to be. The other day i briefly doubted my faith as I had some people tell me that my belief was wrong. That i am supposed to go to a priest and confess my sins to him.....well, as i prayed that night i asked God to show me whether i was wrong or not! well, next morning as i was going to open my bible, I was spiritually lead to read 1John 3:19-24. This put peace in my heart. Ask God...He'll show you! Ps...Keep reading into chapter 4.
@korek222 (701)
• Poland
13 Jan 07
Hmm hard question i must say - they live with the rights they say are given by god by i think that in their society as in other societies there are better and worse kinds of behaviour and religion. For me chrisitnaity is not the condition you live in but it's the way of living. To by a pure christian you have to make your own conduct based on the bible and use it in your everyday behaviour. And there should be no exceptions from this rule at all. SO looking from this way it doesnt metter do you use new technology or not you should always obey the rules gave you.
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• United States
13 Jan 07
I just think they are a little strange. Like you cannot attend there wedding unless you are that religion or belong to there church. So that means if your immediate family is not mormon, they can't go. I think that is just wrong.
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@katprice (806)
• United States
15 Feb 07
You think that's just a LITTLE strange?! That's more than strange, it's ludicrous. Just think about it: All of your extended family would have to become members of that cult to attend a family members' wedding ceremony in the temple.
@demo3424 (598)
• India
12 Apr 07
i don't think mormon is the most pure in christianity.the most purest is the roman catholic because before the reformation there was the catholic and orthodox church.regarding mormons they are no crosses on their churches.
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@semak76 (187)
• United States
21 Apr 07
I had a good friend who was brought up mormon, but then denounced it on his own. he spent a long time researching and soul searching before coming to this decision. As I personally do not know much about this particular religion, I will not even try to give his reasonings, but there are mormon chat rooms out there where you can discuss more with them. As far as finding the true religion. It is impossible. There is no religion that can be PROVED true. them major basis of all religions is BELIEF. And if you believe enough, then it becomes true to you. It is impossible to disprove a religion of someone who truely believes, I would not even try.
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