Upgraded to 2GB RAM and the PC is still sluggish

@ahgong (10064)
Singapore
March 13, 2008 1:46pm CST
I have upgraded my RAM to 2GB from 1GB and still my PC is running sluggish. Even when I stop the unnecessary applications from running, I can still feel the lag in the speed of the response from the few applications I am running. Using the similar configuration in the office I do not face such a problem. Common applications I use are the browsers. I must confess though that I have at least 20 or more browser tabs on at one time. But that should not be the factor in the sluggishness of the PC cos I now have 2GB. Checking with the MSTASK shows that I use just over 1 GB of memory at any one time, so disk swapping is not the problem that is causing the sluggishness. Anyone out there facing the same problem? Any gurus to teach how to boost the response time of the applications so that I an fully utilize my RAM?
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25 responses
@mirage108 (3402)
• United States
14 Mar 08
have you checked your hard disk this is where your temp files are created. now if they are corrupt or other you might need to run chkdsk or other disk utilities. to get your computer to speed up. defrag the HD chkdsk might be rebooted so that no processes are running
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@callarse1 (4783)
• United States
14 Apr 08
I agree, clear out all your temporary files through the Windows' "Disk Clean Up" (listed in your Accessories, then System Tools). Pablo
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
23 Jun 08
Done that... didn't help much. Thanks for the recommend though.
@zweeb82 (5653)
• Malaysia
23 Jun 08
Intermittent problems are the hardest to troubleshoot I should admit. I'm thinking - how old is your HDD? 60Gb....hmmm...let me guess...5 years? Sometimes even after reformatting, defragment & all, the problem could point to a failing HDD. And I did saw 1 guy that brought up the subject on non-original software. Sometimes when they burn the CD, they could miss out a few files due to faulty ODD or lagging system performance. Hmm...so many reasons....how old is yor HDD again as you've never mentioned
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
26 Jun 08
it is about there, 5 years. Hmm... monitoring the pricing of HDD to see which is a good buy. Still undecided between a SATA or a IDE.
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
26 Jun 08
Hmm... I will try that out. I know there is SATA I and SATA II. What is the difference between the two?
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@zweeb82 (5653)
• Malaysia
26 Jun 08
If your board supports a SATA, by all means get a SATA as it's definitely faster than the IDE ones & they are in fact much cheaper. Smaller cables, less messy & faster
@eXxodus (204)
• United States
25 Jun 08
It's possible that your RAM's performance is being bottlenecked by another slower piece of hardware. This is usually a processor. Other specific details can be attributed to the speed of your memory, the latency timings (don't ask me to explain those, I don't know much about it), and other things.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
26 Jun 08
With a CPU that runs at 3.2Ghz, I do not think the hardware is the one conflicting or bottlenecking the RAM. Are there benchmark test programs I can use to test this?
@mkh2cb (18)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Also, a cpu of 3.0z might be good depending on the processor. Cuz a cpu of 3.0 for a pentium is different then a 3.0 for a C-duel. so it depend really on what u mean
• Philippines
14 Mar 08
Well, you have a great RAM for your machine. I assumed your machine would run faster. However, it seems that 2 GB RAM is still not enough. I think you have spywares unintentionally installed in your computer. Spywares do really slow down the speed performance of the computer, so you need to check out for this. Be sure your antivirus is up-to-date. I prefer to use Eset Nod32 because it does its job pretty well especially in detecting viruses, spywares, and other malware. On the other hand, if you are using Norton as your antivirus, then probably it would also contribute to the sluggishness of your machine. The reason why is because it uses a lot of memory. I hope your machine will get better soon. Have a great day! :-)
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
23 Jun 08
Hmm... I am using Norton as my antivirus. Eset Nod32 is a antivirus as well? The version of antivirus I am having is quite old. I am thinking, maybe I will upgrade the version is see how it goes. I will have to look around for another AV if that is the case. Sometimes the lag is really horrible. Thanks for the recommend. Will try it out tonite.
14 Mar 08
thanks
• Maldives
29 Jun 08
RAM is not the only limiting factor of performance. There are many other factors. If the CPU usage is at 100%. The system will be very slow. You can check it on taskmanager. If it is so, terminate the programs which uses greater. (eg. 95% or even 100%). Use a good antivirus program. There is one more way. If you are using sata harddisks, use two hards instead of one. Make sure it shows total disk space of two hards. (two 40gb hards should show approximately 80 GB). When you two hards, every file will be splitted to two portions and stored on both hards. Both hards will work with same speed for every operation. This improves speed.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
30 Jun 08
Problem is this, when I open the task manager, most of the CPU usage is at system idle. So I do not know which on is the one that is causing the sluggishness. Hmm... using two harddisk instead of one. That is one good suggestion. I will consider doing that when I do my upgrades for my HDD next. Are you suggesting I RAID the disks?
