Does it bother you when people have bad grammar?

United States
March 31, 2008 9:16pm CST
I'm a pretty easygoing kind of guy online, and it generally doesn't bother me, but I know that some people can't stand chatspeak and other forms of poor grammar. Personally, the only things that bug me are When People Type Like This and sentences like "What's your favorite thing to do on the weekends?", which make me inwardly cringe as a result of training in proper English. How about you? Do certain grammar mistakes bother you more than others? Do you not care at all?
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@ratyz5 (7808)
• Philippines
1 Apr 08
Sometimes, I just smile and try to understand what the post really tried to imply but, there are also times when it just gets too much to handle. I know I too can make mistakes like those in grammar so I always try to avoid thinking bad. Maybe they just got into their feelings when they were typing, they thought that whatever they fluidly had in mind was also smoothly typed down on their posts.
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@ratyz5 (7808)
• Philippines
1 Apr 08
It seems that being able to edit posts would have great effect on how much a member could earn. Posting more content does imply more credit. That's why they only grant those who have already posted five hundred times the privilege of being able to copy and paste in any posts they make. But, it is rather convenient if there was a feature like editing posts, then again, it depends on those who posted them if they would really edit their works or just reply another post with a refined version or simply stating an apology..
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• United States
1 Apr 08
There is probably a simple way to get around the prohibition for copying and pasting, though, as it's implemented with JavaScript, so they couldn't really prevent spam that way. Editing posts would probably earn us fewer cents than posting new ones, but it would also encourage people to make what they've written more comprehensive and thoughtful through revision.
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• United States
1 Apr 08
Yep. I prefer it if at least there are no errors in the post title, though. Sometimes it can be funny ("Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning?"). I wish they allowed you to edit posts on MyLot, though, not having that feature is like using a listserv from the early 90s.
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@bubblyapple (2653)
• Philippines
1 Apr 08
using the "proper english" is a requirement in formal gatherings or letters. however, on on-line discussions, i think that we should be more "forgiving". i am not a master of "proper english" but i do try my best to make sure that i follow the rules of the english grammar. english may not be our native tongue but i was brought up to think that grammatically wrong english- either spoken or written, is not accepted in any event. i guess it's really up to a person but there are just some entries that really needs to be "revised".
• Philippines
1 Apr 08
well, that's good to know....about correcting people online or in person, i guess, you have to have the right approach....especially if you are correcting someone's grammar in person.... i think i feel comfortable doing this if the person i'm correcting is someone whom i've known for years and years or a very close friend...they would understand that what i'm doing is not for them to get embarassed but for their own good.... and i think it is also in the way you correct them....
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• United States
1 Apr 08
Yep, I agree, though I don't mind as much when it's a person's second language. It takes quite a bit of work to learn to speak English, a language that is less rationally organized and spelled than many others in the world. I would feel bad correcting people online or in person, though.
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• India
3 Apr 08
I agree too
• Belgium
1 Apr 08
Well, simply put, if it's the person's first language then it's pretty unacceptable. However, if it's the person's second language then I'll be tolerant. There are cases where a person has, for example, dyslexia. In those cases, I'll obviously be tolerant. (Oh, by the way, I spent five minutes trying to figure out what was grammatically false with your 'weekend' example.. then I saw your post. .
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• United States
1 Apr 08
Yep... I must have subconsciously corrected it or something. I really wish we were allowed to edit here :).
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• United States
1 Apr 08
The main thing that bothers me is when people make spelling mistakes. I know that seems petty, but it just really irks me. I can forgive things like commas being out of place and run on sentences. The spelling seems to be the easiest thing to correct. That's what that little backspace button on your keyboard is for.
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• United States
1 Apr 08
Uh-oh, hope I haven't made any mistakes in my post :).
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• United States
1 Apr 08
Just realized I did. I meant that sentences like "What's your favorite thingS to do on the weekends" bother me. I never saw so many like this until I joined MyLot, they're rampant and in almost every post title.
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@cvrmom (181)
• United States
1 Apr 08
It does bother me, but less now than before. I have physical problems that make it hard for me to type and I used to type 90 wpm. Now I take shortcuts if I can. I also have almost constant migraines and I'm working through them. So if this is incorrect, I apologize.
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• United States
1 Apr 08
I don't see anything wrong there, sometimes using fewer words effectively is better than writing a lot (although on MyLot it the pay scale doesn't seem to be adjusted for this). I'm sorry to hear you've been having some health problems, I hope you get better soon.
