Are we really the First?
By Riptide
@Riptide (2758)
United States
November 25, 2007 2:42pm CST
This might be a little long and mindbending,so bear with me.
When I get bored I start thinking about all kinds of things,so this is my thought. What makes us so sure that humanity only developed within the last 50,000 years? How much do we really know?Follow this train of thought.According to scientists the earth is a few billion years old,but modern man has only existed for a few thousand years. I find that kind of hard to believe.
Imagine the age of the earth as a road a mile long,that would mean that we didn't pop up until the last inch of that one mile long road and before that there were no humans. I find that hard to swallow.
What if there were civilizations millions of years ago, as advanced as we are. A worldwide disaster could have wiped them out and it took millions of years again for the human race to develop.
Imagine if something drastic was to happen tomorrow,like a huge asteroid or something in that area,that would wipe out all life on earth. Wouldn't it take millions of years for life to develop again and by then everything would be buried so deep,that nothing would be found and that future civilization would also think that the human race is only a few thousand years old?
Another scenario would be,the same disaster but this time a handful of people survive. Normal people like you and me,not scientists and doctors and such. We would have to start from scratch,we would know what computers and planes and such are,but we wouldn't know how to build them and we wouldn't know how to cure diseases and such. We would be able though to draw pictures and write descriptions for future generations,to give them a heads up to figure it out.
That would eplain some of the strange findings,like the ancient models that look like planes and such.
Now you probably think that we should have found at least something,right?
Well,it appears they have,but since those findings are so rare and unusual,they get dismissed by science as flukes.
Take following for example:
Humans were not even around 65 million years ago, never mind people who could work metal. So then how does science explain semi-ovoid metallic tubes dug out of 65-million-year-old Cretaceous chalk in France? In 1885, a block of coal was broken open to find a metal cube obviously worked by intelligent hands. In 1912, employees at an electric plant broke apart a large chunk of coal out of which fell an iron pot! A nail was found embedded in a sandstone block from the Mesozoic Era.
http://paranormal.about.com/od/ancientanomalies/ig/Most-Puzzling-Ancient-Artifact/Out-of-Place-Metal-Objects.htm
Here is another interesting site to that subject:
http://www.rae.org/ch05tud.html
I think this theory deserves some pondering and thought. What do you think about this?
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
25 Nov 07
I can't help thinking that everything we know, will one day be shattered completely and we have to understand the sciences all over again. When you think of it,it really wasn't all that long ago, that someone announced boldly that they thought the creation of the universe was started around 4004 BC, which of course we can laugh at now. Tecnically speaking what we supposedly know is that the beginnings of the hominid species didn't begin until roughly 3 million years ago, with Australopithicus..remember the big bruhaha over "Lucy"? The beginnings of so called civilization didn't begin until about 10,000 years ago, when "modern" man became more agricultural rather than the old tradition of hunter and gatherer. But I too, question a lot of things, mainly because I do happen to be a believer in the idea of the existence of Atlantis or at least some form of advanced civilization that predates what is actually known. Atlantis was supposedly an advanced civilization but then destroyed around 10,000 with the upheaval of the melting of the last Ice Age--I also can't help thinking that maybe mankind developed separately..maybe there was one species of mankind that branched out from an earlier form of primates that developed quicker and if they did develop on Atlantis were isolated from the rest of mankind that developed in Africa. Of course, maybe some findings of remnants of advanced technology that have been found could suggest we had "visitors" from an advanced civilization as well...who knows? It's like the more we know, the less we know
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@Riptide (2758)
• United States
26 Nov 07
I believe Atlantis existed as well and I believe that a lot of knowledge got lost when it got destroyed. Who knows where we would be today,if it wasn't?
I saw a show where they traced back all of human kind to this one tribe in Africa. It was very interesting,but where did they come from? Were they maybe survivors from a previous race?It's possible I think.
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@Riptide (2758)
• United States
26 Nov 07
I think he was right about Atlantis rising and I think it happened,the scientists are just to blind to see it for what it is. The road of Bimini many believe is Atlantis and it was discovered around the time when Edgar Cayce said Atlantis would be.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
26 Nov 07
What are your feelings about Edgar Cayce the psychic? He was one of the psychics able to give "readings" and describe Atlantis, and he also is the one that mentioned about the Hall Records which is in the Atlantean language and is supposedly located in some chamber under the Sphinx
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
26 Nov 07
You are completely correct that given the age of the earth and how really old it is compared to how young is modern man, civilization as we know it could have risen and fallen many times.