• Maldives
30 Jun 08
Thanks for considering my suggession. If the greater share of CPU usage is used by system idle process. Then there is no problem with the CPU usage. I suggested to use RAID 0 RAID 1 will improve the reliablity. RAID 0 will improve the performance because in RAID 0 the data is broken down into blocks and each block is written to a separate disk drive. So use RAID 0 to improve performance
@ArchTech (45)
• Philippines
29 Jun 08
Well 2GB must your PC will run fine, in your situation maybe you have lots of background processes which could slow don your PC, probably you are using Firefox which could eat lots of resources when you use it for a long time especially when you open more than 10 tabs (even me it slow down my system when I reach 10), Viruses, Spywares and Malwares could slow down your PC, try to scan your system for malwares and also remove unnecessary programs you don't use very much cuz they will just bloat your system.... "I use just over 1 GB of memory at any one time" that's already huge, are you just using web browser? I understand is your using Vista with all bells & whistles...Also try to upgrade your Processor, it's responsible to speedup run & process your applications not just RAM... Try Tuneup utilities or Boostspeed, it could help you to optimize our speed, and defrag frequently at least once a month.... Hope it helps you :)
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
30 Jun 08
I am using the new LGA775 chip with a speed of 3.2GHz. It is plenty new for applications that are available today. I guess it could be the firefox that is causing the slow down. I don't really know for sure. Viruses and spywares have all been scanned and my PC is clean. Using 2000, so it is not really the OS issue as this is one of the more stable OS I have used so far. Boostspeed eh? Where can I go to get a copy to try?
@fsound (756)
• Philippines
29 Jun 08
What type of applications you open? It's impossible that it's still sluggish. On my part, I used on only 1 gb of ram, and it's working fine.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
30 Jun 08
Mostly firefox. Otherwise, it would be both firefox and Photoshop at the same time. Most times, I have quite a few many tabs all running at the same time on firefox. And when surfing, sometimes, that particular tab will hang the PC for a short while before it goes back to normal. If not, the mouse will be like, sluggishly crawling all over the screen. I also do not understand why. I do not have any other background applications running. Neither am I downloading anything to cause the slow down in the processes. Sigh... Rgds, Benjamin
@Sir_bobby88 (8231)
• Singapore
25 Apr 08
well i can see that you are still using a very old computer prehaps since you are still using windows 2000 , i believe your processor speed should be 750 Mhz - 1Ghz that why it is slow .
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
23 Jun 08
Nope. Upgraded from that speed YEARS ago. Using a 3.2 GHz system now. Not top of the line, but not exactly lousy either.
@callarse1 (4783)
• United States
14 Apr 08
I would suggest customizing your Windows 2000. For example, I would suggest installing Spy-Bot Search And Destroy: Search for spyware, immunize your system, go to the Start Up section and see what's loading (is it really neccessary, is it spyware?, etc). Several programs start up that aren't neccessary like QuickTime, Open Office, etc. You can turn those off. Second I would suggest AVG Anti-Virus, and also their Anti-Spyware. Scan your system with them to see what's hiding. If you have Norton or McAfee for your virus scanner those are memory hogs. I would suggest turnning off all the fancy features, go to your settings to turn off all the fancy features in Windows. You can download Fresh Device's software to custom Windows. Here is my website: http://www.angelfire.com/amiga2/roxetteremakes I list many of the softwares on my Favorite Website links. Pablo
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
23 Jun 08
Thanks for the recommend callarse1. Will try out the suggestions you recommended on your site. Thanks again.
@ferdzNK (3211)
• Philippines
25 Apr 08
Aha! I found one. I thought I was the only one using Win2000 in myLot planet:) Not exactly my main though, I boot XP and if I suspect something is wrong or I need a simple setup to do long memory intensive process then I'll boot Win2000. How is your rig now? they've thrown a lot of good stuff back there. Well if it doesn't, check your autoruns, you probably have one or two there that that you don't need. Check this article http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx This will list all the programs called at bootup, uncheck first those you suspect, reboot and if its the culprit then remove it, if not recheck and look for another.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
26 Jun 08
Ok... noted. Will be looking at it this evening. Thanks for the recommend ferdzNK.
• India
23 Jun 08
I will suggest you to format your system and install OS once again then everything will be all right. I also have faced this kind of problems many time then i tried with lots of such things like defragment,stopping application ,upgrading RAM but no solution at the end. so finally i formatd my harddisk and installed os once again then evrything became normal and fast as well.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
26 Jun 08
That is what I am trying to avoid. Took a heck of a long time to set up the current config at home. It would be very time consuming to reinstall everything again from scratch. That would be a last resort if all else fail. Other than the lag, which I have to tolerate during surfing of the net, the PC is still working good. Just do not understand why it is so laggy even when the RAM and hardware are all up to date
• Malaysia
21 Jun 08
Well it doesn't to change to Xp isn't it? Who knows you might even see some slight or big improvements in performance. Well PC hardware also plays a part in the whole process. Just changing the RAM capacity isn't just viable. Good Luck
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
25 Jun 08
As mentioned earlier, I did a upgrade gradually on the hardware. Now the last thing I have yet to upgrade is the OS. And I am wondering if it would be worth my while to do it. Heh heh heh... after spending so much time setting up my current config, I am reluctant to have to start all over again with a new OS. So... you know what I mean...
