What's the worst thing you have been called because of your beliefs?

@writersedge (22579)
United States
January 15, 2008 1:40pm CST
I was just informed that because I have spirit guides and communicate with them in what I consider to be like a prayer, that I should consider that worshipping demons. Long run around to calling me a demon worshipper, which I'm NOT. My spirit guides are like angels, mine take the form of twin Native American Indians. The male and female twins are like the masculine and feminine sides of me. So what have you been called for your beliefs and why? Did you take offense? Defend yourself? Laugh? I got sprung, I'll admit it. Take care
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@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
16 Jan 08
I've been called stupid, ignorant, #######, and etc Because I believe in God (or at the very least some sort of creation) yet I also have an intimate and deep understanding of science and scientific history. I've been called fool, etc Because I respect other religions and see some points to them, in fact there are a couple of minor points I live out from time to time The minute someone starts using shaming language like this, give them a nice _|_ Or just continue on your way. You are doing what is best for you, plus reality isn't 100% certain. Anyone could be right, all of us could be wrong, physical reality could just be the end all or perhaps something none of us could even imagine is what is correct, but we have no way of completely telling since its all perspective and matters from mortal/imperfect beings. So I wish you all well with your respective paths.
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@lecanis (16664)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
16 Jan 08
Very well said, Pro!
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@writersedge (22579)
• United States
16 Jan 08
I'm sorry you've been called all those things, esp. ###########. I think we all have a combination of beliefs, just some people don't know it, haven't figured it out, etc. It's easier to just continue on my way now that I have a reputation as being able to clobber anyone who tries to physically harm me. That wasn't always the case. I think every religion has a piece of the puzzle and as the keepers of such, I , too think all should be respected. Thank you very much and take care
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
16 Jan 08
I have been called stupid because I am a Christian and I do not believe in evolution, and then there are the Tv shows that say Christians are hypocrites and yet they cowtow to the Muslims. We are supposed to be persecuted for the name of Christ and that does not just mean being tortured and killed for our beliefs, but the name will come when that will happen, yes here in the United States and then in Canada. You think you were persecuted for having spirit guides, well us Christians have a head start being persecuted.
@writersedge (22579)
• United States
16 Jan 08
The problem is that there are a few of each group that are nit wits and then everyone thinks that is a representation of the group. Every group this goes for. Evolution is a theory and as such has not been proven. The "missing link" is just that, still missing. They thought man was only a few centuries old, that theory has been disproven as have many before it. There is a movement now in the states to take the Holicost out of the Bible because it offends people, as you have said before, people who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. Surprised you answered in a Pagan discussion. Interesting. I think Pagans existed before Christians ( I could be wrong) so their persecution has been longer. Also the Christian response to Native Americans varied. Some wrote back to the Pope that the Native Americans epitomised all that the Bible said to do without them ever having read it. Of course at least one of those Priests lost his head, eventually, not by the hand of Natives, but by his own people. Others thought they were horrible and must be crushed. Small pox infested blankets were given to many for planned genocide and the documents proving this have been found. Still others thought they were OK as long as they converted to Christianity. Many times killing Native Americans was fine as long as they weren't Christian. Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, a book, is one Native American side of history. It is a book that is full of inhumanity and persecution. If you haven't read it, it will tear your heart out, it did mine. All people have been persecuted including the Jews and the Muslims. What most of us would like is for it to stop and for a dialogue amoung the groups to help with understanding and to stop it. But there are people in each group, who, unfortunately have a vested interest in keeping the hate going. I don't think you're stupid. Some Christians are hypocrites, but there are those people in every religion. Yes, I fear that if terrorists of any type (Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist, but NOT Muslim) taking over either or both of our governments could cause wide scale torture and killing that would be 100 times what happened in Nazi Germany. The Nazis killed more than Jews, people with disabilities, inferriors, Christians that wouldn't help kill or irradicate Jews including every Christian group (Catholics, Protestants, etc) and so on. When Louisiana elected a former (alledgedly) Grand Duke of the KKK, we couldn't believe it. People don't know their history. It's a Catholic state (they have Parishes and not Counties-trust me, they yell at you if you mix it up) and the KKK has hung Catholics before. So Catholics and people with last names that indicate Catholic heritage have been on the chopping block many times. My entire family was yelling at the TV set. We thought that time had come when he was elected. You have made many good points, but remember, things go not just in one direction, many times they go in many directions. Enemies of religious freedom want us to have tunnel vision and to fight among ourselves, if we all kill each other, less for them to have to do. Take care
@lecanis (16664)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
16 Jan 08
When I was a kid, the other kids called me "Satan". I'm half Native American and half Irish, and my religious path has kind of walked a line between the two cultures, though I tend to refer to myself as a Celtic Reconstructionist Pagan first. It was weird to me because I grew up with great-grandparents who taught me both Native American and Celtic pagan spirituality, but everyone else around us was Christian. I didn't know people were going to hate me for my beliefs because they were just my beliefs to me, until I opened my mouth about them and started getting ridiculed and even physically harmed. I've been called Satan, witch-girl, demon-caller, devil-worshipper, evil one... none of it really makes a difference to me. My Gods are my Gods, my path is my path, and anyone who thinks they're going to change my mind is quite mistaken.
