POLL - how many people believe we should have a NO SPANKING LAW

Canada
November 29, 2007 12:28pm CST
how many parents and non parents ( please indicate wether you are one or not) Believe this no spanking law should be enforced I would like to take a poll, I know this is a big issue right now. You can also post why you believe there should or shouldnt be a law forbidding spanking. thanks
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20 responses
@mac1946 (1602)
• Calgary, Alberta
29 Nov 07
sorry lillake,it is because of people like you that the governments think they can rule our lives and tell use what is right or wrong. I was brought up in the age where if I did wrong,I got spanked,if I got the strap at school I got a spanking at home as well because I did wrong at school. I am now 61 years of age,I own my own locksmithing business which is closly monattered by the police,and while I have never been married,I have spent over 35 years as a babysitter. I have with the permission of the parents used spankings when needed and have never had any problem children from it,and many of my older charges have actually thanked me for their good attitudes. I for one,beleive the governments should look after the infastructure of the counties and leave the upbrining to the parents and also to quit making stupid laws just to prove they are actually working. I do not beleive in abuse,but a good spanking can be very usfull.
• United States
29 Nov 07
Well said, Mac.
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@lillake (1635)
• United States
29 Nov 07
Mac I was brought up the same way that you were. Spanked in school, spanked at home. With a paddle, a belt, or a hand. Just because it happened doesn't make it OK. All I have to do is look at the world around me to see how those who grew up being spanked turned out. Read the news, look at how those in power act, watch how little the big corporatiosn treat their lowest workers. All I see is a reflection of the dynamic between parent and child. When we teach our young children to behave as we want or we will hit them they grow up to reflect that treatment upon others. I hate to see laws being made that control families, but if it the only way to make parents stop and think about how they are responding to their children then so be it.
@mac1946 (1602)
• Calgary, Alberta
29 Nov 07
very well lillake,if as you state,you were brought up the same as I was,with spankings,are you saying you have been in trouble with the law a whole lot because of it?or did you realize that breaking the rules hurt? do you hate your parents? I have found that the ones you are speaking of that are the terror of the streets and disrespectfull of their peers,are those that did not recieve disiplinary spanking. there are rights and wrongs to every situation,and just as many ways to deal with them,you don't beleive in spanking,thats your way and I salute you for it,but making a law,is stupid,no matter how you look at it,there are to many of our rights stolen by the idiots in governments now.
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@Sillychick (3282)
• United States
29 Nov 07
I am a parent and, no there should absolutely be no law against spanking. Some people equate spanking with beating, which is the real problem. This is a scary thought. Take away a parent's right to discipline their child, and the problems we have today will seem like child's play. It's not just that spanking can be an effective form of discipline. It's also that taking away that option makes parents helpless when all else fails. Children would use it against their parents. Even now I hear stories about children calling the police on their parents claiming abuse and getting their parents arrested. This law would make it too easy for children to get away with false accusations. Even if it's not used often, spanking should always be an option.
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• Canada
29 Nov 07
i agree i believe its the parents decision but if there are noticeable marks people shoulf call the childs aid on them just becasue alot of kids do get beaten unfortunately
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@lillake (1635)
• United States
29 Nov 07
But a child who was raised right wouldn't think of being that way. Children mimic what they see, and if they see their parents behaving that way then they will as well. Taking away spanking and teach people how to actually treat other humans beings, even those smaller than them, with a little more respect and in a few generations things will look better. We only have to look towards the countries that already have strong anti-spaking laws in place. Sweden (1979), Finland (1983), Norway (1987), Austria (1989), Cyprus (1994), Denmark (1997), Latvia (1998), Croatia (1999), Bulgaria (2000), Germany (2000), Iceland (2003), Romania (2004), Ukraine (2004) Hungary (2005), and Greece (2007) all have passed laws that protect children from physical punishment by spanking.
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• United States
29 Nov 07
Those anti-spanking laws are probably in public, right? Who is going to enforce them behind closed doors at home? Are there cops inside every home with children to make sure that they aren't spanked?
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• United States
29 Nov 07
I'm not a parent to human children and never will be. But I do believe that each individual parent has the right to discipline their child however they see fit. Not all children will respond to time outs, taking toys away or sitting in a corner. For some kids, spankings are the only thing that works. The government has no right to tell any parent how to raise their kid or properly discipline their kid. What's next? The government telling us how many kids we can or can't have? When does the control stop?
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@lillake (1635)
• United States
29 Nov 07
Time outs, taking toys away or sitting in a corner are only 3 out of a billion ways to help children learn the difference between right and wrong. Because some parents can't be bothered to learn more than a couple different tricks doesn't mean that spanking is the best way. It only means that the parents were too lazy to find new ways to help their children in an appropriate way.
• United States
29 Nov 07
"too lazy" I'm not a parent but I take offense with that. Maybe you're just too sissified because you don't spank? Ever think of it that way?