• India
20 Jun 08
Upgrade the Processor as well as the Ram to get the full potential from your Computer. You have to Increase the memory as well as performer to get the best from your machine.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
25 Jun 08
I did, I did. When I first upgraded the CPU, I already felt the difference in the speed when it got booted up. Then it starts to feel a little slow, so I upgraded the graphics card. And it was good for a while. Then I upgraded the RAM. And I still feel that lag. I am wondering if it is the OS that is not able to handle the additional RAM efficiently.
@mkh2cb (18)
• United States
29 Jun 08
OK I am sad to say, that ram is one of the factors that can either increase pc speed or just play no role in it. Most of the time, the major deciding factor of computer issues is an old outaded motherboard, with an old processor. Also thew type of operating system/service pack u have installed can also affect a pc. furthermore, if a hardware is not being read properly in device manager it can slow down a pc. Additionally, it can finally be a spyware/advare/virus. If that is the case, then go to the processor tab under the taskmgr and see what is hogging ur cpu. At computer world, we are starting a community to help you fix this type of issue. http://mkhcb.darkbb.com Good luck with your issue. if you provided pc maker, OS version, service pack and other pc specs on the help section of my forum, I will see how i can assist you further
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
30 Jun 08
Thanks for the advise! I will definitely be taking a look at your site. Will provide the details there when I get home. All the details are in my drawer. Hope I can find the issue. Thanks again for the offer to help! Appreciate it!
@rohit0471 (195)
• India
14 Mar 08
dude, why dont u let us know the configuration of your PC? which processor do you use? what are the other applications installed on your PC?
• Singapore
14 Mar 08
Geez Ahgong, 20 tabs is way too excessive. Then again, I am on 200+MB only so I dare not to be as "adventurous" as you. You are on Win XP? If Vista, then lagi best. Serve you right. Maybe your video card memory is important too - depending on your applications. And your processor speed? Your computer is only as fast as the slowest component.
@chunter (1759)
• Singapore
14 Mar 08
Capacity of the RAM used to mean alot in the past...However in recent years, its not just about the capacity but also the speed.....DDR2-800 will perform slightly faster than DDR2-667 while DDR2-533 will be the minimum performing speed... Sluggishness depends on a lot of factors - the applications you are using (and in this case the browser you are using), the browser cache, the system's overall cache (and free hard disk space you have), your processor speed etc... If I were to advise, 1) Do an overall scan for virus and spyware to ensure these are not present in your PC 2) Delete your browser cache and if you can define the size for that in your browser option, put a significant large number in it...If you are using Firefox, check if its the latest version....Check if there's any plugins that can improve Firefox performance 3) Defrag your hard disk And if all else fail, you may want to consider overclocking your system...You don't have to overclock to the limit...even a slight overclock may help boost your system's performance....You can do so in the BIOS
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
28 Mar 08
Overclock ah... hmm... I will go back and take a look to see if it will help. I am wondering if switching to win XP may help or not? Cos the sluggishness come on and off. It is really frustrating to have to turn off my firefox when I want to render or fix some of the photos I have taken on Photoshop.
@Baltek (261)
• Canada
13 Mar 08
Viruses and spywares will slow your PC down considerably also. I used to have 1GB of memory, and it almost worked like 256mb only, I had a virus scan, nothing, changed my virus protection, and I found the nasty little thing that was slowing my PC down.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
28 Mar 08
Hi Baltek, what was it you found that was slowing down your PC? Can you share with me what it was? It would be really useful as a starting point for me to troubleshoot mine. I also have antivirus installed and nothing has been found. I also have all the various spyware tools to scan my PC with also yields nothing (thank god for that!) So, I do not think virus and spywares are the crux of the problem. Kindly advise.
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@vicky30 (4766)
• India
14 Mar 08
Whats the speed of your processor or cpu.have you removed temp files from the system?have you defragmented your hard disk?try these things out and see if your pc runs faster.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
23 Jun 08
Done all that already. Using a 3.2 GHz CPU. That is why I feel odd when the PC still lags at time. Sigh...
@edstewar (35)
• Philippines
15 Mar 08
sometimes your internet connection will be a factor for your problem. But i think the problem is the balancing of your ram and your harddisk. You got a very high 2gb ram but what is the capacity of your harddisk? make sure it also that you have a good capacity of your hard disk.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
23 Jun 08
I have a 60 GB hard disk. What capacity would you recommend for a 2GB RAM?