Who's guilty of this?

@cook4t7 (202)
United States
June 2, 2007 2:02am CST
I remember when I first made a decision and let Yah change me, I was young, fired up with this new direction, wanting to give it to every body full of pep I supposed so many has went through the same. Everything was in place already set being brought up in a Christian environment. I wanted to know all that was in the word and was reading Exodus 20 and noticed that the Sabbath was the seventh day, I also noticed by our calender our Sunday worship was on the first day I wondered where the difference was because that's the way we all done it, but a few verses more it explained nothing was to be changed in any way and wow, that's what it says at the very end of the book in Revelations. Kind of made more sense where Jesus said not one jot or tittle of the law will pass. Then I figured well that's just for the Jews, anyway traditionally I always had been thought that. Then while reading the very beginning I notice the seventh day was part of creation and even counted off as the evening and morning, and there was no calenders Yah used the sun, moon, and stars for signs, and seasons, for days and for years. Wow there wasn't no Jews or any type of nation and he,d already created the Sabbath and hollowed it. No wonder Jesus said heaven and earth would pass away first before the Law. Then I happened to be at the end of Ecclesiastes 13 it said Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: fear yah, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14 for Yah shall bring every work into judgement, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. That was enough for me I broke off the chains of tradition and started recognising what Yah said not man. What about you?
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
2 Jun 07
Breaking off the chains of tradition is a continuing thing, because so much of our lives are intertwined with religious tradition. I'm glad you saw the difference and let God show you what He wanted. All of that said, the calendar we follow today is not the same as in the beginning. The "Seventh Day" could be any day of the week... our calendar just happens to have Sunday as the last day instead of the first. Do you see what I mean? What's really the "first day" depends on where you start and at this point in history, finding the true first day would be impossible. Nevertheless, if you feel that the Sabbath is on a Saturday, by all means, celebrate it so. Paul said that one man honors a day to the Lord and another man doesn't honor the day - to the Lord. It's the LORD that makes the difference, not the day. After all, the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath (according to Jesus!)
@peavey (16936)
• United States
3 Jun 07
Yes, of course, there is a "first day," but my point is, we don't know what day that is. Who's calendar are you following and how do you know that it's right from the beginning of time? Paul didn't go against what Messiah said and lived. Jesus healed on the Sabbath and he also allowed his disciples to "pluck grain" to eat, which went against the law. He deliberately worked on the Sabbath to show the religious leaders that the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath. In other words, God created this day of rest for us, not for the law. Being bound by the law is as binding as being bound by tradition. The days Paul speak of are those dedicated to idols or otherwise celebratory days. He says that if a person believes those days are holy or unholy, then he should treat them as such, and if he doesn't believe they are, then he should treat them as not being such. Life is in the Spirit of the Law, not the Letter of the Law. God called Paul to preach and teach that for our freedom. Christ came to set us free and to fulfill the law - to make it full and complete. Because it's completed by our faith and acceptance in His sacrifice, we are not bound by the Letter of the Law. This may not be the time to discuss these matters and I don't want to argue with you at all. I just want to be sure you understand my position. Grace to you, and blessings.
@cook4t7 (202)
• United States
6 Jun 07
Like I said the one set in motion in the beginning it's not calender as Julian calender, or Gregorian calender it's Yahwehs calender that can't change, if you can find a name of a day in the scripture show it, they were always in number the first day the second day and so on, thats how you find the true Sabbath or the feast days. thank you for your response Shalom
@cook4t7 (202)
• United States
11 Jun 07
As to the messiah healing on the Sabbath there's no where in the law against it, this was made traditions by the pharisees as the washing of the hands as a ritual even as they do to this day these are the traditions the messiah was talking about that added to the law, making them of none affect, same as the eating the grain in the field they were not to take a cycle to the grain not pulling it by hand as you are hungry read the law and study it then you will see why he was calling the priest hypocrites. and as for the calender they never used one period they started the first day of the month by the first sliver of the moon, then counted days forward, thank you this discussion is great Shalom
@abbey19 (3106)
• Gold Coast, Australia
11 Jun 07
It's nice to see that you are using God's name Yaweh, because most people these days do not use it. Once I got to know that God had a name, He became more personal to me and I felt closer to Him. I did break out of the chains of tradition a long time ago, and now take note of what Yah says, not mere man.
@cook4t7 (202)
• United States
11 Jun 07
It's beautiful to see that Jeremiah 12:16,17 and Jeremiah 16:19,20,21. is coming to past before our eyes, but it also speaks of a great affliction bringing the gentiles to understand his name I much rather know it now so I can call on him by it instead of titles they've given to every false deity under the sun thanks for the response Shalom