Who is to say that climate change, nuclear wars, asteroid collisions, and / or pandemics haven't at various times in the past already wiped out civilation? Only to have to start over?
Not me! At the earth being a few billion years old and modern man only a few tens of thousands, we may only be the latest iteration of an indeterminate cycle.
Kind of a neat idea. Do you suppose we'll mess up again?
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@wahptb (188)
• Canada
26 Nov 07
I remember seeing a tv show about the Mayans. Apparently searchers had found a mayan calendar that was more precise than our modern day calendar. It also showed 10 or 12 different era's.(I can't remember details this was a couple of years back) We are supposed to be in the second era which was coming to an end in 2013 or close to that. Sorry the calendar is more precise than my memory. Who knows maybe this was our second try and maybe there's still a bunch to come. Maybe in 3 million years. Someone will find something deep in a mountain. Maybe it'll be your Ipod! and maybe the guy will have 4 arms.
@KrazyKlingon (5005)
• United States
25 Nov 07
That is something to ponder. As for traces of intelligent life from millions of years ago, pipings or tunnerls (I forgot which) was discovered in China that was apparently some kind of plumbing system from 65 million years ago. Scientists mentioned that it was apparently visitors from a distant world.
I would also have to wonder despite the traces of objects obviously shaped/built by intelligent beings. That leads to several different possibilities. Perhaps man was around a lot longer than the oldest traces have found, & they probably didn't keep history, or if they did, that just vanished with time. One reason for not keeping history being that they were too busy trying to dodge dinosaurs. It is also a possibility that no traces exist because the remains of those 'people' have completely decomposed leaving no traces.
Many theories have been speculated & inviestigated as to what caused the dinosaurs to die off & go extint, such as volcanic eruptions spewing so much dust that it caused an iceage in which plants could not survive, & therefore left the dinosaurs with nothing to eat, as well as volcanic glass particles that ended up in the lungs of these creatures. There is also that possibility of a large meteor or asteroid that disrupted the eco-system. I am sure that this has happened several times during the billions of years Earth existed.
There is also that possibility that - even if it is far-fetched - intelligent life had existed long enough & intelligently enough that when a disaster struck, they actually had the capability to gather everyone & head out into the stars to a new home world, or to search for a new home world. Hmmmm ... I am now also pondering the possibility that the first humans on Earth may have actually faced that out in the distant stars & made their home on this third rock from a bright yellow star & named the world Earth ... That may be an explanation why apes still co-exist with humans & didn't go extinct from evolution like all or most of the other species did as time went on.
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@Riptide (2758)
• United States
26 Nov 07
Well apparently we didn't come from apes directly,but apes and humans have the same ancestor.We just developed one way and they another. That may be,but wouldn't that proof that it most likely happened before?
The artifacts are there,even though they are few. It could very well be that they were advanced enough to know about space travel.
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@KrazyKlingon (5005)
• United States
26 Nov 07
That is true about the apes. The ape we evolved from probably did go extinct, but along with man, gorillas, chimps, monkeys, & others came from that particular ape as well. However, it seems that man has taken a very different path in the evolution process.
It has been speculated that man may have been genetically engineered. I got to add that if we were genetically engineered, we may have received visitors from those engineers, & it advertently created all these different religions.
@cdparazo (5765)
• Philippines
26 Nov 07
I don't really believe that we are the first. I am sure that there are civilizations way before us because as said, earth existed millions of years ago. We are just a 'moment' in this eternity. We have very limited knowledge about those pyramids and even the Jurasic ages, how much more, millions of years ago. We may be the millionth civilization that lived on this planet for all we know. One thing for sure though, that life already existed millions of years ago even in some other planets. What intelligence that from life had, is something that we still have to find out. We are just part in the great cycle of things - and we are just a cycle and would someday perish or be replaced.
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
26 Nov 07
I agree with you! My belief is that men from other worlds have, and do visit earth at intervals of a few thousand years. I believe our earth has been colonised, and recolonised, several times in ancient history. These men (Gods from outer Space) are, and have been, looking after us for Millions of years. Sometimes they stay for long periods of time to see us through a dangerous period. Other times, they've checked us out and found us in good shape, and left in their space ships, again quite soon. This explains many things that you included in your post. I've come to these conclusions after many years of studying existing materials and information.
@wahptb (188)
• Canada
25 Nov 07
Nice, I was thinking of posting a similar message a couple of days ago but ran out of time. I agree totally. I like to believe that our biggest clue might be the lost city of Atlantis. Thanks for the links, I had never heard of that, I am going to check them out right now. I don't have much to add your post depicts my sentiments exactly.
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