This Whole Non-Violence Thing

You should already know my stance. Someone dares to attack me they better be ready for a world of pain. Lay down & take it, I don't think so!!! Where are all these pansy arsed people breeding that someone hasn't already killed them?

I only know of One who actually stood by and didn't defend Himself but I'm certainly not Him and would like you do my best whatever it took to protect myself, my loved ones, and a stranger in need...

When I was a little girl, I watched my father get cold cocked by some guy at a protest rally. I don't even remember what they were protesting. I only remember my father falling. Then he stood and walked away. My mother, then, jumped on the man's back and started pounding him. The cops showed up a short time later and what was supposed to be a peaceful protest turned into a ton of people getting thrown into jail. My father is a different kind of person than most human beings. Yeah, he did what most will not do, but it was to prove a point. We once had a man living in the house who got drunk one night and got violent. My father, Mr. Peace, knocked the guy's head into a wall. Finally, on to my point. I read the discussion to which you referred and the responses were silly. "If someone slapped me for no reason, I would first try to figure out why they did it." That's a crock. A normal person will run or fight back, perhaps after the shock wore off. If put in such a situation, the brain shuts down and the body reacts. I know for a fact that if someone hit me, I'd clock them. I've done it before. It's a natural reaction. People who try to claim they would talk about it are only fooling themselves. if someone tried to hurt someone I loved, I'd end up in prison.

I think people who say non violence if pushed in corner they ussually will fight.... Everyone wants to think they wouldnt turn to violence but honestly that is a myth in my eyes you cn do one of three things, flight fright or fight and most dont just hunker up and go with out a fight.Schools sicken me they try to tell kids not to hit back but if a child hits them and the kid ignores it they keep hitting them you take a kid that will knock the bully back and the bully leaves them alone in most cases.

Hi lecanis, I feel certain that most people would try to protect themselves, if someone attacked them on the street. I think it's a natural instinct. I do believe however, that we must learn to live together in peace. Blessings.

I responded to this discussion too and I agree with you. Why allow someone to take control of you when you are physically capable of defending yourself? I have been a victim of a crime and although the person did not physically harm me I had dreams for several weeks after the incident where I harmed them. I think its natural to fight for your life.

"So why the heck do people think it's so strange that I believe in violence when necessary to protect myself?" - LOL because some ppl like to hide from reality by living in a snowglobe of illusion and lies they tell themselves ;-) I dont give a flying *beep* WHO the person is, if you are being attacked and your life depends on it, 9 out of 10 ppl WILL fight for it...I know I would! In fact I would feel very sorry for the dumba$$ that tries to hurt me or my kids cause I'd kill and not so much as bat an eye! "What kind of person just stands there and lets themselves be harmed without acting?" - I honestly dont know any personally LOL but living in the nutty, psychotic world that we do, I wouldnt be surprised if there are some very rare ppl somewhere like a monk maybe, thta WOULDNT fight back....BUT I would think ppl like that are EXTREMELY rare...And really, "fight or flight" is human instinct...its natural for a person to do either or but I honestly dont think that unless they've been TRAINED to do neither, a person could just take a beating...Its a natural human response to either fight back and protect yourself or run for the hills.. "Why should I be expected to do so?" - You shouldnt of course and any person who says otherwise is IMO an idiot :-/

All you were doing was giving your opinoin about what you would do in certain situations. I cannot see someone being critical of that. If you feel you have to fight someone to stay alive, then that is what you must do. I always knew you yoopers were as tough as nails..lol. I see no problem in protecting yourself if there is no other course of action. And in most cases, you only have an instant to decide what to do.

lecanis, each individual and situation is different. From my perspective there is no wrong answer here. There are some situations you can't talk your way out of. I too, would want to get away with my life. I know if faced with violence again, I will have the prescence of mind to defend myself. Especially since I have a baby boy. I need to be around for him - and if he were involved somehow - I'd fight even harder. And me, I'm a laid back - non violent person. Oh and I'd also fight for someone else's life - like if someone were being attacked.

I am not a Christian but I believe in nonviolence. There have been a number of Great Men in History who have given their lives in a non violent way. Anwar Sadat, the leader of Egypt back a few years stood up on the review stand and took the assassins bullets to save the lives of others. Jesus the mythical saviour of the world was supposed to have given his life for future generations. And the list goes on and on.These people believed in nonviolence. They were willing to sacrifice their lives for others.There is something about this that makes violence seem rather irrational.