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• United States
1 Apr 08
It depends on how bad the grammar is on whether it bothers me or not. The people that bother me are ones that misspell and have bad grammar, and just sound like they have no education. It really drives my boyfriend crazy. He isn't great at spelling, but he always has me type something for him if he's posting something online, or uses spell check to make sure that he is spelling the words correctly.
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• United States
1 Apr 08
Nice to see that he knows how to compensate for things he's not good at doing himself. I've found that sometimes you have to accept that what you want or need to get done, you can't do (like your own surgery :), and build relationships with people who have talents that you don't. That way, if you need help, there will always be somebody that can offer it.
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@pumpkinjam (8540)
• United Kingdom
1 Apr 08
I usually don't mind. There are one or two grammatical errors which really frustrate me. The worst one for me being when people say "different to" instead of "different from". If the grammar is so poor in writing/typing that it makes it hard to understand, I do have a problem with that. English grammar can be very difficult. I am English and have an A-level in English language but there are still times when I get things wrong! I don't like chatspeak. I find that annoying. Somehow, people seem to think it's easier but I really struggle to know what people are talking about. I've figured out the basics "lol", "brb", "thx", etc. but I couldn't have an entire conversation that way and "lol" is one I have always hated ever since I first encountered it!
• United Kingdom
1 Apr 08
That is very true, without actual speech, our meaning can be lost. I don't mind if people put :) or :P and that sort of thing but "lol" to me, doesn't mean anything. I don't mind if it's actually in context but I don't like it when people us it like some use the "f-word" just to fill out sentences!
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• United States
1 Apr 08
I'm a fairly ordinary person, and I have managed to learn to type at 86 words per minute, so I don't see the need to abbreviate everything when you're using a full keyboard. Lol is on a different plane altogether, now, because it helps smooth out the conversation and alleviate tensions that might come from miscommunication. Normally, emotions like LOL and :) would come through in your face or voice, but without that it can be easy for people to take a lighthearted comment the wrong way.
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@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
1 Apr 08
bad grammar, incorrect spellings, it bothers me if i see it in formal emails at work, or documents related at work. I have high expectations on people when it comes to proper english at work cause it should be a fact that since they are part of the organization, they should very well know how to communicate well, after all, we are in a call center industry. If it is online, and the guy/girl i am chatting with does not speak good english well, i understand that and does not bother me at all - it just might be that he / she was not exposed to using the language well.
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• United States
1 Apr 08
I can see how it would be very vital in a call center... you're trying to encourage trust with customers and respond appropriately to their problems. Never worked in one myself, but I have had similar jobs and it is always important when dealing with a customer remotely to be clear and succinct.
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@marababe (2503)
• Philippines
1 Apr 08
Hi thepaintguru! Most of the time, reading posts with bad grammar bothers me. Especially those I can't completely understand. Another thing that bothers me are people typing in sTiCkY CaPs. I hate it. LOL.
• United States
1 Apr 08
Usually when I can't understand what a person's saying at all, they don't know English and have used a machine translation service, which horribly garbles the text.
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1 Apr 08
Bad grammar does irk me a bit but if the meaning of the post is well put or thought out then I am fairly forgiving as the person obviously has not been taught properly. Spelling mistakes that are out of context really nark me such as "Wear are you going later?" as the person obviously over-relies on spell check to compensate for their poor grasp of english. I am very forgiving if the person has english as a second language as trying to teach my young children correct grammar is a challenge in itself as the english language seems to have so many contradictions. Text speak drives me nuts. I will use it sometimes but only on my mobile or other social sites where it is deemed acceptable and more the norm. I came to Mylot to converse as properly as possible when relying on typed messaging.
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@Kecia08 (554)
• United States
1 Apr 08
I typically don't care, as long as I can understand what the person is saying. I don't use "text-ese" as my boss used to call it, but like I said, as long as I know what the other person is trying to say, it's ok. One of my online pet peeves is people typing in all capital letters...I feel like I am being yelled at!
• United States
1 Apr 08
All caps is a pretty common complaint. I Actually Am Bothered Much More By Capitalizing Each Word, because it breaks up the flow of text and makes it near impossible to scan through quickly. I can't imagine how someone would pick up this habit, but it might be a feature of some other languages.
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@mrtimharry (1180)
1 Apr 08
Am not a big fan of chat language - kind of view it as a form of laziness. Grammer wise I have no real problems with as long as it is understandable. Grammar is hardly the easiest thing for native English speakers and I know how bad I am at German and French grammar. Linked to that is people trying type in English when it is not their native language. In 90% of cases it is impressive as again I know how much effort it takes me to write in German and for it to be understandable although it can be annoying when it is totally incomprehensible
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• United States
1 Apr 08
I completely understand that. My Spanish is okay when I speak it, but when I type it out all kinds of mistakes tend to appear :). Also, I still haven't figured out how to type accents directly in FireFox, so spelling can be difficult.