• United States
30 Nov 07
I am a mom. I think the government is going a little too far. Spanking is fine. Beating is a whole other story. I think the decision to spank or not to spank needs to be left up to the parents. Unless the government is going to do all of the raising of all the children. Including, feeding, clothing, nurturing, paying for college, etc. then they need to let the parents be in control of taking ccare of their own children. Sure there are soe people who abuse their children but, for the most part most parents are loving and caring.
@Ravenladyj (22992)
• United States
30 Nov 07
I totally DISAGREE with a No Spanking Law! I spanked my kids when they were younger, I also bit my son and tapped him in the mouth (still do on occasion) and there was no harm done, they know I mean business and they dont cross me etc.....Not to mention the fact since when is it ok for the government to dictate to me how I am to raise my children when it comes to discipline? Next is it going to be that we arnet allowed to ground our kids either or take away phone/tv/video game etc time or maybe not even correct them at all?
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• China
30 Nov 07
when i was a kid, i m very arch. but my parents never spank me not because i m a girl . they never beat my brother . but if we disobey their rule, they will criticize us hashly and violently . they let me know between right and wrong . we let kid know what is discipline, but dont mean to beat them . if i become a parent , i wont spank my dear kid .
@eden_shii (508)
• Australia
30 Nov 07
It depends on the 'degree' of spanking...i say 'YES' it should be imposed only if that is tantamount to 'beating' or 'torture' but i would say 'NO' it shall be imposed if the degree is just minimal...i mean, the kind of 'good' spanking just enough to let the child learn...i came from a country which doesn't have the anti-spanking law...most parents can spank their kids...and true, it has good results since their kids grew up to be a good person...but, in some cases there are parents who beat their kids to the extent that they almost kill them...these degree of 'spanking' as they called it should be stopped...
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@candytang (341)
• China
30 Nov 07
I think once the parents spank their children,it should be they feel angry with their children and want to do something to show what their done was wrong ,but they have no other good idea or good way to do,they spank their children. Spanking children is not so bad I think.You know spank is not the same as beat,and the harm on their is also lillte.I don't think so there should have a spanking law.
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@coffeebreak (17824)
• United States
30 Nov 07
4 of us kids and we got spanked for things. All four of us, no matter who did it. Pants down and the belt off dad's pants. Do I remember anything that we/I did to get spanked? Not a thing, never did. I remember the pain and crying and I grew up not liking my dad, being scared of him and not really wanting to be with him because of the spankings. He'd say he loved me, but then would hurt me so badly - I didn't understand that. So are spankings a good thing? No. I think it is like me - I remember the pain and the hurt and being afraid of dad and not even liking him much, but it did nothing in the way of teaching or dicipline. I never quite knew what I did and when I did know, it was such a little thing, why such huge pain for a simple little thing? Pain inflicts hate and fear. How does that help anything? Take away a privledge or fun activity or something that means something to the kid - that way instead of sitting htere crying and in pain, they'll sit there knowing that "I could be playing iwth my Xbox right now, if I hadn't done that".
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• United States
29 Nov 07
I believe that spanking as long as it is controlled and doesnt leave marks is ok. Sometimes it is a reasonable thing to do. Now I have two children and I try not to spank them if I dont have to. I believe if the parent (if responsible)should be able to make their own decision if they want to or not.
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• United States
29 Nov 07
I beleive that spanking as long as it is controlled and doesnt leave marks is ok. Some times it is a resonable thing to do. Now I have two children and I try not to spank them if I dont have to. I beleive if the parent (if responsible) should be able to make their own decison if they want to or not.
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@tinybop (114)
• United States
29 Nov 07
I am a parent and I believe we should have the right to punish our kids as we see fit as long as we are not abusing them, a spank on the but is not abusive and in some cases is the only way to teach your kid they are doing wrong.
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@tlb0822 (1414)
• United States
29 Nov 07
I'm only 20 yrs old but i can defiantly remember getting a good spanking from my parents. I think that spanking is alright to a certain extent. There should not be a law preventing parents from correcting their children. Spanking should be severe a swat on the bum should not be considered abuse. I can see if a parent does a beating or causes real harm to the child, then something should be done. But a simple pat on the bum should not be outlawed.
@ajay043 (779)
• India
29 Nov 07
i am a non parent and according to me no spanking law should not be enforced because kids sometimes dont learn unless they are punished and if they are punished they will listen to their parents and will be be a little scared of his parents which a kid should be,and even the parents has got equal right to spank their kids as thy r the ones who give them birth
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• United States
29 Nov 07
I am the mother of 2 grown sons. I spanked their bottoms many a times. I believe in spanking. Not beating but a good old fashion swat or to the the behind. My sons are now grown and one is in the military getting ready to go to Iraq for his second tour and the other is a full-time firefighter. I don't seem to have hurt them with the spankings but to this day they both respect and love me very much. If you don't care enough about your children to discipline them then you deserve what you get. We have an entire generation of young adults who grew up with their parents being told it was wrong to spank a child. It is ridiculous to give time outs or stand in corners as they don't care. Now we have a generation of young adults who have no respect for the laws or other people. I guess God was right when he said "spare the rod, spoil the child.