I think the point is not to use violence as your first resort. You should only use violence as your last resort. If it is possible to get out of the situation without using violence then don't use it. Pause and think. Think about the consequences. Sure it may feel good to hit the person back but it will feel bad when the person strikes back. After all Would you want to fight back while still recovering from a previous fight. You probaly would but it would leave a scar and effect you emotionally. If it doesn't bother you about the scars it will bother those around you. They may end up saying something about your scars that you don't like. Sometimes you can lose your health because of a fight like injury.

I wish I had the answer. If someone came after me, I would obviously want to get away without chancing hurting myself but I wouldn't idly stand by and let someone attack me either. I would fight like a mad woman and have had to before. I refuse to be a victim. I was several times and I hated every second of it. I now have learned how to protect myself and have other things I need to feel safe. No one is going to scare me, traumatize me, or try to force me into anything again. I think it is empowering. I don't know what people expect but, if it ever comes down to me or someone else again, it will be me winning. I would kill for my kids and make no apologies. I don't want to ever have to be in that situation but, if I was, I would not hesitate to protect my kids from harm in any way necessary. Sometimes the only way to fight back is to...FIGHT BACK!

My nephew asked me this question recently but because I am a christian he expected me to say I would turn the other cheek. anyway I have been threatened more than once and beign a fighter before I accepted Jesus Christ in my life I just laughed when these things are issued to me. Honestly I refuse to stand there and be anyone's beating stick or punch bag. Its not that you ae violent my friend but it is our built in survival instinct kicking in. To me nothing is wrong with that and I know that I may get chastised by some felloe christians but thats the way I see it.

Wait?! Who in the world said violence is not the answer if someone is attacked on the streets or in any situation!? Who thought of that one up!? What's that person's answer when being attacked, something like this? **************************** Foolish dreamer: "Oh gee, I'm under attack. I will attempt to reason with this (thug/robber/rapist/kidnapper/murderer/etc)!" Foolish dreamer: "Excelsior sir!" *while being beaten on* "I couldn't help but notice you are attacking me. Did you know that is wrong?" Thug: "Gimme your wallet or I'll pound you again" Foolish dreamer: "Ah here you are sir!" Thug: "Get on your knees and face the wall" Foolish dreamer: "Ah, I've noticed you stopped attacking me! Does that mean my words have convinced you the errors of your violent ways?" *gunshot* ************************** Personally I'll defend myself and loved ones despite what some other clown says about it.

It's all semantics. I think people don't like to hear that people are willing to fight but if you said you were willing to defend yourself and defend others who are not able to defend themselves, generally people would be happier with that.

Hi Lecanis, I think we are on the same platform. Non-violence is merely a fantasy, why on earth should we not fight it out! For me, it has always been - offense is the best defense and I hardly care about morality and stuff like that. I need to save myself and for that I would do what it takes. obviously not at the cost of harming the uninvolved ppl, that goes without saying. smiles...

Good Morning lecanis! what in the world are you doing up so early? I took a self defense for womens class in college to satisfy a PE credit. I never realized, how simple and easy it is to defend your self in the event of an attack. For one thing most attackers are not looking for an out right defense, so you have that 3 seconds to respond using the element of surprise. Its crazy in this day and age to be of passive thinking that words will change your outcome. Now most certainly there are times that the best thing to do is be quiet and still, but darling you can bet your cute behind that I am coming back with the intent to hurt if I have the chance. I do not "believe" in violence. I do believe in protecting what is mine and my person! (btw you ever get my email?)

The only two people that I know of that would just sand there and let the other guy hit them are Gandhi and Christ. Since I am not a Hindu or Christian, I would try and maybe succeed in killing whomever attacked me.My mom told me if anyone hit me I had the right to kill them and that is how I live my life. And it must be written all over me because no one bothers me.

Dear lecanis, Non-violence is not applicable to the way of things stand now a day. It is better to defend yourself by attacking others. Few days back one girl was harassed by few boys on the street. Nobody went to protect the girl from the harrassment of the boys. I, who went to protect the girl. Immediately lot of people came forward to help me for protecting the girl and all of them joined together gave a good thrash to all the boys. From that day I understood if you go forward to help others, others will follow you.

Hi! As for the question" what would I do if someone attacked me". The most important is to try my best to protect myself. If you understand his purpose, you had better avoid hurting you because of robbing or something like that. If he wants to get money or something like that, or he will kill you. I think you'd better give him. He can't kill a person just because of a little money. So how to protect oneself from the danger is better than losing a little money.