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• United States
2 Apr 08
Well I hope no one is snotty with me about my spelling or grammer because I suck at both. Im borderline ADD and slightly dexlexic so you either accept my with all my short commings or not.
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• United States
3 Apr 08
Thanks Paint...I try hard. I notice my grammer and spelling gets worse when Im tierd also. Oh and when Im really trying to get a point out fast my mind and fingers just trip all over each other. Fun.
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• United States
2 Apr 08
Seems fine to me... I too hope nobody's been giving you a hard time here :).
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• Philippines
1 Apr 08
while reading this discussion i feel speechless.. hmmm i am very poor i english grammar in terms of formal endeavor, and during thesis writing my our adviser always put a remarks about my poor grammar and bad choice of words.. but that should be corrected since it would be more embarrassing if i already finish my book yet there are still wrong grammar.. however, in any discussion, they will be no one can criticize your grammar, it's not a debate or even a formal interview, so it's ok..
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• United States
1 Apr 08
Don't worry about it, it will probably get better over time. You should try reading some bestseller books in English, they usually have good grammar and are easy enough to follow along with, because they're written for the general public. You're right, people won't criticize your grammar when they're talking to you, but some people might make a judgment about it anyway. I really don't care, unless you speak English as your first language and still can't make yourself understood :).
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• United States
1 Apr 08
My major in college is English, and I have recently received my Associates Degree in English, so I do take grammar seriously. But, I know that, I too, could also use help in grammar and spelling sometimes. I am human, and I can make mistakes in my grammar as well as any other person out there. I care about grammar, but sometimes, I can let certain things go.
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• United States
1 Apr 08
I'm sure I can probably make mistakes in my grammar better than you can, rogue14xmen13 :). Glad to see this thread's been visited by an expert!
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• United States
1 Apr 08
I don't mind genuine mistakes because I know that I make them and for some English isn't their first language. What bothers me is when it actually takes more effort to intentionally misspell a word than to just write the actual word. The problem with demanding that people speak proper English is that it isn't standard usage and the language is alive and constantly mutating.
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• United States
1 Apr 08
That's very true... we've lost some ways of shortening words in English as we continue to create new ones to serve the culture we live in. It's a very interesting process.
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• Philippines
2 Apr 08
I can forgive bad grammar if I know that English is not the native language of a person. I can also do the same with spelling mistakes. What irks me the most is tYpInG lIkE tHiS and lyk dis. It really pisses me off when people cannot make out the words as it should be written or in this case, typed.
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• United States
3 Apr 08
Often people think they're saving time by intentionally spelling things the wrong way, but I think it really does make a bad impression if it's clearly on purpose, and not a joke or an unintentional error. I can't say it makes me angry, but a little annoyed.
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@gemini_rose (16264)
1 Apr 08
When I put a discussion up, I put a capital letter in front of each word, is that poor grammar then? If it is I did not know. I was top of my class in English, and it was one of my better subjects at school, I loved it. But I am ashamed to say, that over the years I have forgotten most of it. I get cross as I do not remember simple things like where a comma is supposed to go and a sentence starts and ends and I am now useless at paragraphs. I do care, about my own mistakes it bothers me a lot that people look at it and think that I have poor grammar, I do not really judge anyone elses, if I notice anything wrong I do not get too bothered about it.
• United States
1 Apr 08
What you've written seems fine to me... I'm not an English professor or anything :). I probably forgot most of what I learned in the later years of school right after I learned it, but it's fine to put capital letters in titles as far as I know. I like that you don't get bothered by anything, it's a good way to be!
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1 Apr 08
I can't stand people that don't spell, punctuate or use grammar correctly. It's not difficult to spellcheck your posts before you submit them and that way you're showing that you at least put some thought into your discussions. As for people who use chat speak, my general rule is that if it looks like I'm going to have to decipher a post before I can reply to it, I'm not going to bother with it at all.
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• United States
1 Apr 08
In browser spell check is my favorite feature of Firefox, and has saved me many a typo. I'd recommend it to everyone out there!
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@suganrekh (264)
• India
3 Apr 08
Before it was bothering me a lot how can they speak like this but now am matured enough to look at people "LANGUAGE IS BASICALLY FOR COMMUNICATION THATS IT"
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• United States
3 Apr 08
Sure, but we have standards because they allow you to quickly and directly communicate with the largest number of people.
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