Do we really LEARN from experience?

United States
January 21, 2008 1:31pm CST
There are a number of sayings (and "wisdom") in the world that suggests we learn from our experiences, and supposedly get smarter as we progress through life. This morning, I was reading a article on a web site, about relationships and divorce. It gave some statistics about marriages: The well-known fact that over 50% of marriages (in the US) end in divorce, but also that 65% of SECOND marriages end in divorce, and almost 80% of THIRD marriages end in divorce. Contemplating those numbers gave me pause for thought. Doesn't it look like we're actually getting LESS smart, and LESS wise, as we gain experience? Of course, marriage and relationships is just ONE aspect of life. In a different area of life, people also change jobs more often as they age, not LESS often. Again, there's the suggestion that we actually grow more "clueless," rather than "wise." Naturally, many will disagree. So what do YOU think is at work, there? Is it that we become more picky, as we age-- wanting our love partner, or job, or whatever to "fit better" than we did when we were young? Or is "learning from experience" not just about HAVING experiences, but also about stopping to UNDERSTAND why the things that went wrong, went wrong?
2 people like this
10 responses
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
22 Jan 08
Hi Denmarkguy, interesting statistics - I didn't know they were that bad! You made a major comment by saying "it's also about stopping to UNDERSTAND why the things that went wrong, went wrong." There lies the key to learning and making changes. The biggest teacher is learning from experience through reflection. If people react to circumstances in their lives, it's not because of the other person but because there is something in themselves that needs to be addressed. This is the major problem in that people think their issues are created by other people - ie their spouse, or ex spouse as the common case now is. I'm betting that the pain of addressing one's own misgivings is way too much to bear and hence it's much easier to divorce. Much easier these days to stay single too. One comment above was that the best teacher is to learn from someone elses experience. That perhaps is an ideal situation but in most cases it just creates judgment. You can never walk in another person's shoes and you can't really learn a lesson by standing on the sidelines. That's the chicken's way out. But saying that it's a better option to stay in a marriage that's full of misery in order to learn life's lessons is perhaps too big of a challenge even for the staunchest conservative. We are becoming less wise, less smart and less tolerant. Re the job situation. I think it's a good thing to change jobs later in life. It's now becoming a thing of the past to stay in a job for more than 10 years. The 30 year watch from your employee is probably never heard of these days. But for the sake of challenging yourself, your creativity and to stay active in the mind it pays to have change every now and then. Loyalty to the boss can make him/her rich and you become robbed of life's experiences through occupations.
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
23 Jan 08
Conditioning - the should do mentality - it's so powerful and difficult to break away from. I too got married cause it was the thing to do, I was in my mid twenties but still had the rose colored glasses on. I knew before I married him, that I was making a mistake, but fear, embarrassment stopped me from calling it off. It lasted 18 months. Some people never take off those rose colored glasses and look outside themselves for life's gratifications. It's the wrong place to look and it's the wise ones who discover that. Walking away from the painful and the ability to do just that - walk away is a major life lesson in itself. That means learning to stand on your own two feet for a change. Knowing yourself and understanding that you are stronger than you think, that can only be a good thing. One of the most difficult experiences (for me anyway) is being in a relationship and staying in my own integrity. Relationships are full of compromise - nothing wrong with that. But when you loose yourself to the other person - what's the good in that. Not sure if there are statistics on this one, but I bet you a heap of cash that at least 80% of marriages will show that one of the partners in the marriage is not being honored to their full potential. One person feels lesser than or is treated lesser than. Getting older and having learned some of life's lessons I am a bit more brazen about my choices. It's a dog eat dog world (sadly) and if you don't stand up and get a few of the things you want, then what the heck is the use of being here. Misery is not useful. Getting older gives me a bit more courage, probably through adversity and this sense that I'm tired of not being satisfied with life. Doesn't mean I don't shake in my boots every now and then - keeps me on my toes too! Hopefully people learn from their own mistakes, sadly that's not always the case. I now use a saying: Youth is wasted on the young and wisdom is wasted on the old because some older people don't learn and don't change their lives to have fulfilling experiences; And there would be no point in being young again unless you were going to do it differently.
• United States
23 Jan 08
Thanks for your very thoughtful comment! As I was reading your thoughts, it occurred to me that perhaps the reason people "change more" (spouses, jobs, ideas, life philosophies) as they age is a reflection of nothing more than our knowing ourselves better, and feeling free to step away from things we don't like. When we're young, we're far more locked into what we "should" do, and what "everyone else" is doing-- as we age, we learn to think for ourselves. I got married in college largely because I was pressured to "conform" with what all my friends seemed to be striving for. Whereas I'll be the first to admit that the divorce rate is a bad thing, I'd also have to pause and say that I married someone I had NO BUSINESS marrying, in the first place-- there simply wasn't enough there to warrant us being together, in the long run. Which brings me to that broader issue of whether age simply makes us more capable of recognizing all sorts of mistakes we make, AND gives us more of a sense that it is OK to move away from things that are causing us pain.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
22 Jan 08
Hello friend, nice to see you after a long time. Hope you are doing great. As to your post, I would say it's YES and NO, both. The sole purpose of experiences is to learn things out of it but humans vary in intellect and level of grasping in all spheres. We grade them as wise, not so wise, clever, dumb, slow, thick. So, therein lies the problem. We perceive things differently and it has to do with this discrepancy in level of perception. Now coming to marriages, I feel, love knows no rule and you never know unless you are too calculative, wise and less emotional. Love has to do more with serotonin, adrenaline and stuffs like that which in beyond our control. So, I would eliminate this from the list. Now when you talk about jobs and frequent switch overs, I think, it has to do with the IQ and lack of perception, more than anything else. For this reason alone ppl never seem to learn from mistakes. Me personally, is kind of balanced person who would like to learn from experiences. I guess, that is the reason why I am hesitant to switch over to a new job or not being able to settle down after my breakup. "Once bitten twice shy" - this adage would proobably fit me the best. Thank you.