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@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
16 Jan 08
How sad Lecan. It just reteaches (at least myself) that people really do fear what they don't understand or anything thats too different from what they want. Selfish, sad, but historically true...still true today. -_-
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@lecanis (16664)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
16 Jan 08
Very sad, yes. And it does teach that people fear what they don't understand, which is why I'm always happy when I can get even one person to understand, and why I strive to understand others who believe differently than myself, to eradicate that fear in both myself and others. :)
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@writersedge (22579)
• United States
16 Jan 08
Yes, the North tends to me more tolerant of different religions than the South. I loved that week at initiation. I wish I could be part of a Good Medicine commune, but I don't think there is one. I could be with people or hang out in the woods or even a cave! I so just like sitting in nature.
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@Darkwing (21588)
15 Jan 08
The worst I've been called so far is the Village's Best Witch. It doesn't bother me one little bit that these people are ignorant of my true beliefs. I am comfortable with them, and names won't hurt me. Besides, all will come back to them threefold. he he he Brightest Blessings!
@writersedge (22579)
• United States
15 Jan 08
I thought it was 10 fold or are you giving them a 70% percent break? Thank you for posting and nice to hear from you Darkwing.
@Darkwing (21588)
16 Jan 08
Naaaaaaa, just the law of three in my "book". :) Brightest Blessings.
@twoey68 (13651)
• United States
10 May 08
I've had ppl tell me that they thought I was more or less a heathen b/c I don't go around spouting my beliefs to everyone. Even my Mom at times has been surprised when she finds out that I actually know passages from the Bible LOL **AT PEACE WITHIN** ~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
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@writersedge (22579)
• United States
11 May 08
Actually, with many of your discussions, I think you're very religious. Thans twoey and take care.
@alamode (3073)
• United States
16 Jan 08
Don't let it get to you... the people with the most to say are the ones who know the least about their own religion... they transpose what they think onto their diety, then cite it as gospel.
@writersedge (22579)
• United States
16 Jan 08
That's a different way of looking at it, but then I can count on you to have a different way (and probably vice versa). Yes, I've noticed people can quote the Bible to justify whatever belief, even picking on people of other beliefs, but I can often site things that counter that. Take care and thanks for your thoughts on this matter.
@sid556 (31005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
wrong1
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@writersedge (22579)
• United States
16 Jan 08
Huh?
• United States
15 Jan 08
I've never been insulted because of my beliefs. The closest anyone ever came was one guy in high school asking me, "Do you worship God or the devil?" and I wasn't even pagan then, I was just reading an Anne Rice novel. It doesn't really come up as a topic a lot for me outside of pagan-friendly situations. I'm a pretty private person, too, but if someone asks I'll tell them.
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@writersedge (22579)
• United States
15 Jan 08
I'm thinking about becoming more private as I get older, like maybe even a hermit. Glad no one has insulted you for your beliefs. Hope it stays that way. As for me, there isn't much people haven't attacked of my personality. Take care