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@lillake (1635)
• United States
29 Nov 07
I like the no spanking law. There are a million and one ways to discipline and guide a child without resorting to hitting them. Parents who do so are generally too lazy to be bothered actually parenting so they just hit and hit until their child stops. If parents had to actually learn how to help their children instead of just hitting them the world would b a much better place. Spanking does not equal disciple, just as not spanking does not equal letting them run wild. From my experience the worst kids, the ones who hit others and talk back and have no respect are the ones who gt spanked at hme. They're never shown what respect really is so they have no clue how to give it to others. Instead they just mimic what their parents have taught them - do as I say or I hit you. Does Spanking Equal Discipline? http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/147932/does_spanking_equal_discipline.html Using Gentle Discipline with Your Child http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/133060/using_gentle_discipline_with_your_child.html Proposed Bill to Ban Spanking Supported by Many Proposed Bill to Ban Spanking Supported by Many
@lillake (1635)
• United States
29 Nov 07
Sorry, that one one should be http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/130168/proposed_bill_to_ban_spanking_supported.html
• United States
29 Nov 07
"generally too lazy to be bothered actually parenting" I disagree. Some children do not care that a toy is taken away for instance. Most children have a room full of toys so taking away one toy is not going to matter. They'll just get another. Some children don't sit in time outs. Some children don't care. Spanking reinforces that parents are in charge and the little monsters have to mind.
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29 Nov 07
Do you have children lillake?
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@imadriscoll (2235)
• United States
29 Nov 07
I believe that all kids need boundaries and they need consistancy and they need to know exactly what will happen if they disobey their parents. When I was a child I knew without a doubt that if I lied that I was going to get spanked with the back side of a hair brush. My parents didn't have to come up with a creative punishment, they didn't reason with me, and they never beat me. I greatly value the lesson learned from them. Now, as a parent, my children are well aware of the rules. My husband and I love our children greatly and we want the very best for them. That means disclipline, it means knowing the difference between when they are acting out of rebellion or ignorance ... it also means an occasional spanking. A swat is quick and it is definate. You cannot allow the government access to how families disclipline their children... pretty soon they will make other decisions for the family - what food we eat, how many kids we can or cannot have, income guidelines for families of certain sizes, and the spiral will go down and down.
@lillake (1635)
• United States
29 Nov 07
But what lesson did you learn? Were you taught that ling can hurt others? Were you taught that lying can make others not trust you? Were you taught the dangerous things that can happen from lying? No, you weren't respected enough to be reasoned with and weren't considered smart enough to understand. So they just spanked you. The only lesson is that "If you lie I'll hit you." Sorry, I want my kids to understand WHY lying is wrong, not just fear being hit if they di it. Understanding why will help them far greater as adults than blind fear.
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• United States
29 Nov 07
Where in the world do you get off saying that I learned that I was stupid? My parents were constantly teaching me how valuable I was to them and as a person. It was clearly explained to me that lying was wrong and that it harmed others. It's not as if my parents tied me a bed post, whipped me and left without a word. If that's your vision of spanking then you obviously have a perception that is very different from the truth of what happened in my home as a child. It amazes me the jumps in logic that you have ... it seems to me that you would blame every bad thing that ever happened on an adult who was spanked as a child. Corporations are greedy and don't pay the working man what he deserves - the problem is obvious, the CEO was spanked as a child. We're at war with Iraq and many people are dying - the problem is obvious, George Bush was spanked as a child. The holocaust? - obvious problem, Hitler was spanked as a child. They were all taught as children that they are not deserving respect and they're stupid so now they do horrible things to others. Give me a break.
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@aries_0325 (3062)
• Philippines
13 Jan 08
You should include me on that list. I do not believe parents should spank their children, and instead despite its common acceptance, spanking is a less effective strategy than timeout or removal of privileges for reducing undesired behavior in children.
@deebomb (15347)
• United States
30 Nov 07
Everyone here has addressed wether it was right or wrong to spank and if there should be a law to the effect that there should be a spaking law. well I personally believe in spanking and if done right children do not grow up to be violant. But I want to address another issue. Who is going to inforce this law. Is the government going to put naany cams in every home that has children? Child services can't keep track of the child abuse cases as it is. Social workers already have too many cases to keep up. Then there is the courts. They already get stupid. And what about those kids that take advantage of the anti abuse laws saying that Mom or Dad beat them when they didn't get what they want?
@Stiletto (4597)
29 Nov 07
Yes I support No Spanking laws although I think it's a shame in this day and age that we actually have to have laws passed to stop people hitting their children. I have a daughter who is now an adult. She has a daughter of her own who is almost two. My daughter doesn't agree with spanking either. I was a strict parent, my daughter was never in trouble, she had rules she had to follow and she turned out just fine. If the only way you can assert your authority over someone is to hit them, particularly if it's a child for goodness sakes, then that's a reflection on your own personal shortcomings. If I hit a co-worker or subordinate for not doing as I told them I would be in trouble, and rightly so. Yet it's ok to do it if it's a child? Makes no sense to me at all.