2 people like this
• United States
23 Jan 08
Hi Mimpi, and thanks for stopping by! I think it's often true that the answer to a situation is really "it depends." Or, as you say, "yes and no." Love is a funny thing, in the way it tends to "not make sense." I find it helpful to distinguish between "love, as a feeling," and "love, as an action." We can behave in a loving way and engage in loving acts, even if the "feeling" of love is not strong. Similarly, we can be deep in the throes of the "chemical" feeling of love, but to an outsider our behaviour may not be seen as particularly "loving."
• India
22 Jan 08
Well both yes and no. we certainly have memories to help and guide us through almost similar situations. I write ‘almost’ coz no two situations are ever similar and so our experiences are never similar too. If we evaluate each new situation on past events, then we would be the loser on experience. We have to meet fresh incidents with old experiences as a guide but definitely not the deciding factor.
2 people like this
• Canada
22 Jan 08
yes we learn lot from experience, experiences makes us think beyond, due to bad experiences we learn lot so that we can take good decision in life.
2 people like this
• India
22 Jan 08
Yes,we learn a lot from experience.There are some things that only experience can make us learn.some of the examples may be how to go about starting a business.In start you will face problems but with time you get accustomed to those kind of ups and downs. Another thing can be "walking".when we started walking we were not able to walk but with time we learned it and now we walk in almost perfect way we could. yes Life is also about stopping and just facing the reality.Marriages and relationships are not just for experience only,they are to be understood.Mistakes are a part of life and being Human we are bound to commit a mistake but making mistakes again and again makes it a blunder.So just think about it before doing anything. Nice qUestion...!!!
2 people like this
@gandatwo (602)
• Australia
21 Jan 08
Rather then use the word 'learn'from our experiences I personally think we evolve from experiences. To experience something personally, certainly will bring "you" truth of the experience.However we also then must bring into the equation Perspective.Two persons may have the same experience, however gain a completely diffrent perspective of it. Correction of Perception is the key here I feel. Very Interesting!
2 people like this
@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
21 Jan 08
I think you hit the nail on the head - learning from and simply experiencing are two different things. The sad thing is such as with the divorce rate is that after the first one people have gotten the taste of having a partner so I think tend to get into the next one 'easier' then there are things like children and single parenting, society accepting divorce more, and when all else fails "gee I've already done it once might as well do it again"... I've been there but thankful, which could explain why I've been single for 16 years, have learned from my past experiences and can say it would take a very very very special man for me to consider getting married again. I would love to but I know what was wrong in the past marriages and do not want to make those mistakes again.
1 person likes this
• United States
23 Jan 08
Faith, you show a lot of wisdom (as usual!), but you also show by your words that you have a strong sense of self. Although I intended this to be about more than just marriage/divorce, I think it's also true that many of the breakups we see occur as a result of people's dubious sense of self. Clearly, you know precisely who you are, and what matters to you. But there are a lot of people out there who have a substantial part of their sense of self tied up in "being married." So they get married in order to "be married," rather than as a consequence of having found preciselt the right person.
@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
22 Jan 08
There is also the saying 'some people never learn' lol. However, as for marriage, I've been down that road, been married 3 times and divorced from all 3. Of course hind-sight is 20/20, but to answer your question, I don't think that it involves becoming less smart, with each marriage you bring baggage, and unless you can deal with that the marriage is doomed, and keep in mind that from statistic point of few you will be re-marrying someone that has also been married before, and if there is kids involved you will also have an ex to deal with, sometimes not a pleasant experience. lol I have been with my s/o for 3 years, and we have both been married 3 times, but from all of those we have both come to learn that it is not the dress, ring, or piece of paper that makes the relationship last, and we have plenty of room in the attic for all that extra baggage we both brought into this household, lol. As for changing jobs, we all have dreams of what we want to be, sometimes when you actually get there it's not what you expected so you change jobs, again and again til you find the one that fits. When we're young, the main thing is a pay check, not necessarily where we are working. I was in my 30's when I found what I really loved doing, and I'm lucky enough to be working my dream job, for the forestry, wildland firefighter.
1 person likes this
@danzer (2723)
• Philippines
21 Jan 08
Yes of course, we learn from experience. But the best teacher is the experience of others. As you relate what you have read in an article, that will give us the idea that divorce should not be an option. Let's learn from the experiences of others!
2 people like this
• India
21 Jan 08
Learning from experience is indeed not just HAVING experiences. We have to stop and analyze for sure as to why things went wrong, try and figure out whether we gave our 100 percent to make things work, be it marriage, work, friendships, etc. If at all there is a mistake from our side and we keep facing similar kinds of hardships, then those can't be experiences.
1 person likes this
• United States
23 Jan 08
That's exactly right-- it's not just what "happens," but what we DO about it.